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Ash_69

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It's interesting to hear so many picking Bradley to beat pacman. I thought it'd be the only one. Book it now, desert storm is winning that fight. The dude it's hugely underrated because he doesn't have one stand out attribute such as blazing hand speed or knock out power. Pacquiao's ring age is older than his biological age and he's not the same fighter he once was. On that note Mayweather didn't look as fast as he used to against cotto. Alvarez would give him hell. Pac-Mayweather should of happened a couple of years ago.
 
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Baby Milo

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LOL guess who post up on the opposite side

http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/16/floyd-mayweather-gay-marriage-manny-pacquiao/

Floyd Mayweather is squaring off against Manny Pacquiao ... and once again it's NOT in the ring -- this time they're fighting over gay marriage.

With the media still buzzing over Manny's controversial condemnation of gay marriage ... Pretty Boy Floyd released a counter-statement on Twitter ... saying, "I stand behind President Obama & support gay marriage."

He added, "I'm an American citizen & I believe people should live their life the way they want."

These two can't agree on anything ... so we gotta ask ...
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abuC

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Damn, Arum is just raping Manny, how in the world is he only getting a base purse of $6 million to fight Bradley who is getting $5 million.


Why the hell doesn't Manny drop this scumbag, his name is big enough that he doesn't need a promoter in his pocket like this.
 
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see5harp

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The whole Manny/Floyd thing is ridiculous. Floyd made comments as early as the last 24/7 joking about Cotto's sexual orientation. Obama even mentioning that he supported gay marriage is pure PR. Obama should stick to starting wars and Manny and Floyd need to stick to beating people up in the ring. I don't give a fuck what they believe or do in their free time.
 
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NervousXtian

Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Floyd did Riduclusness with Dyrdeck. Funny watching his reactions.

Gotta love Money May, you either love him or hate him, but either way you watch him.

Just wish that it'd turn over more eyes to real fights, but whatever.. boxing is my favorite sport.
 
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walbertsmith

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Damn.

Dan Rafael
‏@danrafaelespn
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I kid not. Just filed to ESPN: Andre Berto tested positive for steroid, putting June 23 fight with Victor Ortiz in jeopardy.
 
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Esch

Banned
berto being on steroids has always been a question of mine

hilarious though, everyones falling apart lol

boxing is in a really dangerous place right now, the powers that need be arent gonna be able to put the bullshit aside to keep it together
 
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x Power Pad Death Stomp x

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Ninja Scooter said:
jesus christ. These boxers and MMA fighters need to hook up with some better masking agents.
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Something seems weird about it, because he was busted for Nandrolone, and that's a pretty dumb thing to be using if you're trying to hide it. Stays in your system for 8 or 9 months and is detected through blood and urine.

Seems like ESPECIALLY working with Conte he would be on better stuff.
 
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Baby Milo

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Arum's view on OST

Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt=printable&id=53144#ixzz1vdRbVJNl
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During a conference call to promote the upcoming fight between Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley, Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, in response to a question, gave his opinion on recent wave of positive drug tests that have killed two major rematches in Andre Berto-Victor Ortiz II and Lamont Peterson vs. Amir Khan II.

Both Berto and Peterson requested Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) testing and both men tested positive for different substances. Berto tested positive for ultra-traces of nandrolone, a powerful yet outdated PED. Peterson tested positive for synthetic testosterone which he claims was due to a testosterone pellet he was injected with by Dr. John A. Thompson of the Desert Oasis Clinic in Las Vegas, NV.

While the Peterson-Khan II fight was called off, costing Golden Boy Promotions an estimated one million dollars, the Ortiz card was saved and will go on as planned, only with Ortiz facing Josesito Lopez.

Arum's company has yet to participate in drug testing beyond the limited parameters of the local commissions. Golden Boy Promotions has now promoted 7 cards with extra testing.

“My position is, is that unless everyone sits down and works this out without rhetoric we will have chaos,” stated Arum. “Personally, I don’t believe Lamont Peterson is a cheater. I don’t think Andre Berto is a cheater. I think that with this sophisticated testing they got caught up in positive tests which doesn’t to me indicate to me the existence of performance enhancing drugs. We have to hear out Lamont Peterson and get his story and we have to hear out Andre Berto and get his story before we jump to conclusions."

“Secondly,” Arum continued. “I don’t believe that anybody would say Peterson had any advantage over Khan or that Berto got any advantage over Victor Ortiz based on the stuff that was found or allegedly found in their urine samples.

Arum is wrong here. While it is true both men deserve to have their cases heard, Peterson was caught with a drug named synthetic testosterone. It is categorically a performance enhancer. It helps with recovery, speed, and strength. In his positive samples, Peterson’s T/E ratio (testosterone to epitestosterone) was found to be 3.77:1. The average is 1:1. Just an opinion, but if Peterson or any boxer’s T/E ratio is nearly four times the limit and the other fighter is 1:1, that’s a distinct performance advantage.

As for Berto, it is true that he had such trace amounts [low] in his system, it is likely he took a supplement that was tainted somehow.

“That being the case, why were those fights called off?” asked Arum? “Why not determine after the fight, if that is what they found, that there performance wouldn’t be enhanced, why not let the fight go on? Maybe fine them for being careless, using certain vitamins that have a trace of steroids. Because you know, if you buy vitamins from the wrong manufacturer who illegally manufactures steroids and some gets on the equipment and gets on the vitamins, it taints the vitamins. That’s not going to enhance performance but it’s enough to come up on a test.”

Arum is correct that nandrolone contamination can occur in that fashion. And perhaps the sport does need to address how to handle positive tests and their results in a fashion quick enough to keep major fights going if no malfeasance on the part of the fighter is determined in time. But boxing is not there yet. Peterson and Berto are the growing pains of a sport that badly needs to be cleaned up.

“So I think that everybody who doesn’t know about this, including myself, should shut the hell up until there is an exploration of what the issues are, what’s happening, and then we can better determine how we can go ahead in the future,” said Arum

In the meantime, while promoters and politicians sit still and wonder about testing, it’s protocols and how to keep from losing money on fighters who test positive for banned substances, everyone should get out of the way and let the drug testers do their work. Just an opinion.
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yikes
 
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JLG-

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Froch vs Bute today at 6pm eastern time.

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If you're in the USA you can get a free legal stream from EpixHD.com
All you need to do is register (It only requires an email address) and you get a 14 day free trial.
 
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Gareth Bale

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I had a quick look at Lucian Bute's record. Unbeaten, IBF champion, etc... has he ever fought anyone good though?

I only recognise Glen Johnson from that list.
 
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