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Family of Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch seeks arrest
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Devolution
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Could have easily been tazed and died from the impact of his head on the concrete. Cut the shit will you?
Well - I'm pretty sure the recording will be very interesting and will obviously shed light on what happened.
KHarvey - I'm guessing when you say "most of them rather unlikely", you are either understating, or you have a scenario that is likely?
If what we're reading in the story is true, then he called 911, and if protocol was followed, he was told to wait for police to arrive. What would be the likely scenario that would take place that would cause Zimmerman to disobey the instructions of the dispatcher, confront an unarmed kid and have the situation escalate to such a point that he shot him in the chest?
KHarvey - I'm guessing when you say "most of them rather unlikely", you are either understating, or you have a scenario that is likely?
If what we're reading in the story is true, then he called 911, and if protocol was followed, he was told to wait for police to arrive. What would be the likely scenario that would take place that would cause Zimmerman to disobey the instructions of the dispatcher, confront an unarmed kid and have the situation escalate to such a point that he shot him in the chest?
If it was a white kid, nothing would have ever happened. It's racism, through and through.
Hell, it could have been a white bum walking down the street drunk off his ass yelling in his underwear waving a stick and I almost guarantee nobody would have gotten shot.
It just comes down to the "captain's" preconceptions and those influenced how he interacted with the kid. I hope he goes to jail and becomes someone's "princess".
Hell, it could have been a white bum walking down the street drunk off his ass yelling in his underwear waving a stick and I almost guarantee nobody would have gotten shot.
It just comes down to the "captain's" preconceptions and those influenced how he interacted with the kid. I hope he goes to jail and becomes someone's "princess".
Devolution
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Dude, stop.
CrazyDogg77
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So this whole situation would have been fine without guns?
frankie_baby
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Highly less likely to be dead though so you cut the shit
captmcblack
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GUYS, OBVIOUSLY THIS THREAD IS RACIST BECAUSE IF AN INNOCENT YOUNG WHITE BOY WAS KILLED NEEDLESSLY BY BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHMEN WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN CARRYING WEAPONS IN THE FIRST PLACE IN AN UPSCALE GATED BLACK COMMUNITY THIS THREAD WOULD ONLY BE 3 POSTS LONG
REVERSE RACISM, BROS
now, who can find the error in the above statement?
REVERSE RACISM, BROS
now, who can find the error in the above statement?
Devolution
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I'm not the one turning a thread about the racist implications of this guy's deeds into yet another thread about gun control in America. So no you need to cut the shit frankly.
frankie_baby
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I'm sure trayvon martin would probably think so
I'm being sarcastic.
CrazyDogg77
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We have those you know. ^^^I thought so.
Devolution
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Only frankie dude.
60_gig_PS3
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sad but not surprising. Too many gun toting lunatics just waiting for any excuse to use it.
captmcblack
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echoshifting
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I read a few more stories on this, turns out he was taken in for questioning and released without being charged.
frankie_baby
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When a thread is about someone being shot it'd be insulting to the dead guy for it not to be mentioned
CrazyDogg77
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You obviously don't know what it's like to be suspected of a crime because of your race. That's never fine.
Devolution
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That damn timing.
You're pretty much thread shitting a serious discussion on an act that was fueled by racism by focusing on the gun violence. The ability and accessibility of weapons is not he fucking issue here, stop trying to make it so.
Dahellisdat
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What if the kid approached the car because the weird neighborhood watch guy was staring at him from his car in the middle of the road? I mean that doesn't make what happened legitimate, but there is a possibility that something crazy may have happened that isn't alluded to in the OP.
What was reported to 911? How did the conversation go? Was he told not to approach? What was he told? Why did he approach?
Your assumption seems to be that this was a clearly unlawful shooting. Again I'll repeat that the police ignoring a clearly unlawful shooting is as unlikely as any scenario I could think up for why this kid ended up dead. We have one side of the story, and even they are clearly ignorant about some details and, by virtue of their request for the 911 call, knowingly so.
frankie_baby
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I'm sure he'd rather be alive though
Devolution
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This is why I want to here the 911 call, the dispatcher is supposed to tell the caller to not interfere.
echoshifting
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So it isn't safe to assume the 911 operator followed standard procedure? We should just say "who the hell knows" on that one?
This does not mesh well with your accusation earlier that I was relying too much on assumed incompetence. Your argument here assumes incompetence.
They don't have to arrest you for you to submit to questioning. Guy could have gone down to the station voluntarily and then went home. We don't know.
Also, guns suck and I don't see why this thread can't also be about how guns suck. You can't force people to not be racist but you can force them not to carry a gun.
this concept of the police possibly ignoring a clearly unlawful shooting being out of the realm of possibility to you is very puzzling.
Devolution
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Because some of us don't want to see another gun control debate when the real issue here is one of racial injustice.
samus i am
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I laughed. Maybe not in Florida, but Atlanta has some nice communities.
I know so many people in Florida who own guns that shouldn't. God damn, such a scary state.
I think they're both issues here. If he didn't have a gun then he would have had to go through much more effort to take a persons life. The likeliness of the young man dieing goes down without a gun in the situation.
I think they're both issues here. If he didn't have a gun then he would have had to go through much more effort to take a persons life. The likeliness of the young man dieing goes down without a gun in the situation.
oh I assure you, it was merely a bad joke
You go ahead and point out for me where I suggest any such thing. I very explicitly said the exact opposite previously.
Just to illustrate my point, here is a news article about the incident:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/new...n-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation
We don't have enough information.
frankie_baby
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While the racial injustice is terrible a young man has still been shot with a gun, the bullet from that gun killed him
Neuromancer
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Actually we do know this:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Police-Neighborhood-watch-member-involved-in-fatal-shooting/-/1637132/9135750/-/kttjl8z/-/index.html
I would assume that meant being brought into a station for questioning.
It sounds like investigation is still underway; I think people should wait for the outcome of that investigation and the relevant facts that come out of it before they get too upset.
CrazyDogg77
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So guns are the real racists.
Neuromancer
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frankie_baby
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no guns aint picky they'll kill everyone equally
60_gig_PS3
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I happen to agree this isn't about race. It's about lunatics being allowed to carry a gun on the street. But I happen to live in the inner city and have daily exposure to gun violence so I'm very anti-gun.
Devolution
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Isn't about race. Really dude. Really.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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It be insulting to the dead guy to try and shoehorn it in to a topic where its not even relevant.
Big Baybee
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He had no right to confront the kid, period. Bullshit that he hasn't been arrested.
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