Juice is nowhere near as bad as soda, you guys are nuts.
Real juice is nutritious and good for you, and has natural sugars.
Soda contains caffeine, carbonic acid, refined sugars, and worst of all, phosphoric acid which actually deteriorates your bone density and destroy vitamins and minerals. The phosphoric acid destroys Vitamin D and can make your bones brittle and lead to osteoperosis.
Does juice do all that?
Naturalistic fallacy. "Natural sugars" vs "refined sugars" is irrelevant, look at the chemical composition.
The concern here is obesity. Relevant to that concern are two things:
-The empty liquid calories from the sugar water you're drinking that don't grant you any measure of satiety, so get added on top of your daily intake.
-The fructose content, which can mess with your appetite mechanisms and also gets metabolized directly into body fat.
They're both sugar water, with similar calories and similar amounts of fructose. Psychologically, fruit juice can be even worse, when you think you're drinking something healthy just because it has vitamins and it's derived from fruit, so you don't exercise any restraint.
No. Whole fruit generally is fine to consume because you're gaining satiety from it, it generally doesn't have much sugar per serving, and the sugar it does have is mitigated to some degree by the fiber. Try eating three whole oranges vs drinking a glass of orange juice. One you can do in ten seconds in the middle of a 1500 calorie meal, and the other is a meal.