so glad Banner and Stark got to nerd up. it's been a long time coming. if only Spider-Man could join in. D:
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Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]
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so glad Banner and Stark got to nerd up. it's been a long time coming. if only Spider-Man could join in. D:
XiaNaphryz
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The movie's been out for over a week in the rest of the world, and there hasn't really been a ton of backlash from there yet from people who've had more time to reflect on the film and possibly see it more than once. And from what I've seen, most people here that liked the film are well aware of the film's shortcomings. If anything, we didn't really start seeing a lot of backlash until the box office numbers were announced. Which is par for the course really around here.
RoninChaos
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At least death would have some nice ass titties. lol
I still love this movie. Whoever didn't enjoy it obviously is living in a joyless existence. lol
lazybones18
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no need for makeup, har har
Welcome to the club bro.
RubxQub
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So dumb question:
When Banner shows up on the bike is about to take on the flying worm thing head on...but is still in Banner form, he goes "I've got a secret...I'm always angry." then he immediately transitions into Hulk-mode.
Is that meant to imply that he's been in control of the hulk the entire time and he only lost it on the airship because of the staff? Just not sure what's changed that allows him to control the monster all of a sudden.
Didn't see any of the Hulk movies or know much about Hulk lore, so bear with me.
When Banner shows up on the bike is about to take on the flying worm thing head on...but is still in Banner form, he goes "I've got a secret...I'm always angry." then he immediately transitions into Hulk-mode.
Is that meant to imply that he's been in control of the hulk the entire time and he only lost it on the airship because of the staff? Just not sure what's changed that allows him to control the monster all of a sudden.
Didn't see any of the Hulk movies or know much about Hulk lore, so bear with me.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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I'm the only person hyped for Battleship aren't I? lol
The Dictator is so infuriating because if they had just done like Idi Amin Dada A Self Portrait or Uncle Saddam it could be a magnificent movie.
I'd LOVE to see it with a group of friends I went to college with...you know I might just try that.
Yes. To elaborate, I think his past experiences (suicide etc.) may have helped him embrace the other guy and keep him under control most of the time and avoid any incidents.
I think you've got it right.
lazybones18
Banned
Nope. I can't wait for battleships to be sunk
Yes that is exactly what it's meant to imply. Also the fact that he grabs the Staff and seems like he's about to transform on the Helicarrier before it gets blow'd up.
This was one of my only negative opinions of the movie. They barely touched at all on why he can now suddenly control himself when he is The Hulk. I mean, they hinted around at it, but it was almost like someone just flipped a switch and now he can control it.
megashock5
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I can't get into the Ultimate stuff, or most of the current stuff, honestly. I highly recommend Infinity Gauntlet though. I had been away from comics for a few years when it came out, I happened across the first two issues and it got me back into it. Great story, with so much of the Marvel Universe involved.
Infinity Wars is decent, but not up to Gauntlet.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Yeah, I'm not expecting art, hell not even Battle LA (which I really think was a great movie), I 'm looking for Aliens fighting Battleships and the Navy...and how they explain Battleships being in the US fleet. lol
I don't think the staff had an impact on the rage. I think he was hurt and the Hulk was an automatic response. Remember he said he tried to kill himself and the Hulk took over. I know guys who swear the staff caused it but I disagree. i'll wait for Whedon to answer that question.
soundscream
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He lost control because of the explosion, the staff was making everyone agitated but after the explosion he loses control, its a self defense mechanism. He can only control the Hulk when he willingly changes.
Banana Kid
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Hasn't it already made like $150 million overseas? As bad as it probably is, it seems to be successful.
The Technomancer
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Funky Papa
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Their technobabble hurt my brain.
200M and counting.
shanshan310
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Why are you hyped? Hasn't it been out for ages?
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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I live in the US! lol
As a joke I was thinking of getting the Kindle copy of the Tie in Novel lol
MOVIE OF THE FOREVER
Even with my ridiculouse hype, reading too many spoilers (like the 1st Act one), and watching the trailers far too many times, I still came out of the theater extremely satisfied. Marvel did it. Sumbitches really fucking did it. The 4yr wait was worth it.
Marvel/Whedon nailed what an Avengers movie should be. From the character interactions (Stark & Banner!), to the humor, to on-screen action; this movie hit all the right keys. And I don't agree with the "No Sense of Danger" complaint being thrown around. Sure, you had to know going in that no Avenger would die, but then enemies put up a good fight. Good enough where the Avengers had to fight as a team to win. My only complaint is that the movie needed more Hulk
Also, I watched the movie twice, both IMAX 3D. The Friday night crowd was less rowdy than the Sat night crowd. Neither audience seemed to care about any of the trailers (TDKR, Spiderman, Prometheus) that much. TDKR got a slightly better response, but no one seemed to know WTF Prometheus was about.
thank you for these
Even with my ridiculouse hype, reading too many spoilers (like the 1st Act one), and watching the trailers far too many times, I still came out of the theater extremely satisfied. Marvel did it. Sumbitches really fucking did it. The 4yr wait was worth it.
Marvel/Whedon nailed what an Avengers movie should be. From the character interactions (Stark & Banner!), to the humor, to on-screen action; this movie hit all the right keys. And I don't agree with the "No Sense of Danger" complaint being thrown around. Sure, you had to know going in that no Avenger would die, but then enemies put up a good fight. Good enough where the Avengers had to fight as a team to win. My only complaint is that the movie needed more Hulk
Also, I watched the movie twice, both IMAX 3D. The Friday night crowd was less rowdy than the Sat night crowd. Neither audience seemed to care about any of the trailers (TDKR, Spiderman, Prometheus) that much. TDKR got a slightly better response, but no one seemed to know WTF Prometheus was about.
Case in point. Also;
:')
Oh and serious bromance between these two,
And IRL too, some of their interviews together are hilarious. Real chemistry between this flock I think. Which is quite lucky.
thank you for these
Except before the explosion he was about to Hulk out while holding Loki's staff. It was obviously doing more than just agitating him.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Avengers Domestic Total is 207.1!
http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/avenger-update-205m-record-domestic/
http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/avenger-update-205m-record-domestic/
Hot damn. An extra few million for good measure.
This seemed pretty apparent to me.
And it's not like he could fully control it. He could just direct it better. Hulk was still occasionally punching his teammates and stuff.
FUBAR McDangles
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I believe he's talking about Battleship, which has made just over $200 million.
I could be wrong on what he's talking about though.
Hulk suckerpunching Thor was so hilarious.
RubxQub
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To me the staff had to be doing something, since the whole scene with Loki captured was just implying all over the place (and then directly presenting) the fact that Loki's reason for getting captured in the first place was to force Banner to Hulk out on the ship and destroy it.
- When Loki passes Bruce in the lab he gives him a shit-eating grin
- When Scarlet is interogating him the final takeaway that she discovers is that Banner Hulking out was his ploy
- When they are arguing the staff is made central to the scene and ends with Banner holding it as he's furious
- When the Hulk finally does appear, Loki grins as if his plan succeeded
I don't think Loki's plan was to just show up and that alone would be enough to incite the Hulk. I'm thinking the staff had to be central to that plan.
- When Loki passes Bruce in the lab he gives him a shit-eating grin
- When Scarlet is interogating him the final takeaway that she discovers is that Banner Hulking out was his ploy
- When they are arguing the staff is made central to the scene and ends with Banner holding it as he's furious
- When the Hulk finally does appear, Loki grins as if his plan succeeded
I don't think Loki's plan was to just show up and that alone would be enough to incite the Hulk. I'm thinking the staff had to be central to that plan.
No, you're right, I'm sorry, I made my point too concisely
Battleship earned $200 million outside of North America in roughly a month; Avengers earned $641.8 million worldwide in 12 days, and surpassed the worldwide take for Battleship so far with its domestic numbers over opening weekend alone.
Not saying it won't make a ton of money of course, but it's been preemptively blown out of the water (heh, I'm not usually this clever before lunch).
edit: You guys are absolutely right about the staff having an impact on that scene. Whether or not it's necessary for Hulk to go into berserker/mindless mode isn't made clear in the film (what if someone just starts suddenly shooting him until normal circumstances?) but the staff was very, very clearly affecting everyone in the scene. Even though they were arguing about legitimate things, everyone was coming undone. Cap and Stark normally have much better self-control even pissed (well, unless Tony is drunk). Thor really sold it with "you humans are so petty... and tiny."
shanshan310
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Its not out there?!
LOL, they actually made a novel!?!?
If you don't take the movie seriously it's fairly funny. If you do take it seriously there are plot holes and a "rah rah we're Americans shoot everything!" theme that kinda detract from the plot. That's all I'm saying. But hey, Alexander Skarsgard is hot, so it certainly has that in its favour
lazybones18
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Come on $210 Million!
Banana Kid
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No, you're right, I'm sorry, I made my point too concisely
Battleship earned $200 million outside of North America in roughly a month; Avengers earned $641.8 million worldwide in 12 days, and surpassed the worldwide take for Battleship so far with its domestic numbers over opening weekend alone.
Not saying it won't make a ton of money of course, but it's been preemptively blown out of the water (heh, I'm not usually this clever before lunch).
Of course, I was never arguing Battleship was somehow going to unseat Avengers. I'm just saying it's not the flop it so badly deserves to be.
Look forward to Battleship 2: Dark Of The Sea in 2014, I guess. Good on ya, moviegoing public.
soundscream
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Yeah its not full control. Like in The Incredible Hulk he said he might be able to point the Hulk in a direction, and the last shot shows him mastering his controlled anger technique. But he is still vulnerable to the unexpected rage change.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Not till the 18th.
Yeah I saw it in the Comic Previews
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0345535375/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I'm good at doing that. Then again I thought Battle LA was a legit good movie, which I get the feeling is not a common opinion.
I grew up with 1980s action movies, I'm fine with that."rah rah we're Americans shoot everything!" theme that kinda detract from the plot. That's all I'm saying. But hey, Alexander Skarsgard is hot, so it certainly has that in its favour
It was quite entertaining little movie.
I also really dug the subtle explanation of how his crazy rotating equip-quiver worked. When he's all out of arrows on the roof he grabs the one he shot out of the skull of the Chitauri next to him, puts it back into the quiver and converts it to a grappling-hook arrow and uses that to make his escape. boss
Not till the 18th.
Yeah I saw it in the Comic Previews
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0345535375/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I'm good at doing that. Then again I thought Battle LA was a legit good movie, which I get the feeling is not a common opinion.
I grew up with 1980s action movies, I'm fine with that.
I think you'll enjoy Battleship. I went in with low expectations and though it was entertaining.
Yeah, during the movie I didn't realize what the mechanism in Hawkeye's quiver was doing. I didn't figure out til I thought about it later.
EXPLODING ARROW! FREEZE SHOT! SCATTER SHOT! TRIPLE ARROW! POISON ARROW!
Yeah, it was pretty apparent he could control the Hulk, or direct it, when in Incredible Hulk he saves his chickadee from mass explosions.
There's a toggle switch control thing on the bow for changing the arrowhead. I only saw it for a split second in that scene. Totally bad ass.
Why do people have such a hard on for Ant Man.
He has never been an interesting character to me, and the only interesting things he had was when he was a wife beating douche.
Avengers have Stark and Banner as their token brains.
Pym just does not strike me as someone who would be interesting on film, even if it may lead to Ultron.
He has never been an interesting character to me, and the only interesting things he had was when he was a wife beating douche.
Avengers have Stark and Banner as their token brains.
Pym just does not strike me as someone who would be interesting on film, even if it may lead to Ultron.
My problem with Battleship is not that it's extremely high-CGI, mindless Michael Bay loud-splosion action; it's that the source material it's "drawing" from is a fucking board game, unlike Transformers which actually had, you know, characters and stakes that made sense to incorporate into a movie.
It just smacks of "lowest-concept action film ever." And I am not at all against mindless action on principle.
It just smacks of "lowest-concept action film ever." And I am not at all against mindless action on principle.
Is this a UMvC3 reference? I should really put some time into that now. No real other modern way to play as the Avengers...
Speedymanic
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Dat 3d tax.
Those bringing up Rises, I have to ask...why? Rises, as far as I know, won't have a 3d release, so it's unlikely to pass this OW total anyway. The real test is now to see if it has legs, which I suspect Rises will have...this might not. (pure speculation on my part)
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