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Speevy

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I definitely want to see TDKR again, because it is such a big film.

Whether you liked it or not, there's definitely a lot to it.
 

Davey Cakes

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I loved that, that even someone like Batman can just totally lose his mind and cool in desperation humanizes him to me.
It was just like the interrogation scene in TDK, in that regard. Batman gets pissed because of his feelings for Rachel (mostly). He gets frustrated like anyone would. And yeah, in TDKR there's a more dire situation than ever before.
 
Before it was all said and done.. when batman took the bomb to the ocean

Did anyone believe he was dead?

I did :(

i hoped Nolan had the balls to do it, but I doubt the studio would have let him. Bruce being happy is something that doesn't happen in the comic. Its a little too neatly packaged with a bow on top for a Batman story. I think that speaks to why I don't love Nolan's Batfilms more than I do. Batman is treated as a temporary solution, a bandaid. Batman is who walked out of that alley, Bruce died with his parents.

But I just chalk it up to artistic interpretation and move on.
 

lunch

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Before it was all said and done.. when batman took the bomb to the ocean

Did anyone believe he was dead?

I did :(
No. I was really hoping the movie would end with Gordon shining the Bat signal in tribute, and then turning around to see Batman, this time played by Joseph Gordon Levitt's character, as a way of showing that Batman was a symbol and lives on, but that's my own fan service crazy ending.

I didn't honestly expect Batman to actually die. If he can escape a prison and somehow return to Gotham despite being broke and the city completely locked down, then why shouldn't he be able to survive a nuclear bomb?
 
It was just like the interrogation scene in TDK, in that regard. Batman gets pissed because of his feelings for Rachel (mostly). He gets frustrated like anyone would. And yeah, in TDKR there's a more dire situation than ever before.

Bane's fight and breaking of Batman, his "darkness" monologue...so fucking great.
 

Wilbur

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i hoped Nolan had the balls to do it, but I doubt the studio would have let him. Bruce being happy is something that doesn't happen in the comic. Its a little too neatly packaged with a bow on top for a Batman story. I think that speaks to why I don't love Nolan's Batfilms more than I do. Batman is treated as a temporary solution, a bandaid. Batman is who walked out of that alley, Bruce died with his parents.

But I just chalk it up to artistic interpretation and move on.

I think it makes sense in a realistic (cue rabid LOL MICROWAVES AND BROKEN BACKS) way that he isn't going to be able to keep it up forever. He's mentally and physically scarred, he has the whole police force looking for him. It being a short amount of time in a self contained trilogy with Bruce giving it up is of course artistic interpretation, and it was lovely for me.

On one hand because I think Nolan's pulled it all off fantastically, and on the other hand because it's Batman. He'll exist after Nolan, so any interpretation is okay. Even Batman and Robin as awful as it was, Batman was always going to survive.
 
Yes he does break him physically and mentally.

In the end, he decides to stay as Batman for as long as he can. It's implied he's going to search for a partner so he doesn't have to protect Gotham alone for the rest of his life. It ends with everyone in the city cheering when the Bat signal is turned on (quite the change of tone for a Batman film) and he is on top of a building for a few seconds then swoops down. Credits.

So this guy didn't know what the fuck he was talking about on the first page. Didn't he take a permaban bet if this shit wasn't true?
 

SRG01

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There were some parts that I liked, but overall the plot was a little too convenient at times. Talia/Miranda was obvious from the start, and Blake as Robin was a little too fan-servicey.

I dunno, I generally love Nolan films but this was his weakest.
 
i hoped Nolan had the balls to do it, but I doubt the studio would have let him. Bruce being happy is something that doesn't happen in the comic. Its a little too neatly packaged with a bow on top for a Batman story. I think that speaks to why I don't love Nolan's Batfilms more than I do. Batman is treated as a temporary solution, a bandaid. Batman is who walked out of that alley, Bruce died with his parents.

But I just chalk it up to artistic interpretation and move on.
the problem is the comics have to keep going, so Bruce can never really have a happy ending, he gets married or something eventually they will be killed or evil etc.
this being the absolute end gave us something unique for Batman/Bruce that he almost never gets.
 

Sojgat

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I don't know what GAF's thing with Beyond is all about. What a boring spin off. Terry was such an obnoxious ass of a character.

No, no, no, nononononononononononononononononononononono. I consider that shit canon. Hasn't DC even started rolling it into the comics, before the new 52 garbage anyway?
 

lunch

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TDKR or TDK? Which did you prefer?
I'm probably in the minority, and I should say that I saw The Dark Knight for the first time last night, so I haven't had four years to think about the film, but I preferred Rises. Not by much, and I think all three films are incredible, but TDKR is my favorite of the three.
 

siddx

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Before it was all said and done.. when batman took the bomb to the ocean

Did anyone believe he was dead?

I did :(

lol my girlfriend actually cried a bit thinking he was dead.

Movie was great, flaws and all. Anne Hathaway proved the doubters wrong, Bane (despite being impossible to understand half the time) was a frighteningly intimidating villain, and the very last scene with "robin" rising up on the platform was very cool. Would have liked more Batman being badass and less cops running around being idiots though. And as cool as it was to get Talia involved, I felt it took the focus away from Bane and what should have been a badass final confrontation between batman and bane.
The scene in the tunnel when the lights go off and batman goes flying by gave me chills though.



Thread title is corny but it's not meant to be insensitive you twits. Remember Aurora is what it reads and was clearly made as some poorly thought out tribute.
 
That role definitely was way more suitable for the Joker, but not much can be done. It was nice to see Crane anyways.

It would have obviously been amazing if it was Joker but outside of them spending 10mil on ILM doing the greatest character recreation of all time I don't see it being possible. Scarecrow was definitely great.


I'm going to see the movie again at noon with the fam. Now that I know what to expect I am thinking I will probably enjoy it more.
 
It would have obviously been amazing if it was Joker but outside of them spending 10mil on ILM doing the greatest character recreation of all time I don't see it being possible. Scarecrow was definitely great.


I'm going to see the movie again at noon with the fam. Now that I know what to expect I am thinking I will probably enjoy it more.

Hoping for the same with me, though I wasn't as disappointed as you.
 
If Heath was still alive, it would have been awesome if Batman has asked Bane who had the detonator and he replied "Why so serious?"....

...but Ledger's not with us anymore and Nolan purged all traces of Joker from DKR, Twoface was the main baddie all through DK...apparently.
 
No, no, no, nononononononononononononononononononononono. I consider that shit canon. Hasn't DC even started rolling it into the comics, before the new 52 garbage anyway?

Well. Batman Beyond is a continuation of the "animated" universe. So, it's kind of like Ultimate Spider-man to Spider-man. Canon, but an elseworld. And yes, there is a "Batman Beyond" comic that is Batman Beyond / Justice League Unlimited.
 

Wilbur

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Haha, word. Seriously though, I think Ledger gives TDK an edge that actually makes it a watchable, entertaining movie, he's really great as the Joker.

I know we disagree on our opinions of the movie but yeah, Joker's a phenomenal character with a phenomenal performance. But the film itself feels very disjointed and the film lacks a little when he isn't around, except for some choice Harvey scenes. Love the film but it's very flawed.
 
"Death...by exile" was great.

Although...I guess they would have been fine walking across the ice? Since Batman walked out of the shadow from across the other side. Not to mention they're all just fine standing on the ice once Batman shows up...I'd hightail it to the other end once the baddies were knocked out.

But all my thoughts on that were immediately wiped out by the FUCK AWESOMERY of the "throw the flare" part. I've been waiting for that since The Dark Knight poster came out.
 

siddx

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I thought we might get a reference to Joker or a brief shot of someone in the far background in a purple suit, something very sly and easy to miss.

Joker would be smart enough to play along with Bane until he could get his own goals in motion. Wow I feel like a nerd just typing that.
 

Sorcerer

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I think the Miranda Tate as Raz's daugther was handled well.

I see Bane (in this movie) as the type who would rather die than cooperate with Batman. Essentially a dead end. Was Batman going to kill Bane for refusing to talk?. Doubtful. Dead End, it she did not step in.

It caught me by suprise, and I laughed at myself for not figuring it out.

I flashed back to a couple of interviews where Marion Cotillard explicity denied she was Talia and that character was not in the movie.
 
I know we disagree on our opinions of the movie but yeah, Joker's a phenomenal character with a phenomenal performance. But the film itself feels very disjointed and the film lacks a little when he isn't around, except for some choice Harvey scenes. Love the film but it's very flawed.

This.

It's a shame Bane isn't getting more credit. He was the definition of "presence", but in a pure, physical, someone is going to get brutally beaten OR outsmarted" way. Hardy did some amazing things with his eyes, too.
 
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