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The Wii U Speculation Thread VI: The Undiscovered Country

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Izick

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Also, I don't think that the leap to the PS4 or Nextbox is going to be a next-gen leap. At least not in the way that you're painting it. It's not going to be as big as PS2 to PS3. I thought that this has been said, and then explained by numerous people?
 

MisterHero

Super Member
Anyone still believe that WiiU will be demonstrably better then PS360? A generational leap?
IMO the HD twins were between 1.5-2 times a generation leap. I don't expect a giant leap like from PS2 to PS3, and I probably shouldn't expect the same for PS4 and Xbox 3.

If Wii U doesn't match Xbox 3 and PS4, big deal. It's already way more than enough to deliver compelling games.
 

cyberheater

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cyberheater's first post in thread VI, everyone!
Welcome to the party!

You didn't post at all in thread V, one might think you weren't interested :(

LOL. I've been trying to keep out of the madness.

I still can't believe with two weeks to go we've still got little to go on. Those Nintendo Ninja's must be deadly.
 

Izick

Member
IMO the HD twins were between 1.5-2 times a generation leap. I don't expect a giant leap like from PS2 to PS3, and I probably shouldn't expect the same for PS4 and Xbox 3.

If Wii U doesn't match Xbox 3 and PS4, big deal. It's already way more than enough to deliver compelling games.

All I want is multiplatform games. I don't care if they have as many particle effects, all I ask is that they're semi-competent compared to the other systems, that's key. PS2 multiplats always looked worse than the Xbox, or even Gamecube versions, but they always sold way more; I'm hoping that's the Wii U's situation. That kind of graphical difference is fine with me.
 
I'm not posting in that thread again, its baiting and they know it.

EC saying there is nothing unreasonable about what Vigil is saying is reaching because those guys seem to be covering up plain laziness to me but whatever

there are so many reasons for all ports just to use the same assets as PS360 to WiiU without any improvements. This does not mean WiiU = PS360 but for some reason Eurogamer and Vigil keep shouting this from the mountain tops we just have to wait and see - when Nintendo starts embarrassing 3rd parties maybe they will try harder

It use this as an excuse not to give the Wii U multuplats...
 

cyberheater

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IMO the HD twins were between 1.5-2 times a generation leap. I don't expect a giant leap like from PS2 to PS3, and I probably shouldn't expect the same for PS4 and Xbox 3.

If Wii U doesn't match Xbox 3 and PS4, big deal. It's already way more than enough to deliver compelling games.

True but I don't think it's going to be double what we have already. I'm expected more like 1.2x - 1.5x PS360 in terms of performance with maybe better texture resolutions given the expected extra memory.
 

Linkhero1

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Anyone still believe that WiiU will be demonstrably better then PS360? A generational leap?

I'm expecting the Wii U to be 2x the 360. I don't think we'll know how better it is compared to the PS360 until we see some exclusives for the platform. I also feel that the 720/PS4 won't be what everyone's expecting them to be in terms of spec, but they will noticeably be ahead of the Wii U.


I'm glad we're moving to Community tomorrow.

Same. I'll probably be posting a lot less now that this thread is in the community.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
I'm expecting the Wii U to be 2x the 360. I don't think we'll know how better it is compared to the PS360 until we see some exclusives for the platform. I also feel that the 720/PS4 won't be what everyone's expecting them to be in terms of spec, but they will noticeably be ahead of the Wii U.




Same. I'll probably be posting a lot less now that this thread is in the community.

Same here. I usually check gaming forum more often than I do with community and off topic together.
 
Anyone still believe that WiiU will be demonstrably better then PS360? A generational leap?

It will be demonstrably better than the PS360. It will have 2x-3x the RAM at bare minimum. If 3rd parties decide that they won't spend the time/money to use higher resolution textures, or are paid by MS or Sony not to that's a completely different issue.
 

Izick

Member
I've actually been trying to start going through my backlog of games, so I guess I'll still be able to keep up with the thread as well though, so I guess that's a silver lining.
 

Luigison

Member
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What is this from?
 
I don't get how this is a thing. It won't look any different in my subscriptions.
it's just a turn off for reasons that are hard to explain. I already tried to explain it before but I already visit gaming side and OT so much, that I just don't want to visit another place. Occasionally I'll keep the tab open and see if that helps me stay active, but I simply will not visit a 3rd place.

It's hard to explain, but those who are like me totally get it, those who don't...don't.
 

Izick

Member
Pretty much. I frequent all 4 forums every day, no problem.

I think it's basically that a lot less people come in here, besides the regulars, but my arguments to that is that mostly regulars only posted here anyway, so I'm not sure why that would change.
 

BlackJace

Member
Is the community thread like the land of the exiles or something? Lol some of you guys are acting like the thread is finished for good :p
 
Less than two weeks to E3, we're almost there!

I'm glad all the speculation stuff is going to an end shortly, frankly I could not take it anymore, incidentally I'm looking forward to sharing my impressions with all of you while watching the live coverage, if all goes well.
 

Nibel

Member
I've been busy with projects and family stuff :)

Hope everything is fine! I always noticed that most thread pages filled up without the best avatar in any of them :lol

I'll also be posting a lot less. That's just how community goes.

Come on, guys: this thread lives because of its regulars. I'm pretty sure that we will could set a new standard for Community threads since this one will be always be on top and most people will still click it since the subject is interesting. They will sing songs about us in the future and claim that Community is the new Gaming forum.

And of course it would be a lot more boring without some of you.
 

Oddduck

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Less than two weeks to E3, we're almost there!

I'm glad all the speculation stuff is going to an end shortly, frankly I could not take it anymore, incidentally I'm looking forward to sharing my impressions with all of you while watching the live coverage, if all goes well.

Yep, plenty of exciting times are ahead of us. Can't wait for E3. :)

I'm going to, but in the past there was no reason to. It's almost always in the top 10 newest posts whenever you enter Gaming.

Exactly. It was always at the top of the forum so I never felt the need to subscribe.
 

Izick

Member
Another good thing is that the thread likely won't be completely flooded out when E3 rolls around, since community threads see less transients.
 
True but I don't think it's going to be double what we have already. I'm expected more like 1.2x - 1.5x PS360 in terms of performance with maybe better texture resolutions given the expected extra memory.
serious question, like farealz. Does it matter? I would prefer much better graphics as well but overall, big picture wise, it doesn't matter. Regardless of how strong the wiiU is (this is obviously ignoring situations where it would be super super strong because that's pricing suicide), the other 2 will always be stronger. They're coming out later, and will undoubtedly launch at a higher price.

In relation to this current generation, we already know that it will be demonstrably better than this generation. The spot Nintendo is in is what it is, not the hottest spot to be in tech wise, but it's a pretty sweet spot for them.*


*assuming certain devs climb on board
 

HylianTom

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I'm expecting the Wii U to be 2x the 360. I don't think we'll know how better it is compared to the PS360 until we see some exclusives for the platform. I also feel that the 720/PS4 won't be what everyone's expecting them to be in terms of spec, but they will noticeably be ahead of the Wii U.

Same. I'll probably be posting a lot less now that this thread is in the community.
I'm guessing somewhere near 2 or 3x, depending on what specific metrics we're looking at.

Personally, I'd be quite content with 360-level capabilities. Seeing what Nintendo could do in the past decade fills me with confidence in their ability to blow us away with their next piece of kit. After a certain level of visuals, it all seems like a penis-measuring contest to me, providing fodder for baiting us into losing our cool.

I also think people are going to be surprised by the lack of dramatic difference between Wii U and PS720. Oh, but they'll try to dramatize it, believe you me, but it's gonna come down to some smallish things. The squabbling and teasing and baiting will continue, and it will look silly.

I'm kinda glad we're moving. Seems safe.
 
Hope everything is fine! I always noticed that most thread pages filled up without the best avatar in any of them :lol

Come on, guys: this thread lives because of its regulars. I'm pretty sure that we will could set a new standard for Community threads since this one will be always be on top and most people will still click it since the subject is interesting. They will sing songs about us in the future and claim that Community is the new Gaming forum.

And of course it would be a lot more boring without some of you.
I will try :(

Is the community thread like the land of the exiles or something? Lol some of you guys are acting like the thread is finished for good :p
there's been a few threads I was heavily active in like wrassle gaf, and just cold turkey stopped since moving to community. Unless you keep the community tab open you'll miss half the discussion and have to catch up like crazy. Whereas when a thread is here, I can see every time someone posts so it's easy to jump in and read it because I'm already on the gaming side browsing around. 2 is my max, and I visit OT a lot, so having to go to community just to see when people post is gonna be a bit much, and I think we all know how catching up on a thread like this is.

But alas. I will try.
 

Izick

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serious question, like farealz. Does it matter? I would prefer much better graphics as well but overall, big picture wise, it doesn't matter. Regardless of how strong the wiiU is (this is obviously ignoring situations where it would be super super strong because that's pricing suicide), the other 2 will always be stronger. They're coming out later, and will undoubtedly launch at a higher price.

In relation to this current generation, we already know that it will be demonstrably better than this generation. The spot Nintendo is in is what it is, not the hottest spot to be in tech wise, but it's a pretty sweet spot for them.*


*assuming certain devs climb on board

Like I said earlier, my only concern is that they keep close to the next-generation in terms of graphical power. I'm fine if Wii U games don't look quite as good, like the PS2 to the Xbox. As long as third-party games are still viable on the Wii U, then I'm happy. I guess it's not really under Nintendo's control at this point though.
 

Redford

aka Cabbie
When this thread moves I'm as good as gone, too.

Haha no way :3

I also think people are going to be surprised by the lack of dramatic difference between Wii U and PS720. Oh, but they'll try to dramatize it, believe you me, but it's gonna come down to some smallish things. The squabbling and teasing and baiting will continue, and it will look silly.

Next gen will be about lighting, from what I can see.
 
I'll also be posting a lot less. That's just how community goes.

Hrm. I wonder if this board's software has some sort of "feed" plugin, a page which'd allow people to view all topics as if they were in one flat forum. The SQL query for this would be almost identical to one that generates a topic list per Forum -- in fact, it'd be slightly simpler.

edit: However, keep in mind that if you want a community thread to thrive, all you probably have to do is link back to it when you post a thread in Gaming that spawned from it.
 

BlackJace

Member
At this point, holding our breath until E3 doesn't seem like a bad idea.

It's just the AFTERMATH. Goddamn I don't even want to think about the shitstorm apocalypse that will ensue. Even if the Wii U has a great showing, there's still gonna be hell on the forums. Maybe that's when I should take a week or two off GAF haha.
 
Hrm. I wonder if this board's software has some sort of "feed" plugin, a page which'd allow people to view all topics as if they were in one flat forum. The SQL query for this would be almost identical to one that generates a topic list per Forum -- in fact, it'd be slightly simpler.
it would be perfect if there was a way to have any topic you want appear on any side you want, and it shows there only for you. For instance me being able to keep this thread on the gaming side, even though for everyone who doesn't have it enabled will not see it there.

That would be cool. Get on it GAF admins/andrex :p
 

Skiesofwonder

Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Community threads are pretty much dead to me for Official Topics of games, but just like the NFL and other sports threads, I will continue by usual usage for regular discussion threads.

It's only a click away guys/gals. :p
 
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