joshwaan
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My next ban is perma, though.
lherre basically confirmed that it's not 2GB.
BP, can you link me to his post regarding this please?
My next ban is perma, though.
lherre basically confirmed that it's not 2GB.
lherre basically confirmed that it's not 2GB.
Fine, here you go: Maybe they could, but they probably won't. They'll license an operating system. My money is on Integrity.Yes, very smug non answer, well done.
Any chance of actually answering it now?
Fine, here you go: Maybe they could, but they probably won't. They'll license an operating system. My money is on Integrity.
Agreed but he was "comparing" it with the IPAD/other tablets, in regards to web browsing.
I'm not so sure the WiiU will replace my -shitty- Archos70IT for sofa browsing.
It was recent.yeah but that was ages ago.
Remind me later. Searching for it on my phone would be a pain.BP, can you link me to his post regarding this please?
Nothing wrong with seeing the glass half full I guess.I remember the line that everyone reacted that way to and I didn't get that from his statement. It sounded almost like was overreacting for fun: "Huh? 2GB? What? Huh? Where am I? Who are you people?" I couldn't really take it as a denial of any sort. Heck, I might have even thought it was a confirmation...
I'm guessing that you haven't seen Windows 8 or OS X Mountain Lion.Here's the problem I have with the Android rumor:
Isn't the Wii U effectively a closed-box PC?
Why use a mobile-centric OS in a PC? That's like installing Windows Phone 7 series or iOS on your desktop. Does it even have the resources necessary to handle high-end graphics cards?
Not quite. He was basically saying people expecting between 2 and 4 crazy.My next ban is perma, though.
lherre basically confirmed that it's not 2GB.
I'm guessing that you haven't seen Windows 8 or OS X Mountain Lion.
It doesn't matter how powerful the console is when you have a resistive touch screen.
Can't imagine "smooth" browsing with anything other than capacitive.
Thing is: Android is just a collection of software and libraries running on Linux, not really an "operating system" in itself. And Integrity, like Linux, has no graphical user interface, no user interface toolkits, no clipboard handling, no browser - nothing. Outside of the Windows and OSX world, you can have ten systems running ten completely different operating systems and the user would think they're all the same - or the other way around.Thanks
Also on my phone, sorry. The search feature is still not fully featured for mobile.False. Like the new Xbox 360 Dashboard/Home Menu, I dislike it immensely. That big-box-icon interface is fine for a mobile device, but a desktop? No thank you.
AceBandage: give me the original lherre post(s), please, if you can.
I think that it was inclusive. That's just the way I see it.Not quite. He was basically saying people expecting between 2 and 4 crazy.
Still 2 would be an absolute best case.
Thing is: Android is just a collection of software and libraries running on Linux, not really an "operating system" in itself. And Integrity, like Linux, has no graphical user interface, no user interface toolkits, no clipboard handling, no browser - nothing. Outside of the Windows and OSX world, you can have ten systems running ten completely different operating systems and the user would think they're all the same. Or the other way around.
Thing is: Android is just a collection of software and libraries running on Linux, not really an "operating system" in itself. And Integrity, like Linux, has no graphical user interface, no user interface toolkits, no clipboard handling, no browser - nothing. Outside of the Windows and OSX world, you can have ten systems running ten completely different operating systems and the user would think they're all the same. Or the other way around.
So who else is in favor of a totally open HW system/OS/boot loader? Keep the online/patches/updates secure, but the system itself and what you can do with it totally open to user options. That would be a great console.
It'll never happen, but I can dream.
I think that it was inclusive. That's just the way I see it.
I just pray that he meant RAM for games and not total RAM.
Thing is: Android is just a collection of software and libraries running on Linux, not really an "operating system" in itself. And Integrity, like Linux, has no graphical user interface, no user interface toolkits, no clipboard handling, no browser - nothing. Outside of the Windows and OSX world, you can have ten systems running ten completely different operating systems and the user would think they're all the same - or the other way around.
Can't imagine "smooth" browsing with anything other than capacitive.
We've seen how that worked out for sony.
I really do miss rocking the command line to do any and everything these days. And sadly most of the youth these days are such spoon fed Windows babies they never learned the command line (Unix/Dos or otherwise). I'm actually considering teaching another *nix class over the summer!
Yet even the shell is just an application running on top of the operating system, not part of the operating system itself.I really do miss rocking the command line to do any and everything these days. And sadly most of the youth these days are such spoon fed Windows babies they never learned the command line (Unix/Dos or otherwise). I'm actually considering teaching another *nix class over the summer!
Shut it. I don't even want to think of the disaster that would be Wii U only having a gig of RAM... Just let me dream.Hey. You can always count on nintendo to fuck at least one thing up. Developers most requested feature for the upcoming gen seems to be RAM, so it figures they'd cheap out. I hope not though. But ninty nailing everything just seems too good to be true.
Thing is: Android is just a collection of software and libraries running on Linux, not really an "operating system" in itself. And Integrity, like Linux, has no graphical user interface, no user interface toolkits, no clipboard handling, no browser - nothing. Outside of the Windows and OSX world, you can have ten systems running ten completely different operating systems and the user would think they're all the same - or the other way around.
Shut it. I don't even want to think of the disaster that would be Wii U only having a gig of RAM... Just let me dream.
Shut it. I don't even want to think of the disaster that would be Wii U only having a gig of RAM... Just let me dream.
So wheres your problem?
Haha, yeah.
But to be fair the PS3 was never totally open to any nerd to play with it on the metal. Sony actually wanted it to be too secure (imo), instead of just capitalizing on the idea of a open creative environment.
Mainly I just want to see some version of Dolphin be able to run on Wii U, and to not get banned from NiN for using it.
Who said I have a problem?
I just prefer capacitive over resistive, especially for web browsing.
But only going tri-core and not a full gen leap could already be counted as where they drop the ball. Hell, third parties would feel that even 2GB is too little. Why do I have to believe that it'll be even worse? At that stage, I might as well believe that it'll be weaker than 360...Well you better starting thinking. Anything is possible.
But only going tri-core and not a full gen leap could already be counted as where they drop the ball. Hell, third parties would feel that even 2GB is too little. Why do I have to believe that it'll be even worse? At that stage, I might as well believe that it'll be weaker than 360...
Full android...hell no. Enough of a layer to make porting of android games trivial? That I could believe. Using that same layer to provide a framework to run their GUI. Maybe.Believing Android on any Nintendo platform is smoking crack. Bad crack. That's some crazy joo joo nonsense. Like Nintendo would ever let an open platform anywhere near their own meticulously controlled environment.
Yet even the shell is just an application running on top of the operating system, not part of the operating system itself.
BP, Ace, I think this was lherre's latest comment on the RAM, from back when there was some crazy speculation going on with the numbers:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37235984&postcount=11052
I swear, I need to start trusting my hunches more. I said 349 from day 1, but as usual later started waffling on it...
"K Is For Kitty, M Is For Murder."
Then I can tell you with 1000% accuracy that this scenario will never happen. At least not officially.
Given how the 3DS is clamped down, and how the Wii and the DS were basically piracy heaven, losing them and 3rd parties a shitload of money, let alone ruined their efforts in online etc, we won't see an open WiiU. If anything, they'll open their rules to content providers, but not to the end user. The fact that they're actively planning to have SD Cards and USB HDDs is allready open standard enough for what I expected them to do.
Well, it's what people call the "OS" - even though it isn't. Not that it matters. Thing is that Android was designed for a class of devices Wii U isn't part of. For what Nintendo does, they could get away with bolting WebKit directly on top of Integrity and calling it a day.I know what you're saying.
But for all intents and purposes what the end user sees and interacts with is the OS, doesn't really make much difference to what's sitting behind that.
512 MB of ram, here we come!Well you better starting thinking. Anything is possible.
Who said I have a problem?
I just prefer capacitive over resistive, especially for web browsing.
I've heard this oddly specific idea before somewhere.
512 MB of ram, here we come!
LOL, Humanity always moves in this direction, soon enough we will all talk about how we miss keyboards and web browser address bars... Command line OSes still exist too, but of course we all use Windows/Linuxwgui/macos because it's faster, feels more intuitive, if you want to blame anyone for current GUIs blame the creator of the mouse. Don't know why I'm going on about this, just that comment sounded like a hipster.
Personally I am glad Wii U comes with a tablet though, it should take interfaces on home consoles to their logical conclusion.
Would be nice to give some information in why thats the case for you. Because i can´t come up with a valid reason.
Apparently you don't remember the early days of Android, which didn't even support multitouch (there was fear that Apple had all the multitouch patents and would sue them if they used it). It's definitely not "optimized" for multitouch and has plenty of support for doing everything with single-touch devices. And as I said, it wouldnt have access to any third party app store, just Nintendo's own app store. And if an app is written for Wii-U, it would have no need for multitouch, with all the controls on the unit.1. Andoird is optimized for capacitive multitouch input (and so are games, apps, etc.)
BP, can you link me to his post regarding this please?
This is correct. Learned that from my Unix class. A lot of shit uses a custom Linux, except Apple, that's just Linux with a fruit slapped on it.
what was going on the last days anything new (about Wii U).
I only went through the last pages and saw some...ehh...urgh...conversation about brownies and how to make them...kind of...special....
...and then something about the android OS and now again there is the RAM talk back.
So do we have anything new about it?
I only read somewhere that Iwata wants to release detailed specs on E3 but not the price and that with the Wii U the company is aiming definately the core market first and later on at mass-market to not make the same misstake like with the Wii.