shadyspace
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Do you think Don Draper is an awful person like so many other people in this thread?
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Do you think Don Draper is an awful person like so many other people in this thread?
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
of course he's an awful person?
He just happens to be so fascinating because he's an awful person. And he happens to be, on occasion, genuinely insightful/creative/talented.
Cornballer
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- Season 5 promo pics are up at Hitfix
Now I can finally finish up the S5 OP.
More pics via the link.
Now I can finally finish up the S5 OP.
More pics via the link.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
The fact that Joan isn't wearing a prosthetic pregnant belly intrigues me.
Although these are just promo shots - who knows
Although these are just promo shots - who knows
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
She's probably already had the kid.
What's Bert doing there?
Is that the same office?
What's Bert doing there?
Is that the same office?
and sometimes, just sometimes, a hint of goodness appears (like with his children once in a while, or his interactions with Anna, or with Peggy at the end of The Suitcase). Most of the time he's an asshole, a terrible parent, an insufferable boss... but I still like him, despite all his flaws. As you said, he's fascinating because he's an awful person
Krauser Kat
Member
Hot Damn she is great in this dress.
Leona Lewis
Banned
January Jones finally looking her age, it seems. I hope Betty features more prominently this season - January may be a total bitch in real life, but she's a really underrated actress. Not many actresses can carry five minutes of monologue as well as she did here.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
I think the part of Betty was tailored to January, and it's really the only part she can play as an actress. Even when she was on SNL - she was just Betty in every skit
sixteen-bit
Member
I just saw First Class. Campiness aside, she's a crappy actress.
Sooo hyped for S5. Not much longer now!
Leona Lewis
Banned
To be fair, she wasn't given much to work with. The writing for everyone except Fassbender/McAvoy was paper thin.
I will admit that she doesn't have as much range as Olsen or Hendricks. I was gobsmacked when I learned she originally auditioned for the role of Peggy
BertramCooper
Banned
Bert is still around!
Hooray!
Yeah, this is pretty much my thinking as well. People who say she's shitty on Mad Men are just being stupid. She may be shitty in almost everything else, but she has been consistently awesome on Mad Men.
Hooray!
Yeah, this is pretty much my thinking as well. People who say she's shitty on Mad Men are just being stupid. She may be shitty in almost everything else, but she has been consistently awesome on Mad Men.
-Pyromaniac-
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It's crazy how they make Moss seem very old fashioned and rigid with her clothing/hair/everything on the show.
It's crazy how they make Moss seem very old fashioned and rigid with her clothing/hair/everything on the show.
Eh, those pictures are misleading.
-Pyromaniac-
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Well it's obviously a high class photo shoot but the point stands, she looks more rigid/old fashioned on the show by a ton. Another more normal pic.
BertramCooper
Banned
But compare her current dress and hairstyle to the way she looked in Season 1:
Peggy will never be at the forefront of fashion; that's part of her character. That said, I think they've evolved her style quite nicely.
-Pyromaniac-
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Hey I'm saying it's a good job!
BertramCooper
Banned
Furthermore, S1 Peggy and S4 Peggy are barely the same person anymore. She still has some lingering confidence issues, but almost everything else has changed.
I just think about that scene in the series premiere where she awkwardly tries to seduce Don, and then the scene in The Suitcase where she's shouting at him at the top of her lungs, claiming he stole all of the credit for Glo-Coat from her.
It's quite a remarkable evolution. She's such an amazing character.
I just think about that scene in the series premiere where she awkwardly tries to seduce Don, and then the scene in The Suitcase where she's shouting at him at the top of her lungs, claiming he stole all of the credit for Glo-Coat from her.
It's quite a remarkable evolution. She's such an amazing character.
-Pyromaniac-
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By the series finale she'll be Peggy as seen in the first pic I posted, running shit
BertramCooper
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What's also interesting is how drastically the women on the show have changed over the course of the series, while the men have comparatively changed very little and largely been resistant to do so. That includes everything - from their fashion to their politics.
The women have been agents of social change, while the men have obstructed it at every turn.
The women have been agents of social change, while the men have obstructed it at every turn.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Who's pretending?
-Pyromaniac-
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Most of the change during that time was centred around women so I'd say they're doing a pretty accurate job. I wonder if they take all that into account, or it's just an interesting coincidence.
Leona Lewis
Banned
That's why I find Pete so much more interesting than Don or Roger. He's still a petulant child in some respects, but he's become less and less selfish. I can't wait to see how having a family and being a father affect him this coming season.
Also, based on that NYT interview, my theory for the series finale is
a time skip to the present day.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Yeah, I think that would work really well.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Awesome. It sounds gross though.
shadyspace
Banned
Yes. Pete is representative of the younger generation of men who resisted the change of the era at first but because of their youth, had the benefit to choose to adapt. Of course, some didn't. Pete did. One of my favorite scenes from last season was when Don and Roger and him came back from the CLIOs and they had the meeting with Life cereal. I loved Pete's disgust at Don and Roger's drunken antics, their unprofessionalism and irresponsibility.
brianjones
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Expendable.
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Ah, my friend just got the season premiere screener. Fingers crossed I'll be watching it this weekend!
Leona Lewis
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Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Draping at the *what* Tower?
Leona Lewis
Banned
Not sure how Mad Men and The Godfather 3 are related, except that AMC airs both constantlypretty sure he's alluded to this before
Ventilaator
Banned
Wait, S5 premiere is basically a Mad Men movie? I have to catch up quickly now because that sounds great.
This is a fad I can endorse.
-Stranger-
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Holy shit only 2 weeks until S5!
This month is awesome.
This month is awesome.
-Pyromaniac-
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Draping is totally badass.
brianjones
Member
it's really not
-Pyromaniac-
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says zack morris phone sunglasses bates
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Is that Harry? Eww.
brianjones
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petes hairline.. poor guy
It's actually kind of shocking.
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