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The Wii U Speculation Thread VI: The Undiscovered Country

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antonz

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i meant the question being 'antonz, aren't you a dev'

see i would have answered just yes or no to be a dick, instead of giving a thoughtful response like you did, hence my reply to your response, and this one explaining it.

Ahh ok now Im following you though not in a stalkerish way. Im trying to keep my dickish posting habits to a minimum since its a stricter time of year around here. That and I am used to inflating answers because it works better career wise to fluff up answers. Yes or No leads to tons more questions

that usually doesn't bode well.

it's especially not good if it's coming from people who were splintered off from making beyond good & evil 2.

It is a bit worrisome to me as well looking at some of these resumes. I cant judge them solely on those but going from Smalltime Facebook style games to lead gameplay programmer on a major console game is one hell of a leap
 

Gahiggidy

My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
I'm thinking somewhere around 20 to 40. So put me down by 30, I guess.

Where's the Wii at on that scale, BTW? Haha..

It starts at 360. So no Wii in sight.

I have a hard time accepting it will be less than 50/half-way to the next Xbox. There's been so much time to improve technology since the 360 was released and, despite the bigger budget for Durango, its releasing only a year after Wii U.


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Btw, I predict the "down ports" of Wii U games from 720/PS4 to look much, much better than the "up ports" from 360/PS3. (Provided an adequate team.budget is assigned to the Wii U version).
 

AniHawk

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Ahh ok now Im following you though not in a stalkerish way. Im trying to keep my dickish posting habits to a minimum since its a stricter time of year around here. That and I am used to inflating answers because it works better career wise to fluff up answers. Yes or No leads to tons more questions

yeah, i can appreciate wanting to keep that sort of anonymity.

It is a bit worrisome to me as well looking at some of these resumes. I cant judge them solely on those but going from Smalltime Facebook style games to lead gameplay programmer on a major console game is one hell of a leap

wow. that's pretty crazy. that actually sounds pretty desperate of them if they're looking for smalltimers.
 
UE4 currently can only run on a multi-GPU setup or a Kepler. Considering Microsoft is only a year out from their next console, we're going to be expecting another mammoth power-sucking $350+ sold-at-a-loss console from them then?
Not sold at a loss, sold with a 2-year contract with monthly fees. They are already experimenting with that with the $99 XBox 360 + Kinect package. It makes sense as a way to stealthily sell people $600 to $700 game consoles.
 

antonz

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Killer Freaks seems to be pulling resources from all over. Im seeing Paris Staff, Singapore, the actual montpellier team etc.
 

Linkhero1

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Killer Freaks seems to be pulling resources from all over. Im seeing Paris Staff, Singapore, the actual montpellier team etc.

I hope this doesn't mean the game will be delayed or turn into a mess. I wasn't really interested in it, but if it turned out to be something along the lines of TimeSplitters then I would probably pick it up.

Not sold at a loss, sold with a 2-year contract with monthly fees. They are already experimenting with that with the $99 XBox 360 + Kinect package. It makes sense as a way to stealthily sell people $600 to $700 game consoles.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out in the end if they do decide to go with this route.
 

AniHawk

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Killer Freaks seems to be pulling resources from all over. Im seeing Paris Staff, Singapore, the actual montpellier team etc.

well that makes it sound like they're giving it heavy importance at least. i wonder if their intention is to replicate the sales of red steel, and actually turn it into a franchise or something.
 

antonz

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well that makes it sound like they're giving it heavy importance at least. i wonder if their intention is to replicate the sales of red steel, and actually turn it into a franchise or something.

I could see them trying to create a franchise thats for the Wii U like they tried with Red Steel and the Wii.

They need to do alot better than the first Red Steel to keep people interested in a sequel though
 
Are people worried about it not supporting UE4 because they really want to see UE4 games (based on the games using UE3 last gen) or because they're worried about the implications on the support it will have in general if it doesn't have the featureset to support it?
 

Fantastical

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I hope this doesn't mean the game will be delayed or turn into a mess. I wasn't really interested in it, but if it turned out to be something along the lines of TimeSplitters then I would probably pick it up.

Wait, is that bad news?

Are people worried about it not supporting UE4 because they really want to see UE4 games (based on the games using UE3 last gen) or because they're worried about the implications on the support it will have in general if it doesn't have the featureset to support it?

I think the latter is what is most important.
 

Linkhero1

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Wait, is that bad news?

They're pulling out staff from all sorts of places. It could end up being bad due to miscommunication as well as other issues. I was under the assumption that the game was being developed by one team.

Lol a ubisoft game might be a shitty mish mash of mediocrity? Gasp! Can't say I'll be surprised. Who knows though.

Yup. I don't know. I might only end up buying AC3 from them this generation.
 

HylianTom

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Are people worried about it not supporting UE4 because they really want to see UE4 games (based on the games using UE3 last gen) or because they're worried about the implications on the support it will have in general if it doesn't have the featureset to support it?

Probably the latter.

From my time spent here, people seem less hung-up on pixel counting and more concerned with support. I get the impression that the Wii U could be a butthair above the 360 and most folks would still be there on Day 1 if the games were there.
 
When I mean "support in general" I mean considering all the other engines that will be used. Considering the vast majority of games won't use UE4, do people expect other engines to basically follow in it's path and would therefore mean they too won't be compatible with Wii U, or are Epic going for some uber-engine it's unlikely anyone will come close to?
 
Aha, a new unit of measurement - the butthair. Let's put the XBox 360 at two butthairs, the Wii-U at 3 butthairs, and XBox 720/PS4 at 6 butthairs.
 

HylianTom

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When I mean "support in general" I mean considering all the other engines that will be used. Considering the vast majority of games won't use UE4, do people expect other engines to basically follow in it's path and would therefore mean they too won't be compatible with Wii U, or are Epic going for some uber-engine it's unlikely anyone will come close to?

That I'm not sure of, as I'm not familiar with the specs required for each. Not really my strong suit, unfortunately..
 
edit: fuck cars. worst pixar movie i've seen.
While I do agree with this statement, I still like Cars. It may be Pixar's worst movie franchise (Cars 2 was worse than Cars 1), but it's still the worst of the best :) I would put it ahead of any Dreamworks CGI film that came out before Kung Fu Panda.

I'm sure if someone is forced to watch (or listen to) it over and over by young kids, that would taint the perception, but that'll happen with any darn movie, no matter how awesome.
 

cyberheater

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Did anyone see this rumour on cpu spec:-

The Wii U CPU, as we know from Nintendo, is made by IBM and is based on their POWER 7 architecture, and will be built on 45nm. The new details reveal that the Wii U CPU is modeled after the 710 Express IBM server processor, which as standard has 6 cores and runs at speeds of up to 3.7 GHz. The 710 Express chip can also execute 4 threads per core at the same.
In order to save on production costs, Nintendo has scaled down the processor for the console. The Wii U version of the CPU will scale down the cores to 4, the clock frequency to 3 GHz, and threads per core will go down from 4 to 2. This means the Wii U CPU will be able to execute 8 threads at the same time. The current Xbox 360 CPU, also made by IBM, can execute 6 threads at the same time.
On paper it looks like the Wii U is “around 50% more powerful than current gen systems”

http://wiiudaily.com/2012/05/wii-u-cpu-said-to-support-8-threads-is-20x-faster-than-wii/
 
Too late.



UE4 currently can only run on a multi-GPU setup or a Kepler. Considering Microsoft is only a year out from their next console, we're going to be expecting another mammoth power-sucking $350+ sold-at-a-loss console from them then?

So you think the flagship of Epic for the next decade wont run on the PS4 & next XBox? Lol. Wow.
 
Oh dude, this movie talk just gave me a great idea for a Wii-U game I want:

The Hobbit RPG for Wii-U. Bilbo is hired as a burglar, so everywhere you go, the controller gives hints about where you can find treasure, as well as being able to display inventory menus and whatnot. And once you find a magic ring, putting it on makes the main screen go white and you can kinda see by looking at the controller and moving it around AR style (I'm assuming that the movie will use much of the same invisible-hobbit effect that the Lord of the Rings movies did, though hopefully a lot less intense).
 

HylianTom

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Oh dude, this movie talk just gave me a great idea for a Wii-U game I want:

The Hobbit RPG for Wii-U. Bilbo is hired as a burglar, so everywhere you go, the controller gives hints about where you can find treasure, as well as being able to display inventory menus and whatnot. And once you find a magic ring, putting it on makes the main screen go white and you can kinda see by looking at the controller and moving it around AR style (I'm assuming that the movie will use much of the same invisible-hobbit effect that the Lord of the Rings movies did, though hopefully a lot less intense).

I'd be all about that! Sounds like a very interesting action-stealth-strategy/puzzle game.

And you'd be limited in how much you can use the Ring, as it would corrupt you if you used it too much..
 

NateDrake

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Saw the UE4 likely not being on Wii U & it got me wondering whether the 360/PS3 ever used UE3 at the highest-end of that engine's capabilities. If Samaritan is UE3, then obviously they did not, but if Wii U can utilize UE3 to near full, then the lack of UE4 shouldn't matter much, right?
 
Saw the UE4 likely not being on Wii U & it got me wondering whether the 360/PS3 ever used UE3 at the highest-end of that engine's capabilities. If Samaritan is UE3, then obviously they did not, but if Wii U can utilize UE3 to near full, then the lack of UE4 shouldn't matter much, right?
Well I don't know how much of a difference a potential lack of UE4 would make when talking about graphics, but it could make a big difference in 3rd party support.
 

Linkhero1

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Saw the UE4 likely not being on Wii U & it got me wondering whether the 360/PS3 ever used UE3 at the highest-end of that engine's capabilities. If Samaritan is UE3, then obviously they did not, but if Wii U can utilize UE3 to near full, then the lack of UE4 shouldn't matter much, right?
Well it does matter. UE4 will have features and effects that UE3 doesn't have. If those features/effects aren't an issue then downports won't be too bad.
 
I saw that photo a while back with the predicable macro of "Even in highschool his body was ready".

So I'm guessing there are Nintendo fans out there who are realising they went to school with Reggie. Guess they wish they were BFF with him now.
Or it's just a crazy stalker who broke into his house to steal his year books.
 
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