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CFA response to anti-gay alleg. "Guilty as charged." Do NOT gloat about eating at CFA

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Doctor West

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thetrin said:
I avoid fast food other than Qdoba and Jimmy Johns, and it surprises me that people eat fast food on a regular basis. It's not that hard to make some food in your own kitchen, or eat at a local establishment.
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We're on the same page as far as eating habits.

As for the people who seem to survive on fast food, I guess having to remove that bigot restaurant from the rotation is a big deal because it gives them less of a variety of food choices? I don't know. I'm really trying to see how a chicken sandwich is more important than human rights to some people. How many different fast food chains are there in most areas, maybe ten? So is cutting one completely out really that big of a deal?

Maybe we should start posting easy but delicious recipes in this thread to give people more options.
 
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Lonewolf_92

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Doctor West said:
We're on the same page as far as eating habits.

As for the people who seem to survive on fast food, I guess having to remove that bigot restaurant from the rotation is a big deal because it gives them less of a variety of food choices? I don't know. I'm really trying to see how a chicken sandwich is more important than human rights to some people. How many different fast food chains are there in most areas, maybe ten? So is cutting one completely out really that big of a deal?

Maybe we should start posting easy but delicious recipes in this thread to give people more options.
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CFA breading is loaded with MSG (with the exception of their grilled chicken) which acts as a flavor enhancer. Any breaded chicken recipes with MSG added would probably work fine.
 
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nVidiot_Whore

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I really hope the majority, even on the Right, sees through the hypocritical anger and crying about "freedom of speech" coming from the likes of Huckabee and Pailin.

As well as attempting to make this about religion, and not specifically addressing the rights issue people are complaining about.
 
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Spring-Loaded

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All of these other organizations calling out/disowning Chick-Fil-A is refreshing. I've kind of lost faith in humanity during these last few weeks and it's good to see this. It reminds me of the boat scene's outcome from The Dark Knight.
 
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DeathbyVolcano

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Instead of the cayenne pepper she suggests, I use crushed red pepper as well as throwing dried chipotle's in the marinade. Shit's deliciously spicy and smokey.
 
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mre

Golden Domers are chickenshit!!
Trent Strong said:
Seriously. If it's at all possible, eat at a local, family run place and avoid all the big chains.
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What the fuck? I'm down with the boycott of Chick-Fil-A, but to hell with this. If it's not a place I can't eat at or shop at where ever I go then I'm not spending a dime there. You eat at Shenanigans because you fucking know that a Shenanigans in Sheboygan is going to taste the same as a Shenanigans in Spurbury. Just like you shop at TJ Max or Walmart because if you're travelling and have to return something, you're almost guaranteed to have a TJ Max or Walmart right down the road. I do not understand this "local, family run" preference at all.
 
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KtSlime

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mre said:
What the fuck? I'm down with the boycott of Chick-Fil-A, but to hell with this. If it's not a place I can't eat at or shop at where ever I go then I'm not spending a dime there. You eat at Shenanigans because you fucking know that a Shenanigans in Sheboygan is going to taste the same as a Shenanigans in Spurbury. Just like you shop at TJ Max or Walmart because if you're travelling and have to return something, you're almost guaranteed to have a TJ Max or Walmart right down the road. I do not understand this "local, family run" preference at all.
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Why is it preferable to have this level of consistency? Americans have a terribly non-diverse diet as it is, the least one could do is go out and get french fries at different restaurants.
 
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thetrin said:
I avoid fast food other than Qdoba and Jimmy Johns, and it surprises me that people eat fast food on a regular basis. It's not that hard to make some food in your own kitchen, or eat at a local establishment.
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It's not hard to make food in my own kitchen, but it can be difficult to manage buying ingredients.

For example, if I want a burger I can drive 2 miles and get a Jumbo Jack for $1.59. The alternative is going to grocery store, also about 2 miles, and spending like $20 on a huge list of ingredients: buns, meat, spices, lettuce, tomatoes, onions, pickles, mayo, ketchup. Unless I eat nothing but burgers every day, half of those ingredients will spoil before I use all of them.

Then add another 30 minutes of preparing food and washing dishes.
 
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Doctor West

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mre said:
What the fuck? I'm down with the boycott of Chick-Fil-A, but to hell with this. If it's not a place I can't eat at or shop at where ever I go then I'm not spending a dime there. You eat at Shenanigans because you fucking know that a Shenanigans in Sheboygan is going to taste the same as a Shenanigans in Spurbury. Just like you shop at TJ Max or Walmart because if you're travelling and have to return something, you're almost guaranteed to have a TJ Max or Walmart right down the road. I do not understand this "local, family run" preference at all.
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I actually can't understand your stance at all. You only eat at chain restaurants because you know what to expect and that there is always one nearby? For starters, local restaurants actually have real chefs who cook the food as opposed to employees who just defrost stuff and follow directions. You are also supporting a local business which is great for the community. Finally, don't you want some diversity in your life? I can't imagine a more mundane existence than having to eat the same thing from the same place over and over again.

Now there is nothing wrong with eating at a chain restaurant, but to completely swear off all local places for the reasons you gave is really bizarre.
 
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

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mre said:
What the fuck? I'm down with the boycott of Chick-Fil-A, but to hell with this. If it's not a place I can't eat at or shop at where ever I go then I'm not spending a dime there. You eat at Shenanigans because you fucking know that a Shenanigans in Sheboygan is going to taste the same as a Shenanigans in Spurbury. Just like you shop at TJ Max or Walmart because if you're travelling and have to return something, you're almost guaranteed to have a TJ Max or Walmart right down the road. I do not understand this "local, family run" preference at all.
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I can't believe people like you exist.
 
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Leucrota

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thetrin said:
Some people just care more about chicken than they do the rights of their fellow man.

God, that sounds really awful when I say it like that.
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So how much money has CFA contributed to 'traditional family' groups? A couple of million?

Nike, Gildan, and pretty much ANY clothes or shoes (besides New Balance) brand has all of their product made over seas by children and other people under near-slave conditions. They make BILLIONS off the backs of children.

Apple and other electronics brands have their stuff made in equally horrible places. They make BILLIONS off of suffering.

You have to pick and choose your fights. A couple of million dollars contributed to some 'traditional family' group? I hardly can bat an eye at that in the grand scheme of things.
 
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Spring-Loaded

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yankeeforever2 said:
Especially at restaurants, makes no fucking sense there.
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I was at this knock-off Mardi Gras street/Sodom and Gomorrah party a few months ago and some guys were yelling "No! No they are not fucking in the Porta-Potty! Noooo! Oh my god!"

They was fucking in the Porta-Potty man. Restaurants make sense in comparison.
 
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Mr. F

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Watching this debacle unfold has been kind of crazy, what a bizarre PR situation. It'd be one thing if the guy just disagreed with gay marriage because hey, free speech etc. (even if it's a backwards stance) but it's pretty shitty about the whole donations to hateful charities thing.

No Chick-Fil-A up in Canada (and if there was they'd be pissed the 'battle' against gay marriage has been lost for some time), but I'll be sure to avoid them in the future when visiting the States.
 
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Doctor West

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saltywalrus said:
It's not hard to make food in my own kitchen, but it can be difficult to manage buying ingredients.

For example, if I want a burger I can drive 2 miles and get a Jumbo Jack for $1.59. The alternative is going to grocery store, also about 2 miles, and spending like $20 on a huge list of ingredients: buns, meat, spices, lettuce, tomatoes, onions, pickles, mayo, ketchup. Unless I eat nothing but burgers every day, half of those ingredients will spoil before I use all of them.

Then add another 30 minutes of preparing food and washing dishes.
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Do you have a really busy day that keeps you from cooking, or do you just not feel like it? As for the ingredients spoiling, maybe only if you buy huge quantities from a place like Costco. The buns are the only things that would go bad pretty quick, but the other perishable stuff can be purchased as individual items or just the exact amount you need to make the burger.

If it's a money thing, that's more understandable. The only counter point is that if you eat nothing but fast food, you may have some pretty pricy medical bills down the line. If you prepare meals for yourself every now and then, it will be much healthier.

Edit: Actually, you can buy individual buns. They are usually near the bakery section with bagels and doughnuts.
 
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Devolution

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PatMcAtee said:
So how much money has CFA contributed to 'traditional family' groups? A couple of million?

Nike, Gildan, and pretty much ANY clothes or shoes (besides New Balance) brand has all of their product made over seas by children and other people under near-slave conditions. They make BILLIONS off the backs of children.

Apple and other electronics brands have their stuff made in equally horrible places. They make BILLIONS off of suffering.

You have to pick and choose your fights. A couple of million dollars contributed to some 'traditional family' group? I hardly can bat an eye at that in the grand scheme of things.
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Again with this straw man.

A couple of million dollars to ensure gays can't marry as well as demonizing gays and they're openly bigoted to the public about it. Please read the thread.
 
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Cyan

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PatMcAtee said:
So how much money has CFA contributed to 'traditional family' groups? A couple of million?

Nike, Gildan, and pretty much ANY clothes or shoes (besides New Balance) brand has all of their product made over seas by children and other people under near-slave conditions. They make BILLIONS off the backs of children.

Apple and other electronics brands have their stuff made in equally horrible places. They make BILLIONS off of suffering.

You have to pick and choose your fights. A couple of million dollars contributed to some 'traditional family' group? I hardly can bat an eye at that in the grand scheme of things.
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Every fucking page, I swear.
 
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lunch

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PatMcAtee said:
So how much money has CFA contributed to 'traditional family' groups? A couple of million?

Nike, Gildan, and pretty much ANY clothes or shoes (besides New Balance) brand has all of their product made over seas by children and other people under near-slave conditions. They make BILLIONS off the backs of children.

Apple and other electronics brands have their stuff made in equally horrible places. They make BILLIONS off of suffering.

You have to pick and choose your fights. A couple of million dollars contributed to some 'traditional family' group? I hardly can bat an eye at that in the grand scheme of things.
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Can we just copy and paste our responses to this argument from the last fifty pages?
 
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KtSlime

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PatMcAtee said:
So how much money has CFA contributed to 'traditional family' groups? A couple of million?

Nike, Gildan, and pretty much ANY clothes or shoes (besides New Balance) brand has all of their product made over seas by children and other people under near-slave conditions. They make BILLIONS off the backs of children.

Apple and other electronics brands have their stuff made in equally horrible places. They make BILLIONS off of suffering.

You have to pick and choose your fights. A couple of million dollars contributed to some 'traditional family' group? I hardly can bat an eye at that in the grand scheme of things.
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This thread is specifically about this particular issue. You have no idea what we choose to purchase, boycott, volunteer, etc. Why bring it up? We all choose our battles, and it is a bit rude to say "this cause is lame, why aren't you doing this instead". Want to talk about boycotting electronics companies, or shoes? You are free to make a thread, and I am sure some of will join you.
 
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Daydream Sequence

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mre said:
What the fuck? I'm down with the boycott of Chick-Fil-A, but to hell with this. If it's not a place I can't eat at or shop at where ever I go then I'm not spending a dime there. You eat at Shenanigans because you fucking know that a Shenanigans in Sheboygan is going to taste the same as a Shenanigans in Spurbury. Just like you shop at TJ Max or Walmart because if you're travelling and have to return something, you're almost guaranteed to have a TJ Max or Walmart right down the road. I do not understand this "local, family run" preference at all.
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You don't understand the benefits to supporting local, family-run business? You take pride in only eating at chains? Good Christ. Enjoy missing out on some of the best food ever made.
 
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LyleLanley

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mre said:
What the fuck? I'm down with the boycott of Chick-Fil-A, but to hell with this. If it's not a place I can't eat at or shop at where ever I go then I'm not spending a dime there. You eat at Shenanigans because you fucking know that a Shenanigans in Sheboygan is going to taste the same as a Shenanigans in Spurbury. Just like you shop at TJ Max or Walmart because if you're travelling and have to return something, you're almost guaranteed to have a TJ Max or Walmart right down the road. I do not understand this "local, family run" preference at all.
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Is this a joke? If not you must be the most boring person in the world.

PatMcAtee said:
Nike, Gildan, and pretty much ANY clothes or shoes (besides New Balance) brand has all of their product made over seas by children
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Ugh.
 
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Wilsongt

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I just found out my aunt, who loves Chick-Fil-A, will also be boycotting them because of their stance against gays. :) She was the first family member I came out to.
 
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GoldenEye 007

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Don't really think it's a strawman at all. It is a legitimate comparison.

No doubt one is easier than the other to give up than another, but on a fundamental level, we're all doing the same thing basically.

Saying "oh, this is harder to give up or find alternatives than that" like it absolves anyone of any guilt of what we're "supporting" is disingenuous. Especially when there are plenty of people here saying that because one eats at a place like CFA, it means they are anti-gay, etc. Some will easily label people like that, but will get defensive as hell when one points out we're all doing things that aren't supporting the best interests of others.

I've already stated my stance on CFA that I'm reevaluating and I've found myself actively avoiding there the past week at least. But let's take the smartphone thing. Yes, they are necessary for work and family sometimes. However, outside of that they are largely nothing more than leisure and luxury. Would a compromise between the two positions (not that I'm expecting anyone to do this) be to only use those things for the absolute necessities? That is keeping in touch with work and family affairs? No games, no fancy apps/superfluous internet browsing, just using the device enough to function in life since that is largely a requirement nowadays?

And yeah, I use smartphone for leisure/luxury fully knowing the shit-tier conditions a lot of people are subjected to in making them. No problem calling myself a hypocrite.
 
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Devolution

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Once again I have to wonder the validity in arguing business related manufacturing ethics and trying to find fried chicken elsewhere. The comparison is a faulty one. You can get fried chicken from non-bigoted restaurants, what's your other option with electronics?
 
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Esch

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mre said:
What the fuck? I'm down with the boycott of Chick-Fil-A, but to hell with this. If it's not a place I can't eat at or shop at where ever I go then I'm not spending a dime there. You eat at Shenanigans because you fucking know that a Shenanigans in Sheboygan is going to taste the same as a Shenanigans in Spurbury. Just like you shop at TJ Max or Walmart because if you're travelling and have to return something, you're almot guaranteed to have a TJ Max or Walmart right down the road. I do not understand this "local, family run" preference at all.
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So can you not notice the difference in ingredients between a good local place and a chain? Or perhaps you see no merit in giving money to local businesses?
 
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Sai-kun

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I personally like retyping all of my posts, although the mods might think I'm just inflating my post count
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Recon

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Eschaton said:
So can you not notice the difference in ingredients between a good local place and a chain? Or perhaps you see no merit in giving money to local businesses?
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A lot of chain places and family run places get their ingredients from the same place: Gordon Food Service.
 
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