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Mike Capps - Epic's GDC 2012 Unreal Engine demos shall have you gasping
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No, the Vita.
lordfroakie
Member
Pretty much the only things that would excite me from Epic these days would be Unreal or Jazz Jackrabbit revivals. Their engine has been the bane of my eyes most of this generation (as TheExodu5 mentioned) and their games are ... well I hate using the word but "dudebro". Put your games on some Steam sales and I may overlook the vaseline.
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Proper engine and demo running on PC. Downgraded for consoles then said downgrade is ported to PCs (maybe). Further downgraded to handhelds (maybe).
Basically, another engine that will never reach its potential because of consoles.
I have to wonder that with the way PC gaming has really provided such a boon to many publishers if Epic will continue to ignore it outright. Probably...
Basically, another engine that will never reach its potential because of consoles.
I have to wonder that with the way PC gaming has really provided such a boon to many publishers if Epic will continue to ignore it outright. Probably...
Quite presumptuous of you.
There is no proof that engine would be downgraded for PC. They have to show the engine and its proprietary achievements. More importantly, it's the game devs not the engine devs that create the development workflow to go from PC to console or vice-versa for an individual game.
Aside from Epic there are other engine developers.
Oh come on. The only people who somewhat impressed with UE3 on PC were Korean MMO developers. You know something was jacked when that was the case. Western devs will port their console versions with no upgrades, as usual, meaning the experience won't reach its full potential.
Sure can't count on Epic to do it.
This just made my day. Thank you lol
It's funny that you say that considering UE3 tech demos have features that were almost never used in most games. I'm guessing you have never opened up UDK because it's pretty amazing how many features are unused by developers, simply because they won't run on 2005 era hardware.
No I haven't. But as aforementioned, it's the duty of game devs, not engine devs. Given that consoles will be now using DX11 and equivalent the gap in terms of features used could be lessened between consoles and PC.
First of all, the new consoles will not be using DirectX11. I'm not sure why that rumor keeps flying around. Microsoft's xbox may use a derivative of the API, but it will most certainly not resemble DX11 on the PC, simply because there is a much bigger overhead. Sony will likely altogether be using it's own API.
Any sort of overhead is unwanted by developers, on the PC DX11 is necessary because it makes use of all that extra horsepower through directcompute and other architectures that are targeted towards high performance computing.
This is what is really true. More dudebro nonsense is not what Epic should be making. I really hope the studio realizes that they are wasting talent like this.
What I really want to see is an Open World FPS game in the Unreal Universe. Something like a modern Elder Scrolls.
specialguy
Banned
LOL, uhh, Epic themselves specifically said Samaritan runs on 1.1 teraflops at 720P and 2.5 teraflops 1080P. The latest single video cards are already over 3 teraflops (Tahiti 3.7 teraflops I think, Kepler rumored at 3) (heck, I assume SLI/Crossfire/DUAL GPU they'll be pushing 7 or 8 teraflops with ease obviously).
herzogzwei1989
Banned
Cannot wait until GDC!
Those CERN scientists really need to hurry up and figure out how to work those FTL neutrinos.
I H8 Memes
Member
Yes, that's what a rendered movie needed to run. Not an actual game with physics, animation, a free camera, an actual play area around the player instead of only rendering what the camera is showing at that exact moment, and all those other great and demanding things that makes a game a game. It's a movie. It's as playable as Wall-E.
bgassassin
Member
I'll need to see it running on one AMD GPU before I believe that's possible.
Wait a sec. You need over a teraflop of processing power to play a rendered 720p movie?
Also, didn't they pause the Samaritan demo, enable and disable lights, move the camera around live, etc. when they showed it off?
I H8 Memes
Member
Yes it's real time but it is in no way playable. I would like to see the camera being moved around freely while the demo is running and not when it is paused. I would also like to see exactly how much geometry there is around the scene. Just because I see 2 walls doesnt mean an entire room is around me.
maniac-kun
Member
Bring it on! My body is ready.
bgassassin
Member
Haha. You just reminded me of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=c5X6_tuY3Wk#t=202s
specialguy
Banned
Moving the camera around pretty much means playable...
AI is just a CPU thing, no problem there.
Samaritan doesnt look THAT amazing anyway. I expect/hope whats at GDC will be the real UE4 jaw droppers.
Those first UE3 demos blew my mind back in the day, Samaritan, while cool, doesn't have the same effect. I dont know if it's the dark setting limiting visibility or what.
I think the most interesting thing is the further and continued destruction of the "we've hit a diminishing returns wall" nonsense. If Capps says these demos will make us gasp, a lot is implied there obviously.
Of course they want to, more and more developers are switching to CryEngine 3. Having UE4 ready to ship is what they need to not suffer the fate of id Software. Ok, id Tech 4 was just too limited and that's why UE3 became the de facto standard but now Crytek is at the top of their game. Part of Epics problem is that they try to do everything, from mobile platforms to handhelds to tablets to consoles and PC. Crytek focuses on their strengths and right now they have the best engine on the market. Epic needs UE4 to be one step ahead again.
Would be funnier if the "wat" only appeared when the doors opened.
abstract alien
Member
Can't say I've actually been impressed with a technical demo in years. Ill be glad to let them make it happen though, so bring it on.
TheNamelessOne
Member
This will be the biggest moment in gaming of the year - either it shows off a "true next-generation" or it shows that a paradigm shift in gfx development won't happen for a while. I have faith in EPIC though.
Of course, they would like to start making money licensing their new engine ASAP. They'd also be in deep trouble if MS or Sony didn't come out with very powerful hardware.
I hope not.
Buy it MS so we won't see it running on PS4, PC, or the Wii U!
Yeah, game code isn't all that important in games.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Cannnnnnnot wait! Bring it home, Epic. What a year this is gonna be
Why?
They would have a very expensive and advanced engine on their hands that wouldn't run on consoles, so they'd have to rely on the PC market to cover the costs of development.
bgassassin
Member
They've promoted UE4's scalability too much to believe that would be an issue.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Im pretty sure Samaritan had physics, im pretty sure the assets were animated(lol) and im pretty sure the camera could've been rotated/panned in any fashion they wanted to do. I really doubt they did anything in regards to LOD.
Besides, he only gave GPU requirements, which most "game code" doesn't run on.
Good point. But devs will be more eager to jump on the UE4 bandwagon and pay for the license if the results they can get actually show considerable progress compared to UE3 projects.
Epic always demos their high-end stuff on PCs. PCs that will be far more powerful than the next gen consoles will be, mind you, but nonetheless...
Yeah, but it'd be nice to see them break the norm for once... Damnit, I just want surprises and excitement!
Broadbandito
Member
Looks like I need to pick these as my duties as a CA at Gdc so I can watch em live 