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If anything it'll be Adol hair.
SpaceDrake
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It is worth pointing out that we've got MGS5 (presumably) coming to PC, and we know NISA is planning on doing things with Steam as well; they've said so publicly.
Still, Falcom getting back into the PC market, especially overseas, would catch a lot of attention and I'll readily admit that the mere concept makes me tingly.
Except it's not exactly Falcom going back into the PC market, however. After LOH: TiTS the 3rd, then that's pretty much it for new games. Unless they decide to bring over the subpar PC version of Zero no Kiseki, but at this point I'd prefer the enhanced Vita version personally....
SpaceDrake
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Well, if the overseas market proves it can generate a substantial enough profit, one would imagine that Falcom will resume PC development; it's not like they shed all their PC-knowledgeable developers. And, heck, ultimately the Crossbell Trails games operate on the Ark engine, so if Falcom really wanted to, it would presumably not be that hard to port the content over to the PC version of the Ark engine.
(This does make Ys Seven, Celceta and presumably most/all future games more problematic, though, since the Ark engine is really at the end of its useful life-cycle. Though if Falcom does anything with PhyreEngine like they've been saying, and Celceta might be running on that, then that works with the PC too.)
I find it very hard to believe that Falcom will self-port their Vita/PSP games back on the PC at this point. That's not even remotely the way the uber-conservative company works.
IF they do OK the PC ports, they would let some other company do the porting, not themselves, which is traditionally how they roll. But seeing how the Chinese version of Zero no Kiseki turned out, I think it's best that XSEED sticks to the Vita version.
chaosblade
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I've read that Falcom didn't really provide much support to the Chinese developer. Like they just gave them the files for the PSP game and said make it work on PC, instead of providing the existing PC version of the engine that the previous games ran on. No idea how much truth there is to that, but if it is true then they should be able to work out a better PC version if they need to without much trouble.
If Trails manages to do well enough on Steam to justify localizing Zero (and beyond), it would probably be in Falcom and XSEED's best interest to bring in a developer for a quality PC port. The Vita version wouldn't be bad, especially alongside the PC version, but they're already going to have disgruntled fans who aren't going to play SC and TC because of a platform switch. Then with another platform switch there would be a potentially large number of people who might not have Vitas, so more disgruntled fans and likely reduced sales versus a PC version (which hurts twice because it's lower sales and more expensive to release). Also wouldn't help that such a release would be pretty late in the Vitas life so you're just at another dead end.
Not that I expect things to get to that point anyway. I still think XSEED will drop the series after SC because the games are just too big and their company is too small. Not enough profit involved to make up for the time spent on so few games.
But more on topic, I'm hoping this does turn out to be Falcom games. I mean, it seems like the most likely scenario since they already have a few games that would be really easy to release (Trails FC, Ys 1&2 + Oath). That's what I'm expecting right now, along with maybe one previously unreleased game alongside them. May or may not be a Falcom game.
If Trails manages to do well enough on Steam to justify localizing Zero (and beyond), it would probably be in Falcom and XSEED's best interest to bring in a developer for a quality PC port. The Vita version wouldn't be bad, especially alongside the PC version, but they're already going to have disgruntled fans who aren't going to play SC and TC because of a platform switch. Then with another platform switch there would be a potentially large number of people who might not have Vitas, so more disgruntled fans and likely reduced sales versus a PC version (which hurts twice because it's lower sales and more expensive to release). Also wouldn't help that such a release would be pretty late in the Vitas life so you're just at another dead end.
Not that I expect things to get to that point anyway. I still think XSEED will drop the series after SC because the games are just too big and their company is too small. Not enough profit involved to make up for the time spent on so few games.
But more on topic, I'm hoping this does turn out to be Falcom games. I mean, it seems like the most likely scenario since they already have a few games that would be really easy to release (Trails FC, Ys 1&2 + Oath). That's what I'm expecting right now, along with maybe one previously unreleased game alongside them. May or may not be a Falcom game.
XSEED is a west coast company. I'd expect around like 12-4PM EST or so.
The Vita Zero no Kiseki is not developed or published by Falcom.
lunchwithyuzo
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Zero no Kiseki Vita is also farmed out, albeit to a Japanese studio (Pyramid).
Id actually rebuy any of the Falcom games that I already own if XSEED brings them to Steam just to support them. I still feel like I owe them something for giving away Ys Origin for free. I really hope this announcement sheds some light on SC and what its current status is. I beat FC last night and the trailer after the credits just made me eager to play more.
Do all the games in the LoH series follow the style of gameplay? I always felt like it fit well on the PSP having the larger story missions padded between smaller bracer quests. It was nice being able to pick it up for 30-60 mins and knock off a few quests.
I actually dont see myself plunking down for 50+ hours on PC and playing a game like this but that could all change when I actually do it.
Do all the games in the LoH series follow the style of gameplay? I always felt like it fit well on the PSP having the larger story missions padded between smaller bracer quests. It was nice being able to pick it up for 30-60 mins and knock off a few quests.
I actually dont see myself plunking down for 50+ hours on PC and playing a game like this but that could all change when I actually do it.
chaosblade
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RyougaSaotome
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Well there you go.
Doesn't make the Steam stuff any less legit of course.
Doesn't make the Steam stuff any less legit of course.
Yes I know - and my post didn't suggest otherwise. I just want the best version of the game localized! And it does involve Falcom somewhat since they're writing an extra scenario for it.
NOOO!! SC ;_;
Yes it should be.
Anyone else find it a bit weird that they're listed as XSEED Partners on the registry? The company's official name is XSEED JKS... Maybe they have an external partner in this crusade?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
keeping thread open because the Steam thing is still news
chaosblade
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Yeah, with them added on there they'll certainly release something eventually. Even if it's not announced today. Though they have said they have multiple announcements coming relatively soon. Last Story might have been the only one this month though, dunno.
I kind of wondered if it was related to the fact they were just localizing the games, but that doesn't really make sense. Curious to see what happens with it.
Maybe they going to be rapid firing their (relative) megatons? Still, this is the very definition of SURPRISE, damn.
pancakesandsex
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C'moooooooon Dinosaur localization.
There is a fan translation of Dinosaur Resurrection going through at the moment.
Didn't know much about the game so looked it up on Youtube. The dungeon graphics look decent but the monsters are...cards? Really underwhelming
I think I misunderstood. I thought you were suggesting that XSEED should use the Vita version as a base if they wanted to develop their own PC port, but you were simply saying that XSEED should localize the Vita version instead of exploring PC releases. My bad.
Didn't know much about the game so looked it up on Youtube. The dungeon graphics look decent but the monsters are...cards? Really underwhelming
I don't know, I quite like it. Think it suits the style of the game.
If they went with actual 3D monsters, they would have been like the horrible CG used on the intro. That would have been much worse. Seriously, youtube the intro.
No prob, I can see how my wordings can leave room for a different interpretation.
I would have been fine with a hi-res art that "shudders" when you hit it, like on other cheap Wizardry knock-offs like Class of Heroes. The ugly-looking cards do nothing for me.
One issue of concern regarding XSEED tackling the Vita version of Zero is the voice work though. If they were to dub it, the cost would be pretty substantial because of the amount of content. If they were to leave it in Japanese, they might also have to pay more for the license because of the voice talent involved, and the huge cast. If they were to remove the majority of voice work, fans would probably get really pissed off and boycott the product anyway.
But the cards are the art (and they do shudder), so in other words, it's the art you don't like?
I guess they were partly trying to pay tribute to the original game that was released in 1989
chaosblade
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I figure they'd just cut it. I've only seen a few people complain about Atlus dropping a lot of the voice work in Growlanser, but no boycott threats or anything. Most fans would probably be happy just to get the game in the first place.
Hopefully this isn't a Tales of-level fanbase we're dealing with, otherwise XSEED is definitely going to be screwed regardless of what happens!
I think the biggest issue now is whether XSEED will even get to the point where this is a consideration for them
But if they do (which would be a miracle), I don't mind either way really at this point.Really hope SC comes out soon, whether on Steam or other ways.
Yeah the art just looks 16-bit Gagharv-era to me. And because they're drawn on tiny cards I can barely make out what they are!
xxczx
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The Facebook announcement was, the Steam registry is another thing.
They've still been added to the Steam registry.
Boooo. The 2D art, cards included, look amazing.
The game isn't a card game, FYI. It's just a stylistic choice. Keeping things simple keeps the battles moving at a very fast speed - a must in a game with this much fighting.
Edit: Tiny cards? Are you playing the PC-98 version or what?
Mmmm. Love all that hand-made 2D goodness. The UI is quite nice.
SpaceDrake
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And of course, Tom is being a tease about it:
http://xseedgames.com/forums/showthread.php?1209-Has-Tits-SC-been-confirmed/page19
So clearly something is still to come on this.
For those who missed it, the announcement for today was The Last Story on Wii.
Which means this whole Steam thing is still a mystery! OoooOOOooo...
http://xseedgames.com/forums/showthread.php?1209-Has-Tits-SC-been-confirmed/page19
So clearly something is still to come on this.
RyougaSaotome
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The Last Story is certainly big news, but at the moment I'm still infinitely more interested in where this Steam thing leads. Especially since Tom and the others have already acknowledged that it's a thing and not just a mistake or something.
crimsonheadGCN
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And then he followed that up with this:
Hmmm... *two* ValveTestApps, huh? Interesting...
-Tom
I'd like to think that TitS fans would know better than to bite the hand that feeds; in this case especially. But I'm probably being naive about it. If removing the voices was what it took to get us the game in English, I wouldn't bat an eye.
Edit: I would think that getting SC/3rd on Steam and Zero on Vita is just about the absolute best case scenario at this point.
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