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[Spieler Eins]

Man, people on other forums having meltdowns allready

"NOTHING IS COMING TO WII U!"

Well, it's not like Nintendo gives us any reason to think otherwise. (Which is why it always comes back to tech talk so often...) I've already prepared, but I imagine it will go down worse next week, even here for people that seriously expect ,,E3 now in Fall''.

 

[marc^o^]

Well, it's not like Nintendo gives us any reason to think otherwise. (Which is why it always comes back to tech talk so often...) I've already prepared, but I imagine it will go down worse next week, even here for people that seriously expect ,,E3 now in Fall''.

Neogaf. Don't Believe.

 

[Father_Brain]

Keeping my expectations low for next Thursday; I expect the software portion of the conference to focus overwhelmingly on the titles shown at E3, with CoD:BOII being the "big" reveal. Best-case scenario is that we get a few not-completely-expected multiplatform announcements out of it.

 

[Kerub]

But before you leave, I would like you to step inside one MORE world...

'Nintendoland 2!'

Nintendoland : Episode one

 

[Lord Phol]

I'm really not seeing anything interesting in the WiiU controller.
But damn it I know I will have to get one because of super smash, zelda and pikmin ><.

 

[blu]

I know what the conference will be about: sales charts. And since no WiiU will have sold till then, all charts will be empty, and all graphs - flat. It will be amazing.

 

[Bluemercury]

Even after Reggie's Skyrim callout? :/

Nintendo really needs to do better... Bethesda's one of the western devs they should've been specifically targeting to incentivise and bring on board. Same for Valve, Rockstar N/SD, Irrational, etc. Megapubs like Ubisoft, EA or Activision are expected, but Nintendo always seems to get lazy/content and just stop there.

If it's NOJ who calls the shots then i doubt Reggie can do anything...

 

[bgassassin]

You're trying to take this argument to some transcendental levels, I see.

Every time I see him in these type of discussions that's all he does. That's why his "blind leading the blind" quote is asinine.

 

[Sadist]

Even after Reggie's Skyrim callout? :/

Nintendo really needs to do better... Bethesda's one of the western devs they should've been specifically targeting to incentivise and bring on board. Same for Valve, Rockstar N/SD, Irrational, etc. Megapubs like Ubisoft, EA or Activision are expected, but Nintendo always seems to get lazy/content and just stop there.

I don't think it's that simple and Nintendo being lazy; after last generation (looking at both Nintendo and publishers) I suppose publishers aren't sure what to do with the Wii U. There are a few guys jumping in because I suspect they don't want to make the same mistake twice. (Sega, Warner Bros., Ubisoft, Namco at this point) All of the others, they want to be sure that Wii U will sell third party software. Bethesda and 2K games for instance are a part of that particular group.

So they'll keep an eye on Darksiders II, (yikes) Mass Effect 3, Batman AC, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Aliens Colonial Marines, Zombi U, Assassin's Creed 3 etc. If they sell, well yay for Wii U's future. If it doesn't pan out... ru-oh.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

At the end of the day, Nintendo can't force Bethesda to dev for the WiiU. Most likely they're waiting to see how well the WiiU does in terms of sales. Remember when the 3DS launched, and all the third parties were saying "Hm, maybe", and now they appear much less sceptical? If the WiiU sells anything near the Wii, and the new Bethesda games can technically run on the WiiU, there won't be much reason not to do that.

I'd say release a Skyrim/Fallout port as a tester, but seeing how they handle the PS3 I don't think that's such a good idea.

 

[The_Lump]

At the end of the day, Nintendo can't force Bethesda to dev for the WiiU. Most likely they're waiting to see how well the WiiU does in terms of sales. Remember when the 3DS launched, and all the third parties were saying "Hm, maybe", and now they appear much less sceptical? If the WiiU sells anything near the Wii, and the new Bethesda games can technically run on the WiiU, there won't be much reason not to do that.

I'd say release a Skyrim/Fallout port as a tester, but seeing how they handle the PS3 I don't think that's such a good idea.

That's pretty much what the Bethesda guy said. He just said it in the ancient "PR-Swill" dialect.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

That's pretty much what the Bethesda guy said. He just said it in the ancient "PR-Swill" dialect.

It is a perfectly reasonable standpoint to take really, from the business article. I believe the WiiU could turn around Nintendo's third party history, but who knows.

 

[schuelma]

Well, it's not like Nintendo gives us any reason to think otherwise. (Which is why it always comes back to tech talk so often...) I've already prepared, but I imagine it will go down worse next week, even here for people that seriously expect ,,E3 now in Fall''.

You truly are one note.

 

[The_Lump]

It is a perfectly reasonable standpoint to take really, from the business article. I believe the WiiU could turn around Nintendo's third party history, but who knows.

Yep, don't blame them. Would be easier if they just said it in plain English though. Would save the sensationalist headlines and thread titles. "Bethesda on Wii U: 'it doesn't support our games'" obviously gets more clicks than "Bethesda waiting to see how other games sell", I guess

 

[ScreenSplitter]

Nobody's expecting E3 in the fall. What they will definitely announce is price, release date, and launch lineup. You know, the things you need to launch a console that's coming out in under 2-3 months.

"Bethesda on Wii U: 'it doesn't support our games'" obviously gets more clicks than "Bethesda waiting to see how other games sell", I guess

But it does give Spieler Eins a huge boner.

 

[Wichu]

Would love if they could achieve this on Wii U
http://lvls.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/xenoblade-artwork-10.jpg
http://www.nintendo-insider.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/xenoblade-artwork-7.jpg

I'm pretty sure those are touched-up high res screenshots (using Wii assets) with the character painted in. Their Wii U game should look better (hopefully at 1080p, but I'm expecting 720p + AA).

 

[Metroid Hunter]

Nobody's expecting E3 in the fall. What they will definitely announce is price, release date, and launch lineup. You know, the things you need to launch a console that's coming out in under 2-3 months.

But E3 isn't E3 anymore. Nintendo makes lots of announcements during the September conference.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

But E3 isn't E3 anymore. Nintendo makes lots of announcements during the September conference.

I really don't know what to expect, but if they don't announce those three things I mentioned... well, they have to, pretty much. A Zelda/Mario reveal etc. wouldn't surprise me, but I'm not being so crass as to expect it.

 

[MadeInBeats]

The comments from Ancel have made me think along the same lines. 1GB of RAM available to developers can't be seen by anyone in their right mind to be enormous. Not even 2GB imo.

When i did some light reading on power cores and eDRAM something that caught my attention is that it mentioned something like 'it can feed and feed data', so maybe it's something down to the way the hardware is set up that data in the RAM can be stored, moved and shifted around in a way that it essentially gives the same ability that much more physical RAM would.

Don't listen to anything i'm saying though, i'm a bloody numbskull.

 

[bgassassin]

Keeping my expectations low for next Thursday; I expect the software portion of the conference to focus overwhelmingly on the titles shown at E3, with CoD:BOII being the "big" reveal. Best-case scenario is that we get a few not-completely-expected multiplatform announcements out of it.

Similar to me. I'm expecting we'll get the full launch list from this conference. Anything beyond that will be a pleasant surprise.

 

[blu]

Every time I see him in these type of discussions that's all he does. That's why his "blind leading the blind" quote is asinine.

I ain't trading no circle jerking for no stinkin blind-blind leading. ..Perhaps we could have both?

 

[Metroid Hunter]

I really don't know what to expect, but if they don't announce those three things I mentioned... well, they have to, pretty much. A Zelda/Mario reveal etc. wouldn't surprise me, but I'm not being so crass as to expect it.

Just think about E3 2008 and then Fall Conference 2008. Big difference.

 

[The_Lump]

I ain't trading no circle jerking for no stinkin blind-blind leading. ..Perhaps we could have both?

Blind circle-jerking? Sounds....dangerous.

 

[bgassassin]

I ain't trading no circle jerking for no stinkin blind-blind leading. ..Perhaps we could have both?

Oh I'm going to have to agree with Lump on that. How about something safer like throwing knives at each other and trying to catch them with our teeth?

 

[DaSorcerer7]

Oh I'm going to have to agree with Lump on that. How about something safer like throwing knives at each other and trying to catch them with our teeth?

How bout, blind circle jerking..with knives

 

[10k]

Well, it's not like Nintendo gives us any reason to think otherwise. (Which is why it always comes back to tech talk so often...) I've already prepared, but I imagine it will go down worse next week, even here for people that seriously expect ,,E3 now in Fall''.

Wha...I jus.....why....fuck it it's not worth my time arguing with you.

 

[Sadist]

Oh I'm going to have to agree with Lump on that. How about something safer like throwing knives at each other and trying to catch them with our teeth?

We could throw them at Spieler Eins. Seems like he wouldn't mind. Blindfold the guy and you're ready to go!

...Thunder Monkey? Is that you?

He'd rather touch people while blinded. It's his thing.

 

[The_Lump]

How bout, blind circle jerking..with knives

...Thunder Monkey? Is that you?

 

[Spieler Eins]

Just think about E3 2008 and then Fall Conference 2008. Big difference.

Not really the same thing. These events were held by Iwata in Japan, when the console was already out. This time it's to clear up the launch details for NA, like the 3DS specific conference that happened at the beginning of last year or so.

 

[D-e-f-]

If it's NOJ who calls the shots then i doubt Reggie can do anything...

Nintendo headquarters in Japan is called NCL (Nintendo Co., Ltd.), just FYI

 

[DaSorcerer7]

...Thunder Monkey? Is that you?

Nah..he'd probably say use bananas instead of knives.

 

[blu]

Nah..he'd probably say use bananas instead of knives.

Bananas you say..

 

[gashikunFLCL]

Oh I'm going to have to agree with Lump on that. How about something safer like throwing knives at each other and trying to catch them with our teeth?

How about this?

 

[Javier]

E3 2012 = Believe Hard

Sept. 13 Conference = Believe Hard 2: Believe Harder

 

[DrWong]

Just checked the M. Ancel interview (good translation Marc^o^) and it's a really a good one. Lot of interesting things about Wii U, next gen, PS2/PS3 promises (not fulfilled)... It should have its own thread with a proper translation. I can't do it right now but if I have time this week-end and if nobody has done it I'll try.

I'm really curious to know what is(are) the feature(s) they didn't show yet about Legend, a feature under NDA (and another evidence there are NDAs still going)...? I'm betting on some NFC function but I'm sure there'is something else related to the way the Gamepad player can interact with the world/levels.

 

[The_Lump]

Just to go a little of topic (will return to banana/blind/circle jerk speculation shortly) Do we know what version of HDMI Wii u has?

 

[D-e-f-]

Anybody think we should open a self-help group-thread in preparation of Sep 13 where we tell everyone to keep calm, expect no megatons and overall be realistic about what's gonna go down followed by some mild meditation and exercise? I think that would help.

 

[DaSorcerer7]

Anybody think we should open a self-help group-thread in preparation of Sep 13 where we tell everyone to keep calm, expect no megatons and overall be realistic about what's gonna go down followed by some mild meditation and exercise? I think that would help.

You're just trying to take all the fun out of it aren't you.

edit: stopping the hype train is futile.

 

[SolarPowered]

Anybody think we should open a self-help group-thread in preparation of Sep 13 where we tell everyone to keep calm, expect no megatons and overall be realistic about what's gonna go down followed by some mild meditation and exercise? I think that would help.

A self-help program for Nintendo fans.

NNFSG

"NeoGAF Nintendo fan support group"

 

[gamergirly]

Anybody think we should open a self-help group-thread in preparation of Sep 13 where we tell everyone to keep calm, expect no megatons and overall be realistic about what's gonna go down followed by some mild meditation and exercise? I think that would help.

The self help logic ends after the 5th post

 

[The Giant]

I hope RE 6 gets announced next week. If not, I will have to buy the 360 version.

 

[The_Lump]

Anybody think we should open a self-help group-thread in preparation of Sep 13 where we tell everyone to keep calm, expect no megatons and overall be realistic about what's gonna go down followed by some mild meditation and exercise? I think that would help.

 

[D-e-f-]

You're just trying to take all the fun out of it aren't you.

edit: stopping the hype train is futile.

As much as I love the hype-gifs, I just want to spare people the meltdown because some get all crazy already with what they expect out of this.

I hope RE 6 gets announced next week. If not, I will have to buy the 360 version.

I think RE6 is one of those candidates for "late port" ... I honestly think it's gonna land on Wii U sooner or later.

 

[RedSwirl]

Resident Evil 6 - Possible, but given the upcoming release on 360/PS3 maybe unlikely to be announced next week
Dishonored - No, just see Bethesda's attitude towards Wii U
Far Cry 3 - Probably unlikely given the mature content, also else it probably would've been mentioned already (and I think they already commented on that)
Crysis 3 - No, see Yerli's comments regarding Wii U
Bioshock Infinite - No, see Take-Two's comments regarding Wii U and/or the fact that they seem to be having development problems
Tomb Raider - No, see the Crystal Dynamics excuse
GTA 5 - Maybe, probably unlikely, but definitely won't be announced next week
Dead Space 3 - Maybe, probably not, because EA

I think most of those games are just too far along in development for devs to set aside team for a fourth platform. This will probably be true for most of the games coming out through spring 2013.

With the exception of Assassin's Creed III (which is apparently going through porting problems) and probably Black Ops II, roughly all of the multiplatform games with Wii U ports will have been out for months if not a year when the system launches. That tells me that at the very least, developers got dev kits too late to properly port 2012 and even a lot of 2013 games over. I don't think we're going to begin to start seeing anything approaching multiplatform parity until mid 2013, maybe even as next gen console development ramps up.

 

[ffdgh]

Anybody think we should open a self-help group-thread in preparation of Sep 13 where we tell everyone to keep calm, expect no megatons and overall be realistic about what's gonna go down followed by some mild meditation and exercise? I think that would help.

it probably wouldn't make it pass the 10th post......before false hype ensures lol

 

[tnaden]

Anybody think we should open a self-help group-thread in preparation of Sep 13 where we tell everyone to keep calm, expect no megatons and overall be realistic about what's gonna go down followed by some mild meditation and exercise? I think that would help.

Naah, what can possibly go wrong.


E3HYPETRAIN

 

[gamergirly]

I hope RE 6 gets announced next week. If not, I will have to buy the 360 version.

Yeah I'm in the same boat. Not sure if I would be able to wait another 6 months or year for a Wii U version

 

[D-e-f-]

Yeah I'm in the same boat. Not sure if I would be able to wait another 6 months or year for a Wii U version

I would've said the same when it got announced but with all the previews so far, I'm pretty cold on RE6.

 

[RedSwirl]

I don't believe that it's impossible for them to port 2013 titles. Fucking Crystal Dynamics was even considering porting the game to Mac.

But most of those ports would probably come along late, weeks or months late which would do little to draw the core gamers. I could maybe imagine Resident Evil 6 coming along with the PC version because that's a proven franchise on Nintendo consoles, but I wouldn't be surprised if none of those other games ever made it to the Wii U. Although, I don't think the mature content is enough reason to keep Far Cry 3 away from the Wii U. Just look at Zombie U.

 

[Spieler Eins]

Yeah, it's really gotten crazy. People are expecting Japanese games ? Games for 2013 ? Maybe even some teasers ? Wow....crazy.

Sorry. I understand how annoying all our complaining can be, but really they haven't shown an awful lot. Most Nintendo games seem rather lackluster (e.g. Wii Fit U or NSMBU) or simply don't interest me (e.g. Pikmin 3/P-100), late 3rd party ports are not really doing much for me either. I just need something that blows me away and I'm expecting them to show me that they have 3rd party support, words mean nothing.



I don't believe that it's impossible for them to port 2013 titles. Fucking Crystal Dynamics was even considering porting the game to Mac.

While I don't think they'll blow anybody away games-wise, I gotta say if that 3 SKU rumour is true then Reggie was right. I'd really be positively surprised, 250 seems very fair and like a decent plus overall.
Though, since the general mood led to the 3DS overpricing, this years backlash hopefully let them get their shit together sooner than later. I imagine the latest NSMB cash-in on 3DS doesn't really bring the results they were hoping for either, so they might realize that they are betting on the wrong horse in the long run with their current WiiU actions.
But imo it's too late to expect any game ,,megatons'' next week.