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Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!

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The problem is Reggie said there would be more info before E3, so people are left to assume/believe that could happen at any time. And GDC seemed like a candidate for at least some info to come out.


I'm a cynical man so i wouldn't trust reggie about such stuff...it was probably crowd control. Just like what will happen with launch games..
 

frostbyte

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Weren't there some tweets about Wii U's lineup and Harker saying there would be 'hot' games or something?

Or were they just trolling?
 

royalan

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So...Nintendo might break no news at GDC. Coupled with some not-exactly-glowing comments from devs, and I can't help but wonder if the extreme silence is a sign of uncertainty on Nintendo's part, and not them holding back a tidal wave of awesome for E3.
 
you just admitted that the WiiU is the exception, so anything can happen. We got accurate leaks for that well in advance, and then Nintendo revealed it early, and then we got megatons in an investors briefing. ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN this time.

Oh I know. My point isn't so much that you shouldn't expect any info, more like you should be used to getting no info by now. Nintendo's been damn secretive every console launch. Could info leak, sure, but Nintendo will do their best to keep things a complete total secret. Hell we got a sample of the graphical power of Wii U. This also never happened for any of the previous systems so far in advance. Yeah, you can laugh at the Wii being weak, but we went through a similar phase with the N64 and Gamecube, and those 2 were no slouches in time.

Man, can you imagine what it was like waiting for next month's Nintendo Power for information on the N64 back when the internet was still at its infancy? The only source for most of us was still once a month magazines.
 
So...Nintendo might break no news at GDC. Coupled with some not-exactly-glowing comments from devs, and I can't help but wonder if the extreme silence is a sign of uncertainty on Nintendo's part, and not them holding back a tidal wave of awesome for E3.

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The not exactly glowing comments came from analysts, with one dev saying it's up to Nintendo to make it succeed (which was a big understatement).
 

bryanee

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Oh I know. My point isn't so much that you shouldn't expect any info, more like you should be used to getting no info by now. Nintendo's been damn secretive every console launch. Could info leak, sure, but Nintendo will do their best to keep things a complete total secret.

Man, can you imagine what it was like waiting for next month's Nintendo Power for information on the N64 back when the internet was still at its infancy? The only source for most of us was still once a month magazines.

It wasnt so bad during those days because I didnt have the internet ramming the fact that a new console was coming out everyday. It was easy to forget about it and just play the consoles and games that were out at the time.
 

Anth0ny

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Oh I know. My point isn't so much that you shouldn't expect any info, more like you should be used to getting no info by now. Nintendo's been damn secretive every console launch. Could info leak, sure, but Nintendo will do their best to keep things a complete total secret. Hell we got a sample of the graphical power of Wii U. This also never happened for any of the previous systems so far in advance. Yeah, you can laugh at the Wii being weak, but we went through a similar phase with the N64 and Gamecube, and those 2 were no slouches in time.

Man, can you imagine what it was like waiting for next month's Nintendo Power for information on the N64 back when the internet was still at its infancy? The only source for most of us was still once a month magazines.

We never went a full year with no info. N64 and Gamecube had Spaceworld, and Wii had TGS. We haven't seen or heard ANYTHING of Wii U since E3 last year.

Honestly, this would be much less painful if they waited to unveal the controller at TGS or something.
 

royalan

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The not exactly glowing comments came from analysts, with one dev saying it's up to Nintendo to make it succeed (which was a big understatement).

Honestly, that sounds a lot like what a teacher would say to a student they didn't want to praise, but didn't have the heart to outright criticize.

"Well, you know Billy...it's really up to you if you want to pass this class."
 

vaelic

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Nintendo is in a battle for time. Not for an overall encompassing of people's lives.
They want you to spend as much time playing their games as you do watching TV or surfing the internet.
The tablet controller is for familiarity. Tablets are big and easy to use.
The content providers (Comcast, Hulu, Netflix, ect) are to get you to go to your console first, rather than you PC.
If you're using their system, you are more likely to be playing games on it.
They, unlike Apple, don't want to become your phone or your PC or even your TV. They just want to become the device that you use more often.





As opposed to them complaining about people bumping a dozen topics speculating and discussing it?

I don't see what the problem is. And who is complaining? And why? It makes no sense. Is this topic really so distracting?

look in various threads. many complaining
 
We never went a full year with no info. N64 and Gamecube had Spaceworld, and Wii had TGS. We haven't seen or heard ANYTHING of Wii U since E3 last year.

Honestly, this would be much less painful if they waited to unveal the controller at TGS or something.

The info for those were all pretty close to launch though. Man, the amount of speculation and teasing about the Revolution started around... I think 2004.
 

guek

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look in various threads. many complaining

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The only way these threads affect you is by reading them. You clicking a thread that bothers you shouldn't be anyone else's concern but your own.
 
So...Nintendo might break no news at GDC. Coupled with some not-exactly-glowing comments from devs, and I can't help but wonder if the extreme silence is a sign of uncertainty on Nintendo's part, and not them holding back a tidal wave of awesome for E3.

You really think that Nintendo wants to show something but has absolutely nothing that they feel is worth announcing and that's why they're holding back? I mean... c'mon now.
 
Honestly, that sounds a lot like what a teacher would say to a student they didn't want to praise, but didn't have the heart to outright criticize.

"Well, you know Billy...it's really up to you if you want to pass this class."

I see what you're saying, but I don't think the analogy fits. A console will always depend on the hardware maker to succeed. But if that was the intent of the developer, then that was a poor choice of words on their part IMO.
 

royalan

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You really think that Nintendo wants to show something but has absolutely nothing that they feel is worth announcing and that's why they're holding back? I mean... c'mon now.

That's not what I'm saying at all.

I think they might be uncertain about the angle they want to go with Wii U.
 
Yeah, it's slow, but you gotta have FAITH.

Nintendo is sitting on a pile of gold, it's just a matter of time before we have to cover our faces from the shinyness.

3D Mario at E3, brixx will be shat
 

guek

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Holy geez, Nintendo's stock price is back in the teens?

To infinity and beyond!

That's not what I'm saying at all.

I think they might be uncertain about the angle they want to go with Wii U.

That seems highly unlikely. Nintendo has historically always had a good idea what they want their hardware to be. They're all about core design philosophies revolving around software development first and foremost. It might be that they're having a difficult time properly conveying their ideas, but I doubt that they've yet to settle on what they want the wii u to be.
 
So...Nintendo might break no news at GDC. Coupled with some not-exactly-glowing comments from devs, and I can't help but wonder if the extreme silence is a sign of uncertainty on Nintendo's part, and not them holding back a tidal wave of awesome for E3.

They have the goods, there is no doubt in my mind.

Will E3 be masterpiece after masterpiece after masterpiece???

I doubt it but they're not going to disappoint in what they show.
 

lenovox1

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Holy geez, Nintendo's stock price is back in the teens?

LOL no. That's their ADR, which is a bit different than a normal stock. It basically allows you to say that you own some stock of a foreign company without the hassles of actually owning the stock. This is their actual stock in the Osaka stock exchange(?): http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/overview?symbol=7974.OS It's trading at around $140, and they have a market cap of around $21 billion if I did the conversions right.
 

AzaK

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Holy geez, Nintendo's stock price is back in the teens?

I might actually hit an overall 0% gains eventually....<sob> <looks at next line> <smiles>


They have the goods, there is no doubt in my mind.

Will E3 be masterpiece after masterpiece after masterpiece???

I doubt it but they're not going to disappoint in what they show.

Who knows, I mean the amount of hype this thread has, I think people will be expecting a sizzle real of epic proportions to start the instant Iwata walks on stage and not stop for 90 minutes. At which time the lights raise and there's just a crowd of sweating gamers staring wide eyed, jaws agape, and unable to move.
 
Although I'm looking forward to sparkly HD versions of Ninty franchises, I think WarioWare U is my most wanted game for launch. The Wii version was awesome.
 
Meh, Nintendo is probably getting all their eggs in order for E3. It's probably their biggest show in the next 5 years. And it's 3 months away!
 

Terrell

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Never mind, found the shit-disturbing bit myself.

4 things:

1) it's Kotaku.

2) it's Kotaku posting about what an analyst thinks.

3) this "developer" could only work on iOS or shareware PC games for all we know. They tend to spout the most shit-talk anyways because they have no vested interest in the console market. Without naming the developer, it's empty rhetoric.

4) even if he was a "developer", where does he sit on the food chain? What he thinks is irrelevant if he doesn't make the decisions about what is and isn't bankrolled.


There's too much to be suspicious of for anyone to put weight in it.
 
Never mind, found the shit-disturbing bit myself.

4 things:

1) it's Kotaku.

2) it's Kotaku posting about what an analyst thinks.

3) this "developer" could only work on iOS or shareware PC games for all we know. They tend to spout the most shit-talk anyways because they have no vested interest in the console market. Without naming the developer, it's empty rhetoric.

4) even if he was a "developer", where does he sit on the food chain? What he thinks is irrelevant if he doesn't make the decisions about what is and isn't bankrolled.

No one with a brain is worried about this "news".

The 3DS limping out the starting gate alone(along with the "confusing" and lackluster Wii U reveal) was the best thing that could have happened for Nintendo, they are really deliberately preparing for this moment(E3).

This could be the most important showing in the history of the company.
 

Anth0ny

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I think the third party lineup will be really strong, not sure how many first party titles will be well underway, there should be a couple showstoppers though.

Well, Retro Zelda is going to be there. And hopefully Pikmin. My left field prediction is a new F-Zero for Wii U. 1080p, 60fps, 30 player online. Really show off the power of the hardware.

That's more than enough to satisfy me.
 
Man, I've had to take a rest from this thread for a while. It is definitely its own type of madness. Yet here I am, and I think I'm pretty much caught up. No news at GDC? May the speculation continue, I suppose. Unless there's something big to reveal that they drop in one of their random press releases, I don't think we'll see anything until E3. Perhaps a May/June magazine or website exclusive on a 3rd party launch title ala Red Steel.

As for the big 1st party hardcore system-seller game, I don't think I've heard enough good speculation yet. They need a Twilight Princess/Mario 64 type of launch and not a Luigi's Mansion/Steel Diver situation.

My best guess is that it's coming from EAD Tokyo 1 and it's either a new IP (Miyamoto has dropped hints about wanting to create a new character) or uses a familiar character in a new way. That or Donkey Kong. 3D Donkey Kong. In the city?

Actually, if you will forgive me for this fanboy fantasy, what if Nintendo and Capcom worked together on a new 3D Megaman title? Nintendo have given Capcom Zelda in the past, why not work the other way? Plus, the anniversary of Megaman, Iwata's hints on more 3rd party collaborations ala M:OM, Capcom being incapable of getting the job done themselves...

Ok sorry, I'll stop.
 

Combine

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After walking through Nintendo's GDC booth, yeah, they ain't going to be dropping anything WiiU at all as was expected. It's all E3 once again *cue Fifth Element gif*
 
Actually, here's an idea so utterly insane Nintendo just might consider it: a Wii U version of the Circle Pad Pro. It would:

-essentially form a grip for the controller (hopefully in an aesthetically pleasing way).
-add 2 analog sticks beneath the dpad/buttons
-add analog triggers

I mean, Nintendo has always been nuts with the peripherals. If the only thing they have is that Zapper, though, I'll be a bit let down.
 

Anth0ny

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Actually, here's an idea so utterly insane Nintendo just might consider it: a Wii U version of the Circle Pad Pro. It would:

-essentially form a grip for the controller (hopefully in an aesthetically pleasing way).
-add 2 analog sticks beneath the dpad/buttons
-add analog triggers

I mean, Nintendo has always been nuts with the peripherals. If the only thing they have is that Zapper, though, I'll be a bit let down.

If they don't release the controller with analog sticks or analog triggers, I think we'll definitely see a revision sometime down the road.

Ideally, a "Classic Controller" is released at launch that fixes these problems.
 
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