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Persona 4: Arena Region-Locked on PS3 - Confirmed [PR statement in OP]

hamchan

Member
Speaking of more region locked Atlus games, Devil Survivor Overclocked still hasn't come out in PAL Land. I have been waiting so fucking long for that game. I blame Nintendo for that one but it's sad to know now that Atlus supports it.
 

Netto-kun

Member
My PS3 was bought in Japan, but I live in Norway. Guess I am forced to import (even though buying a PAL copy would be way cheaper) if the region lock thing is true.
 

TGMIII

Member
Can you prove that or is it just based on what you've seen online? Seriously, not to be an asshole, but I doubt all these publishers are just lying on all these boxes.

I'm in the EU and I own a US copy of Katamari Forever. Has the same symbol on it that you've been talking about and it plays perfectly on my EU PS3.
 

ranmafan

Member
Can you prove that or is it just based on what you've seen online? Seriously, not to be an asshole, but I doubt all these publishers are just lying on all these boxes.

I can honestly say they aren't region locked. I live in Japan, own a Japanese ps3 and have most of those games from the us. They aren't region locked at all.
 

Ravage

Member
Can you prove that or is it just based on what you've seen online? Seriously, not to be an asshole, but I doubt all these publishers are just lying on all these boxes.

My PS3 library has a mix of R1, R2, R3 and even R4 games. All of them work perfectly.
 

Teknoman

Member
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Squire

Banned
I can honestly say they aren't region locked. I live in Japan, own a Japanese ps3 and have most of those games from the us. They aren't region locked at all.

Fair enough. The point is it's possible and Atlus isn't exactly famous for being dishonest, so...
 
Skyrim
RDR
FFXIII
Soul Calibur V
Saint's Row 3
Dragon Age: Origins
Dragon Age 2
Mass Effect 2
Mass Effect 3
LA NOIRE
SSX
Max Payne 3
Portal 2
Fallout: New Vegas
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Batman: Arkham City
Uncharted 2
Uncharted 3
Prince of Persia '08
Marvel vs. Capcom 3
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
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Soul Calibur IV

I have the Japanese version of FFXIII, it aint region locked.
 
Huh, I didn't think region locking was even possible on the PS3 without a Firmware update. I thought the system itself lacked any sort of region-checking stuff.

As pointed out above, Sony gave publishers the ability to region lock if they wanted to. No one chose to do it. Midway was the only company that ever floated the idea, and that was only because of the BR combo for Stranglehold/Hard Boiled. In the end they decided against region locking the game.
 

Omikaru

Member
Speaking of more region locked Atlus games, Devil Survivor Overclocked still hasn't come out in PAL Land. I have been waiting so fucking long for that game. I blame Nintendo for that one but it's sad to know now that Atlus supports it.

It's coming. Ghostlight are publishing it. The reason for the delay is that they needed a Nintendo 3DS publishing license or something, I believe. I remember reading that they'd acquired said license one day, and then a few days later they announced the Devil Survivor games were coming here, including Overclocked.

As for a date? "2012" is the word.
 
I doubt that the number of Japanese importers would have been high enough to justify a decision like this.

Maybe there's some sort of agreement between Atlus and the European publisher. There would likely have been a very large amount of Europeans importing from Japan or North America, and maybe ZEN wanted to avoid that.
this wasnt the answer just maybe one of the reasons involved
 
It won't be 6 months later. It was only for the first Blazblue, while ASW was looking for a new publisher. Since Zen United is doing it, there is not much of a delay anymore.

Zen United already said "get ready for persona 4 arena action in september". Something like that. Game is already playable at some expos here in Europe.

If they release this year, I'll be very surprised. Also their translators will need a raise. On release dates, they seem to take a "we'll announce a release date when it's done, and by which we mean when we start getting stock for our online shop" policy, which I can respect.
 

Yazuka

Member
Can you prove that or is it just based on what you've seen online? Seriously, not to be an asshole, but I doubt all these publishers are just lying on all these boxes.

I've owned both Final Fantasy XIII and Soul Calibur IV US versions. And I've played them both just fine on my European PS3. Trust what you will, but those games are not region locked. You really should listen to the people here telling you that they aren't.

And Uncharted 3 EU version has a Region 2 marking on it. Still works on US consoles, a friend of mine borrowed it. The only thing I think those damn markings do is telling you from what region the game is, not that it's locked it.
 
The first Blazblue came out near a year after America, and although Shift Extend came out like 10 days after it was a revision edition =/. I just want a release date..... ='(

As I said early, the first BB was a special one. While the US Version was released, ASW was looking for a new publishing partner in Europe. Zen United took over and since then there was almost no delay between Europe and US.
 

t26

Member
Well Microsoft also give publisher the option to region lock their game, but very few Japanese publisher would make them region free. Cave tried that for a while I think.
 
Speaking of more region locked Atlus games, Devil Survivor Overclocked still hasn't come out in PAL Land. I have been waiting so fucking long for that game. I blame Nintendo for that one but it's sad to know now that Atlus supports it.

Ghostlight has announced they are releasing it, but yet again no release date..... and too be honest they (Atlus) are supporting the European Publisher this way but like I've been raging everyone but Pal region has a release date.
 

Jigsaw

Banned
could it be possible that the mods on the atlus board don't know what the fuck they are talking about?iirc we had these threads in the past too a few times

but yeah,pre-order canceled for now,sorry vg+,fu atlus
 
As pointed out above, Sony gave publishers the ability to region lock if they wanted to. No one chose to do it.

I really don't think that can be the case. Do people know this first hand, for a fact?

Microsoft genuinely do leave this up to publishers, and I don't see why EA would choose to region lock the Xbox 360 versions of their games while happily leaving the PS3 ones alone. It makes literally no sense at all.
 

phants

Member
While no games (that I'm aware of) on PS3 are currently region locked, you generally can't buy DLC for games that you're playing out of region. Given DLC is becoming an increasingly significant component of game releases, it's less and less likely I'll choose to import a title over buying it locally. Kinda like a soft-region lock, I guess.

Although it's still quite likely, as I live in NZ, where we frequently get royally shafted in terms of pricing, timeliness, and even basic availability. Sigh.
 

Squire

Banned
I've owned both Final Fantasy XIII and Soul Calibur IV US versions. And I've played them both just fine on my European PS3. Trust what you will, but those games are not region locked. You really should listen to the people here telling you that they aren't.

And Uncharted 3 EU version has a Region 2 marking on it. Still works on US consoles, a friend of mine borrowed it. The only thing I think those damn markings do is telling you from what region the game is, not that it's locked it.

Don't worry brother, I'm not that determined not to. I'm also not so gullible as to believe everything I read online whether it's being said by five people or fifty. But people have made their point, I admit.
 
I don't know how the hell Atlus is doing this. It's been six years since the ps3 came out and to this day there is not a single region locked game. If it were publisher choice, then there would be just as many locked ps3 games as on 360. Why would a publisher choose to lock a game on 360 but not lock the same game on ps3?
 

Squire

Banned
I don't know how the hell Atlus is doing this. It's been six years since the ps3 came out and to this day there is not a single region locked game. If it were publisher choice, then there would be just as many locked ps3 games as on 360. Why would a publisher choose to lock a game on 360 but not lock the same game on ps3?

Because Microsoft's mandates probably aren't a copy paste of Sony's, for one.
 

Totobeni

An blind dancing ho
6 years and we got the first region locked PS3 game..and from Atlus of all publishers..wtf.

I will not buy or support this,I need games to be region free not the opposite.
 

TGMIII

Member
As I said early, the first BB was a special one. While the US Version was released, ASW was looking for a new publishing partner in Europe. Zen United took over and since then there was almost no delay between Europe and US.

So there's no reason for them not to give a release date, they've been showing off playable builds at tiny tournaments around the UK. There's no excuse for not telling us SOMETHING.
 

Yazuka

Member
Don't worry brother, I'm not that determined not to. I'm also not so gullible as to believe everything I read online whether it's being said by five people or fifty. But people have made their point, I admit.

Fair enough. Then again people here have no reason to trick you either. =)
But I do understand you, I'd be a bit cautions myself probably.

Still I do hope this isn't true, that they are going to region lock this game. Not that I am interested in it. But I've always respected that companies have had their games region free.
Then again, didn't the same thing pop up about Bayonetta when it was about to be released? And that was proven wrong... Guess we'll just wait and see..
 
I really don't think that can be the case. Do people know this first hand, for a fact?

Microsoft genuinely do leave this up to publishers, and I don't see why EA would choose to region lock the Xbox 360 versions of their games while happily leaving the PS3 ones alone. It makes literally no sense at all.

It's difficult to find specific interviews from the 05-06 period, but this is close to confirming the whole "They can do it if they want" aspect

You've spoken about the advantages that Blu-Ray offers in terms of being able to fit all the localised versions of a game on one disc. What implications does that have for region protection?

We expect most publishers will recognise the benefits of being region-free and just put up all the content on one disc. That's proven to be very successful on PSP, and we expect it to happen on PS3.

So all Sony-published games will be region-free?

Yeah. Our target - I'll say that at least - our target is to have PAL, NTSC, HD and all of the languages all on one disk[sic], and it wil be a single, global SKU, hopefully moving towards a global release date.

Companies went region free on the PS3 because Sony lead the way. All of their games are region free.
 

Omikaru

Member
6 years and we got the first region locked PS3 game..and from Atlus of all publishers..wtf.

I will not buy or support this,I need games to be region free not the opposite.

I'm the same. I was probably going to wait for the PAL release of this anyway, just to support more timely releases of Atlus games in PAL-land (just as I bought Persona 2 Innocent Sin from Ghostlight due to how close to the US release it was -- about a month and five days which isn't terrible by Atlus' standards). However, PS3 has been a pretty neat machine for its lack of region lock, and I don't want that to be ruined by stupid business decisions.

Personally, as a relatively heavy importer, I can't support a regressive move like this.
 
It's difficult to find specific interviews from the 05-06 period, but this is close to confirming the whole "They can do it if they want" aspect



Companies went region free on the PS3 because Sony lead the way. All of their games are region free.

But he didn't answer the part about region locking. He just said they want to have every localization on disc and global release dates for all games moving forward (which obviously didn't turn out to be the case). You could still have a "global" SKU that's locked to its region.

I also doubt if publishers had freedom to lock their games, they would choose not to simply because Sony wasn't doing it. Why would they care what Sony was doing with its own games?
 

Kyoufu

Member
Is there a price difference between JP and US regions?

Maybe they don't want people to import cheaper versions.

Even then, still pretty lame.
 

Takao

Banned
Who wants to bet this has to do with Index being afraid of reverse importation? According to that forum post for some reason there's actually a Japanese text option on western copies.
 
Strong Yen weak Dollar, yeah I'm going with the fear of reverse importation back to Japan as the reason.

Many US anime blurays don't come with the original Japanese dub for precisely this reason.
 
If that is true then I'm very impressed with all other publishers doing the right thing!

I wouldn't be so quick to thank all publishers. While SCEA does allow region locking, I've seen more than one title fail certification due to being region locked at submission. My guess is publishers need to justify the region locking and (thankfully) for Sony, "we want to stop importers" isn't a good enough reason.
 

Yazuka

Member
Who wants to bet this has to do with Index being afraid of reverse importation? According to that forum post for some reason there's actually a Japanese text option on western copies.

Wouldn't surprise me if that is the case. Then again, they could have locked that option instead of putting a region lock on the game. If it turns out to be true.
 

Uthred

Member
could it be possible that the mods on the atlus board don't know what the fuck they are talking about?iirc we had these threads in the past too a few times

but yeah,pre-order canceled for now,sorry vg+,fu atlus

I tried cancelling my pre-order on Vg+ and got a mail back saying they were checking with Atlus to see what the story was
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Strong Yen weak Dollar, yeah I'm going with the fear of reverse importation back to Japan as the reason.

Many US anime blurays don't come with the original Japanese dub for precisely this reason.

*looks at anime bluray collection*

?

Actually what I've seen more of is stuff being withheld from licensing until the entire show is out in Japan for a little bit so that people who want it will buy it at the time as there's "no other option" (like K-On!)
 
Why would they care what Sony was doing with its own games?

Well, many believe publishers will follow the platform holder. Go back to the GC days when Nintendo released the network adapter but didn't really support it with their own games. The system would go on to have really poor support for that device. Many believe that's because Nintendo didn't bother to support it, so why would third party devs?

Like I said earlier, we know Midway was going to region lock Stranglehold but changed their mind because of the quick internet backlash, and now we see Atlus doing it with P4U. So, I think that would show that it's optional.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Can you prove that or is it just based on what you've seen online? Seriously, not to be an asshole, but I doubt all these publishers are just lying on all these boxes.
Uhh, most PS3 games specify region codes on the box and none of them are actually LOCKED to that specific region. I own quite a few imports myself as do many others here and all of us can confirm that region locks are not an issue.
 
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