But what happened with the PSP was a miracle. Somehow the stars aligned and it became the "otaku"
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PS Vita general advice thread, part 3 | Veni, vidi, Vita
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But what happened with the PSP was a miracle. Somehow the stars aligned and it became the "otaku"
Let us pray.
Geez.Only Gravity Rush excites me and I'll probably double dip on MGS HD (Currently just finished MGS2 earlier today).
looking forward to some more announcements or titles sneaking out of nowhere.
Anyone know why we didn't get a Vita version of "Shoot Many Robots"? I posed the question on Demiurge's official forums, and the Exec. Producer said they'd be all for it, but the publisher (Ubisoft) has to be on board: http://demiurgestudios.com/community/viewthread/96/
Shoot Many Robots would be a perfect fit for the Vita, so go forth and do what you do best, my fellow GAF'ers: make some noise!
What game were you playing ?
Was PSP really a miracle ?
It went through a cycle of drought because Sony ignored the platform. As long as Sony is behind the platform, they will be able to do something with their partners to grow it.
region free
SRTtoZ
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Not sure if this has been posted but new MK9 Vita footage.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/18/new-mortal-kombat-trailer-shows-off-vita-centric-gameplay/
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/18/new-mortal-kombat-trailer-shows-off-vita-centric-gameplay/
SRTtoZ
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Yeha! And get Wipeout, its pretty damn awesome.
Sony didn't handle the PSP well and didn't go get support for it. They assumed that everyone would just put games on it because it's a Sony product. They seem to be doing the same thing for the Vita.
The fact that the PSP became what it did was a complete miracle. That platform was dead. And I felt about it the same way I feel about the Vita now. But then Capcom came along and released this MonHun on it. The PS2 Monster Hunter wasn't particularly huge, but the PSP one somehow was. And then the PSP exploded in popularity with core gamers as the DS was waning because devs just had trouble selling on it.
The PS2 is gone and the PS3 was too much of a financial investment for these smaller Japanese developers. The 360 wasn't a viable option. So the PSP was it.
The stars really did align and a complete fluke happened. That's how the PSP became what it did.
I can't possibly sit here and expect this type of thing to happen again for the Vita. The 3DS actually has 3rd party support this time. These games are doing well sales-wise. The PS3 is now at a point where small developers can make games for it with reasonable budgets. MonHun is on the 3DS. No announcement for the Vita.
The Vita has none of the factors that the PSP had that made it a success.
At this point, it would take a miracle for the Vita to become a proper successor for the PSP. How many miracles can you reasonably expect to happen to Sony?
The Vita is selling ~10k units according to Media Create. That number is going to go down. If you're a developer looking at those numbers, what incentive do you have to put games on it? The only games coming out for the Vita are the ones that were in dev before these numbers were out there. The only Vita software on the Media Create chart was Unit 13 at like 8k units sold.
If that isn't grim, I don't know what is.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
I need PS1 classics.And I need them soon.
Monster hunter didn't really save the PSP well in japan but it did give it a good boost. And the crazy piracy and lack of Sony own support drove away developers.
But now on the Vita they do seem like they're trying to do something right
MonHun alone didn't save the PSP. But it got the entire thing started.
I thought I made that point with the other reasons in my post. It was a few factors, not just MonHun. Vita has none of those factors.
And piracy and lack of support drove away developers in the West. Japan totally embraced the PSP. For a long time we had more Japanese support for the PSP than the PS3.
Liquidsnake
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Since launch how many times have you charged your Vita?
How many charges before we see a huge dip in battery life? The PSP was shot after 12 months, And I didn't even charge it that much.
So far I have charged it maybe 6 times.
Still play HSG everyday for the daily tourneys
I was blown away by Wipeout.
Lumines is amazing.
How many charges before we see a huge dip in battery life? The PSP was shot after 12 months, And I didn't even charge it that much.
So far I have charged it maybe 6 times.
Still play HSG everyday for the daily tourneys
I was blown away by Wipeout.
Lumines is amazing.
Grinchy
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haha that looks kinda cool
SRTtoZ
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Charged it probably around 10-15 times so far but Ive been keeping it plugged in while I play as of late since I am almost ALWAYS near an outlet.
I dont think anyone knows how long the battery will last since its only been out a few months but I am sure SONY stress tested this thing.
SRTtoZ
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Day 1 for me. MK always brings a ton of Kontent to its fighting games plus who doesn't want to fruit ninja people to death? Also it looks like Shao Khan is playable from the trailer! I know there was some challenge tower stuff for him in the console versions but you can fatality with him in this one.
8BitsAtATime
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My first platinum trophy. I know its silly but im going to work on all the Lego games....next the Harry Potters on the PS3.
8BitsAtATime
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Naw its part of the Duelling Club.
Want to buy a game from the PS store but am using a sub account, is there any way to top up the master account without a PS3? I seem stuck here
What do you mean 'top up'? You mean add credit to your Vita account? Sure, you can top up through the store but you want to make sure it's your primary account you're using.
I hope that's what you mean.
SuperDowns
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So the compatible list says Patapon 3 and it is NOT compatible at all. I have to wait till they make it so, but out 20 bucks.
So update the list as such.
I'm also disappointed as I got PS Plus because I thought God of War: Ghost of Sparta PSP was $10 down with it. It turns out that it is the HD remake for PS3 that is discounted not the PSP version.
All in all PS Store and these compatibility issues blow.
So update the list as such.
I'm also disappointed as I got PS Plus because I thought God of War: Ghost of Sparta PSP was $10 down with it. It turns out that it is the HD remake for PS3 that is discounted not the PSP version.
All in all PS Store and these compatibility issues blow.
Lulz, no.
Dragon's Crown
Gravity Rush
Ragnarok Oddyssey
DJ Max Technika
Virtue's Last Reward
Time Travelers
Army Corps of Hell
Lord of Apocalypse
Everybody's Golf 6
Little King's Story
Tales of Innocence R
Sumioni
Lumines
Shinobido 2
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Touch My Katamari
Ys IV
Plus plenty of more or less straight ports
Malicious
Metal Gear Soild HD
Zone of the Enders HD
Virtua Tennis 4
Street Fighter X Tekken
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
Disgaea 3
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Phantasy Star Online 2
Persona 4: Golden
The Japanese are represented pretty well, so far. There's nothing MEGA HUGE OMG ZOMG FFVII REMAKE level yet, perhaps, but you can't argue there's no Japanese presence.
Meh, 3DS was in a very similar situation less than a year ago. Look at them now. All Sony needs are a few big games and given how they aren't quite panicking yet, I'd assume they've got something good coming up.
Also, does Media Create follow digital sales? The reason why software sales seem low could perhaps be partly caused by people actually jumping on the digital age boat, as even I'm considering going mostly digital (and I'm not the biggest fan of a download only future)
Yeah I mean adding funds to the wallet on the master account. As the Vita is using a sub account I have to add funds to the master account and while I'm away from being able to do it via my PS3 I don't know any other alternatives and I'm not sure if buying a prepaid card will work as I've heard reports say you have to be in a master account to do that.
KamenSenshi
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Only 6 times, wow, I've had to charge mine almost every day.
archnemesis
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Have you played any of them before? They're all really good, but I prefer Final Fantasy Tactics.
I get what Frequency is saying, but I can't help but feel talk of the Vita not doing certain things or failing at this or that is premature, right now.
The Vita has been out globally for a month. I appreciate it's not shifting big (or even satisfactory) numbers in Japan yet, but I don't think that signals any sort of death toll just yet. Sony know what's required to make a success of the Japanese market, and whatever people think of Sony as a company, they're not incompetent to the point where they're going to stand back and watch their hardware die in a territory without doing something about it.
Our taste in games is likely very different, but there are already more games available and expecting release for the Vita that I'm excited about than on 3DS in 2012; and I say that as someone who is also super excited for the 3DS. After suffering the first 7 months of the 3DS' life, I'm learning not to worry too much after such a short space of time. If Sony slash the price, launch an ambassadors program, reveal their schedule for the next 18 months at the summers various trade shows, and the system STILL doesn't sell, I'll start worrying.
The Vita has been out globally for a month. I appreciate it's not shifting big (or even satisfactory) numbers in Japan yet, but I don't think that signals any sort of death toll just yet. Sony know what's required to make a success of the Japanese market, and whatever people think of Sony as a company, they're not incompetent to the point where they're going to stand back and watch their hardware die in a territory without doing something about it.
Our taste in games is likely very different, but there are already more games available and expecting release for the Vita that I'm excited about than on 3DS in 2012; and I say that as someone who is also super excited for the 3DS. After suffering the first 7 months of the 3DS' life, I'm learning not to worry too much after such a short space of time. If Sony slash the price, launch an ambassadors program, reveal their schedule for the next 18 months at the summers various trade shows, and the system STILL doesn't sell, I'll start worrying.
HiddenAway
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I actually have Patapon 3 installed on my Vita right now (EU account).
I haven't actually started it though because I still haven't finished the second ;_;
Played Tactics on GBA. That's it.
SRTtoZ
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People dont seem to undertand, they act like Sony is just going to neglect what people want in order to sell this thing. If it takes a Monster hunter to sell it in Japan, Sony will put Monster Hunter on it, if it takes a FF remake, Sony will get one made. They will do whatever they need to in order to sell this thing. The handheld just came out! What were we looking at last year around this time? SSF43D, Pilotwings, Steel fucking Diver and the only hope on the horizon was a Zelda remake (for the 10th time) which I bought so I shouldnt talk lol. Regardless in time Nintendo announced some new titles and all was good again. Just give it time, Sony has games up their sleeves for this thing.
SuperDowns
Banned
They need to update the list to indicate it only works for EU.
I played a 100% tactics on GBA the PSP version I sold cause it kinda difficult to me, but that just me
Exactly, so many people are being really harsh saying it's DOA because suddenly there aren't 10 games a month coming out for it. Every new console has a slow period for the first 6-9 months. Once the library is there (Not that the current titles are to be shrugged at) come Xmas I predict it will really hit a new stride, but for now it's just the die hard fans and people who want a new gadget have jumped on board.
The current launch of 35+ titles is more impressive than any other console launch before it, atleast we got more and a handful of quality, enjoyable games. I already own about 12 games for it by the end of the third week and I've never ever owned more than 3-4 within the first month of a launch. I'd happily buy a couple more but it's getting out of hand and I need to stay strong and put my foot down.
Would be very nice ! ^_^
SRTtoZ
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1) they are compatible
2) yes you need to transfer them from the PS3 via content manager. I have a feeling the Vita store and the PS3 stores as of right now are separate entities and Sony didnt feel like re-uploading all of the PSP games.
3) they look and play great! check it out! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgabuWMRSbE
I was playing a level in Mutant Blobs Attack for the 3rd time in a row to find the missing blob friend, and it's an annoying ass level. I finally found it, went through the rest of the level again, and right when I finished the level I got this screen:
It didn't save any of it. Anyone see this error screen before?
Yup. It happened to me on the second to the last level. I was really annoyed, since I had to do it all over again, and the level was kind of challenging.
Reactions in bold above.
I'm even going to respond to the "already out" category - which has nothing to do at all with my concerns about the Vita's future.
There are four "sure things" in the entire future of the Vita. One of them is a remake. One of them isn't Japanese - which is where my concerns come from. One is already out, I just haven't bought it yet. It's also available on the 3DS.
And one you haven't mentioned - Ciel nosurge. No western release.
So there is ONE future Japanese game that I can say I am 100% on board with.
That is cause to be concerned for me.
The 3DS was in a similar situation. But they already had developers come out to say they were on board. And they had no competition when it was struggling. And even when there were no games for me there, I knew stuff was coming. I knew which developers had signed on. The Vita is in a worse position.
I doubt digital is making a huge difference in Japan. When Unit 13 is the best selling Vita game in Japan with 8k copies, I don't know how you can say there isn't something to be worried about.
I'm glad you can be optimistic and excited for the future of the device. But I can't. Japan tends to agree with me if you look at the Vita sales numbers.
SRTtoZ
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It seems like Vita isnt the machine for you! Thanks for looking though.
Except I have a Vita and I like the hardware
(I'm sure my progression from getting the Vita early to today would be fun to read through all these Vita threads)
Damn people who have legitimate concerns about a device they care about.
Damn people who respond to posts directed at them too.
Damn anyone who has any negative thoughts about anything ever.
FFT - has minor updates like CG cutscenes and Balthier from FF12. I've heard of lag issues that can was recently addressed by patching it and playing on PSP with cfw, but I'm not aware of whether the lag is present on vita. I've never played the PSP version, but people are expecting that the spring sale tomorrow will drop it to $6.99.
Disgaea - never played Disgaea 2; Disgaea 1 had a glitch that made leveling really easy and made the post-game content more accessible. Not easy per se, but will save you hundreds of hours of grinding and the post-game content is still a challenge. I never truly appreciated that glitch until I tried grinding on Disgaea 3 post trophy patch. Speaking of Disgaea 3, the vita version is coming out April 17 and will include all the DLC as well as a couple characters from Disgaea 4, so keep that in mind.
My recommendation would be Tactics Ogre. Has Tactics Advance aesthetics and play style, multiple characters that require a couple play-throughs to get, and provides a decent challenge.
A lot of those in the post I responded to are already out. Only a few of them are future releases. And some of them we haven't even heard from for a very long time and have no date. Go look at the Japanese release schedules and go look at how Japan is responding to that and how the Vita is doing because of it.
It's not a situation where there are a ton of games and I'm just not interested in them. Saying that there isn't an issue with lack of support is just wrong. Japan itself is telling you that Japanese support is weak right now.
I feel I need to clarify my position. I'm not saying the Vita is doomed. I'm saying I am extremely concerned about the future. That's it. I don't know why that's not allowed.
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