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Playstation All Stars Battle Royale Discussion thread [Up: Leakfest #11]

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Jackben

bitch I'm taking calls.
1P=red
2P=blue
3P=green
4P=yellow

In Smash, 3 and 4 are the other way around, but I just find it funny that they even use the exact same colors.
Looks like Anth0ny has cracked this case of wide open. You've been caught red-handed Sony. How dare you use primary colors in your game.
 

Comet

Member
1P=red
2P=blue
3P=green
4P=yellow

In Smash, 3 and 4 are the other way around, but I just find it funny that they even use the exact same colors.

Those have been somewhat common colors for those player numbers going back to N64 titles. Hell I even remember Wayne Gretzky's 3D hockey having similar colors. OMG Sony copying Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey?!
 

Huff

Banned
it's nice that you didn't know who samus was before metroid prime or that kirby belonged to nintendo, but that actually doesn't have anything to do with the core subject really.

To the average person, which is what most people are talking about when discussing how well known these characters are, samus, fox, and kirby arn't anything more known than some Sony characters.
 
1P=red
2P=blue
3P=green
4P=yellow

In Smash, 3 and 4 are the other way around, but I just find it funny that they even use the exact same colors.

Yeah dude, they should have used Fuschia, Viridian, Prussian Purple and Ochre. Completely ignore perfectly good design sense so they're not using colours that Smash Bros. invented.

It could have been neat to label players by PS Button colours and icons, but that might be needlessly confusing and still, those colours aren't as recognizable on a flash background than basic primary colours.
 
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Isn't that a Wii behind the woman ?
 
Yeah, no. They are not big. Until lately i never even heard of Fox, and i started gaming on the Atari.


Don´t be a dick, junior.


Did you start playign Atari when it first came out or did you dad dust it off for you when you were old enough to play games?

Whether you like a character or not, even if you've never heard of them... If millions upon millions of other people do know them. Then that character is considered big... agreed?

Starfox not only brought 3d graphics to the home consoles, it also brought rumble technology in its sequel.
Maybe you know Samus by her other name... Metroid :p



To the average person, which is what most people are talking about when discussing how well known these characters are, samus, fox, and kirby arn't anything more known than some Sony characters.

I agree with this. But why do we care about the average person. The average person doesnt know any of these characters so why would they buy a game with them all in it.

Now the average game player may not know everyone but they may learn to like a few of them in the process. People didnt know who Kid Icarus was until they played Smash.

So I see good things For PSBR bringing old characters back into the limelight.

Hopefully we can get some new games if they become popular
 
You guys realize that sooner or later mods are going to enact a "No SSB Comparisons" rule in this thread, right?

Too much derailing. I wanna talk about potential characters, trophies and levels -- not Nintendo.
 

KalBalboa

Banned
So what characters would be the hardest to get for Battle Royale but are still, nevertheless, necessities?

Crash, Spyro & Cloud? Snake seems like he wont be hard to get, or even a Resident Evil character or two (looking at the Street Fighter/Cole factor).
 

Jackben

bitch I'm taking calls.
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Isn't that a Wii behind the woman ?
They're coping straight from the source! Lifting huge amounts of code right from the Smash Bros disc I bet. More damning evidence. I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo pursue a cease and desist after this. Good job guys, good investigation.
 

Nilaul

Member
Dear sony why do you hate color so much? Why cant green be green and dullgreen. Why cant purple be purple and not dull purple.
 

KingK

Member
uh, i don't know when you grew up but everyone and their dog in my neighborhood knew who kirby was before smash bros came out. kirby was a very popular nintendo character and he's not really a character i'd list as "B" tier. everyone also knew who fox mccloud was since you know... star fox snes and SF64, one of the earliest games released. samus was also well know.

come to think of it, the only two that could be considered obscure at the time were 1) C.Falcon, and that's a stretch to call him obscure, and 2) Ness, which is fair to call him relatively obscure

so what i guess im trying to say, and don't take this the wrong way, but you're dumb

And, don't take this the wrong way, but you're full of shit.

I never once said that nobody knew who Fox, Samus, etc. were. I said they were nowhere near the same level of recognition as Mario, DK, and Pokemon. I said they were on a similar level of recognition as Nathan Drake and Kratos. So unless you think that nobody knows who those two are, then I don't see how you could misconstrue my statement to mean that Samus and Fox were nobodies, unless you're just trying to manufacture outrage.

As for Kirby, I was born in '92 and nobody I knew had any idea who Kirby was until Smash Bros.
 

cednym

Banned
So what characters would be the hardest to get for Battle Royale but are still, nevertheless, necessities?

Crash, Spyro & Cloud? Snake seems like he wont be hard to get, or even a Resident Evil character or two (looking at the Street Fighter/Cole factor).

Someone from Grand Theft Auto would make a lot of sense, but I don't know how willing Rockstar would be to license their characters out.
 

Misterhbk

Member
You guys realize that sooner or later mods are going to enact a "No SSB Comparisons" rule in this thread, right?

Too much derailing. I wanna talk about potential characters, trophies and levels -- not Nintendo.

This.

I see everyone asking for Cloud and Sephiroth and while I'd love to see them both in, I also wouldn't mind if It was Lightning representing Final Fantasy instead.
 

Zen

Banned
Personally I'd like to see:

BOUNCE SYSTEM Have it tied to your AP bar, and that way using a super is also a risk/reward because it will drain your AP bar and make you more vulnerable to ring outs.

More Open stages with more hazards causing KOs The fish in Jaks stage should be a 1 hit KO like it is in his game. This will help create tension with the stages.

MORE MECHANICS FOR EVADING SUPERS or supers should be toned down slightly. Since a super hit is an auto KO, they should be more skill based on both the part of the player doing them, and the ability of the people on the receiving end to avoid them. Things like Sweet Tooths level 3, or Fat Princess, seemed impossible to deal with.
 
So what characters would be the hardest to get for Battle Royale but are still, nevertheless, necessities?

Crash, Spyro & Cloud? Snake seems like he wont be hard to get, or even a Resident Evil character or two (looking at the Street Fighter/Cole factor).

I really don't think Sony would want to hunt for too many third-party characters to be honest; it might detract from the focus of the first-party cast, which is ideally what they'd want to be pushing. 4 characters seems reasonable - Cloud, Kazuma, Crash, Lara Croft, and maybe just leave it at that.
 
So what characters would be the hardest to get for Battle Royale but are still, nevertheless, necessities?

Crash, Spyro & Cloud? Snake seems like he wont be hard to get, or even a Resident Evil character or two (looking at the Street Fighter/Cole factor).

I know it's been mentioned before but:
Kazuma_ps2.jpg

Seems like it'd make perfect sense.
 

chris121580

Member
darn you're right i need 200 posts before i can start being a dick

setting that example hardcore i see O great elder

I give it a month before you're banned. There's a right way to make a point and a wrong way...you continue to insist on using the wrong way. That's not going to get you very far around here
 

ShadowOS

Banned
To the average person, which is what most people are talking about when discussing how well known these characters are, samus, fox, and kirby arn't anything more known than some Sony characters.
"ARE" or "WERE"

because im talking about WERE. smash bros did not make samus, fox and kirby popular. they were well-known beforehand. that's my point. i have said nothing negative of the popularity of the sony franchises then and now. really as for current day (as in ARE), i can wholeheartedly agree that some of the franchises are relative to some of nintendos offerings in terms of "known".

when melee was released in NA, who the fuck knew who marth and roy were? didn't stop anyone from enjoying the additions to the game or the game itself. am i talking about those characters? nope. am i talking about sony characters? nope. just samus, fox and kirby back then.
 

MrDenny

Member
Honestly, I don't see whats the big deal if it looks similar to smash.
It's not like its the first time game companies "copy" each other.

Street Fighter/Guilty Gear/King of Fighters
Guitar Hero/Rock Band/Rock Revolution
Singstar/Lips/Karaoke Revolution
FPS games
 
Schrödinger's cat;37355071 said:
I know it's been mentioned before but:
Kazuma_ps2.jpg

Seems like it'd make perfect sense.

Kazuma's level 3 move would probably elevate the game to a Mature rating. It would involve his knee, his opponent's face and then a floor... preferably made out of concrete.
 

Shiggy

Member
Then why even bring it up in the first place? You downplay the significance of the Playstation brand by stating that it "doesn't stand a chance" against Nintendo, and then back-pedal your condescending remark by saying that a Sony fan service game like Battle Royale is justified after all.

And I'm not sure what you're insinuating, but I own a Wii and 360, years before purchasing a PS3 in fact, so I'm no frothing fanboy like some here today proved to be when Battle Royale was unveiled. So I'm perfectly entitled to post on here thank you very much.

You are indicating that I am not allowed to draw comparisons between the popularity of Nintendo franchises compared to Sony franchises when this is completely valid in this case. I also pointed out why, so please go back a few pages and trace that back. I don't feel the need to explain everything twice when you seem to deliberately ignore those arguments because you do not like them.
 

chris121580

Member
when melee was released in NA, who the fuck knew who marth and roy were? didn't stop anyone from enjoying the additions to the game or the game itself. am i talking about those characters? nope. am i talking about sony characters? nope. just samus, fox and kirby back then.
Which brings up a great point...why are you talking about these characters when they have absolutely nothing to do with the game? Take your trolling elsewhere
 
So what characters would be the hardest to get for Battle Royale but are still, nevertheless, necessities?

Crash, Spyro & Cloud? Snake seems like he wont be hard to get, or even a Resident Evil character or two (looking at the Street Fighter/Cole factor).

Really hope FF is represented along with Lara Croft (Does Squenix own TR now?).
Segas characters need to be in too. Definitely Yakuza and Valkyria hopefully.

And I have a feeling a lot of people like myself hoping for obscure-low key characters from certain games will likely be disappointed. I imagine only a few of those characters will make the cut.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Which brings up a great point...why are you talking about these characters when they have absolutely nothing to do with the game? Take your trolling elsewhere

I've been following his argument and it started in response to someone else, he didn't just bring them up out of nowhere. He isn't trolling...calm down.
 

Misterhbk

Member
"ARE" or "WERE"

because im talking about WERE. smash bros did not make samus, fox and kirby popular. they were well-known beforehand. that's my point. i have said nothing negative of the popularity of the sony franchises then and now. really as for current day (as in ARE), i can wholeheartedly agree that some of the franchises are relative to some of nintendos offerings in terms of "known".

when melee was released in NA, who the fuck knew who marth and roy were? didn't stop anyone from enjoying the additions to the game or the game itself. am i talking about those characters? nope. am i talking about sony characters? nope. just samus, fox and kirby back then.
I was a kid when the original smash bros came out. I didn't know a lot of the characters, other than mario and company. Did I still enjoy the game? Yes, I loved it. It was because of that game that I learned who star fox, metroid and so on we're. Did the game make me want to go out and buy a star fox game? No. But I still enjoyed the character within smash bros.

It'll probably be the same for this game. Sure there are a lot of characters people may not know of. No one is gonna become a huge fat princess fan because of this game but that doesn't mean they can't enjoy her being in this game. Same goes for any other characters that make it in.
 

Mlatador

Banned
I just watched the trailer and realized:

- how much I love color.
- how geniunly charming Nintendo Characters are.

I also wonder: How imporant is color for lighthearted game concepts like SMB or for lighthearted game concepts in general?
 

KevinCow

Banned
Hey guys.

Kratos is in Mortal Kombat. Cole is in SFxT. Sony clearly has a close relationship with both WB and Capcom.

Sony. Come on. Get Ryu and Scorpion so I can make them fight. You have to.
 

Hero

Member
Just watched that first Gametrailers video and the whole they're like "this mechanic is KIND OF like Smash Bros but it's different because _______."

The super system sounds pretty broken, at least the way he described Parappa's Level 3. Being able to kill every opponent no matter where they are on the stage or in relation to your own character doesn't sound like a really fun implementation for a fighting game.
 
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