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Summer 2012 Anime |OT3| Where All the Waifus Are Made Up and the Points Don't Matter

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Jex

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I liked the way it looked. It was true to Adachi with some modern day feel to it - I guess one could consider that cheap and ugly. Nice to see something hearken back to the days of Touch.

I disagree. It was 'true to Adachi', I suppose, in that it maintained his original character designs without really watering them down. In this sense it clearly harkens back to Touch. However what does not harken back to Touch is any of background art, something which is present in just about every shot of the show. Good background art is extremely important in establishing place, character, mood and so forth. Or, to put it another way:

Right now, in anime, there's a real shortage of designers who do artistic designs, which are absolutely necessary to work in the details. When a room like this is shown, it's really just a box and there's nothing to it. You don't feel anything from the room, and it's just a backdrop. The story part and the world part are completely separate.

For whatever reason the studio behind Cross Game, SynergySP, don't give two shits about this. As such you get stuff like this:

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Everything in the background is pretty low detail, no-one's worried about the colour balance or giving any semblance of depth to the spaces and it just looks bad. It's got that "bad digital art" thing going on. Here's a particular egregious example:

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In this picture Kou is at the front of the shot, there's a basket with balls in and then his Dad on the next layer, than the shop front is the next layer and finally at the very back you can see through the open door into the back of the shop. However, for whatever reason, all these things look like they're on exactly the same layer because no-one has bothered giving the art any depth. This is not something that you'd find with quite such prevalence in Touch!.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz278/Jexhius/CrossGame1_zps9738b8cd.jpg
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz278/Jexhius/CrossGame5_zps969cc299.jpg
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz278/Jexhius/CrossGame6_zps2c56ce12.jpg

Everything in the background is pretty low detail, no-one's worried about the colour balance or giving any semblance of depth to the spaces and it just looks bad. It's got that "bad digital art" thing going on. Here's a particular egregious example:

http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz278/Jexhius/CrossGame4_zps5d952437.jpg

In this picture Kou is at the front of the shot, there's a basket with balls in and then his Dad on the next layer, than the shop front is the next layer and finally at the very back you can see through the open door into the back of the shop. However, for whatever reason, all these things look like they're on exactly the same layer because no-one has bothered giving the art any depth. This is not something that you'd find with quite such prevalence in Touch!.

Oh fuck, I totally forgot what the show looked like. :(
 
Seirei no Moribito- fin

Excellent Choice! I've seen this series all the way through about three times in the past 4 years... It's part of a certain sense of place I can only get from watching a select style of anime that doesn't get made often:

  • This
  • Juuni Kokuki
  • Saiunkoku Monogatari
  • Kemono no Souja Erin
  • Arslan Senki
  • Utawarerumono
  • Stranger: Mukou Hadan
  • Guin Saga
 
Jinrui Special

Chibi watashi. <3

I loved the show so I want season 2 so I bought all the LN's I want to know what happen next.

Didn't know was so hard to find something from 2007 in the internet, had to use Amazon.jp. Volume 7 arrives next week. =D
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Polar Bear Café 23
Red Panda is such a responsible and caring worker. Or: everything Panda-kun never will be.
Oh Handa-san, if only you were as swift in your love life as you are with puns.
Welp, those are moms alright.

I also adore the new ending. The way this show implements real life footage for the ending sections makes me wish for a stop-motion variation, at least for one episode.
 

Tomat

Wanna hear a good joke? Waste your time helping me! LOL!
Remove the good part and that's how I felt about the very little I watched.

I didn't really say the show was good (although I do enjoy it), just that it's "stupid in a good way."

The show is stupid and it knows that. I really like Tori because of this. He's a complete moron who maintains a happy attitude and all times, even when shit seems to get real. Plus every character has a shit eating grin at some point during the show which is hilarious IMO.

We've seen way more of this show than of Pyscho Pass.

Are you guy's looking forward to this at all? I read the first few volumes of the manga and it wasn't that bad! Could be a decent show.
 

Jex

Member
Excellent Choice! I've seen this series all the way through about three times in the past 4 years... It's part of a certain sense of place I can only get from watching a select style of anime that doesn't get made often:

  • This
  • Juuni Kokuki
  • Saiunkoku Monogatari
    [*]Kemono no Souja Erin
  • Arslan Senki
  • Utawarerumono
  • Stranger: Mukou Hadan
  • Guin Saga

My man! Not that I can really recommend it to anyone because it's kind of long and inconsistent. If someone had, say, 100 hours to spare and felt like editing the whole show down into a much tighter work by lopping out all the repeated padding it would be an amazing series.
 
Gundam Seed Destiny 44

This hasn't been near as bad as I was expecting. almost all the new characters have sucked and I have really disliked Cagalli in Destiny.
Shinn is easily the worst character from any Gundam though.
 
I wish it wasn't set inside a game. The concept of a bunch of people stranded on an island forced to blow each other up using mysterious techno-bombs is cool, but much less so when it's diluted through a VR filter. Still, I'll give it a shot.

And this is a total nitpick, but the title is pretty dumb.

It's not set inside a game....

Are you guy's looking forward to this at all? I read the first few volumes of the manga and it wasn't that bad! Could be a decent show.

I'm excited for it because I read the manga.
 
My man! Not that I can really recommend it to anyone because it's kind of long and inconsistent. If someone had, say, 100 hours to spare and felt like editing the whole show down into a much tighter work by lopping out all the repeated padding it would be an amazing series.

I agree with you on it being inconsistent at times (I felt it was in both story, and strangely enough, art though I'm typically not one to notice those kinds of things unless it begins to distract my focus on the story) but I never pass up a chance to see animes that follows a character from childhood into adulthood. The series really does things to the character that I love to see in a long format. I think cut down to a 39 episode series may have been enough and 26 episodes would have probably damaged the story.
 
Wait wut. I could have sworn the setup was the protag wakes up and finds himself inside the game BTOOOM! It even has them sitting at computers with headsets and stuff.

The setup from Wikipedia:

Sakamoto Ry&#363;ta is an unemployed 22-year-old who lives with his mother. In the real world, there may be nothing really special about him, but online, he's one of the world's top players of the combat game called Btooom!.

One day, he awakes in what appears to be a tropical island, though he has no memory of how or why he has come to be there. While wandering around, Ry&#333;ta sees someone and calls out for help. The stranger responds by throwing a bomb at him! Now Ry&#333;ta realizes both that his life is in danger and that he has somehow been trapped in a real-life version of his favorite game! Will Ry&#333;ta be able to survive long enough to figure out how and why he ended up here?
 

Branduil

Member
I disagree. It was 'true to Adachi', I suppose, in that it maintained his original character designs without really watering them down. In this sense it clearly harkens back to Touch. However what does not harken back to Touch is any of background art, something which is present in just about every shot of the show. Good background art is extremely important in establishing place, character, mood and so forth. Or, to put it another way:

In this picture Kou is at the front of the shot, there's a basket with balls in and then his Dad on the next layer, than the shop front is the next layer and finally at the very back you can see through the open door into the back of the shop. However, for whatever reason, all these things look like they're on exactly the same layer because no-one has bothered giving the art any depth. This is not something that you'd find with quite such prevalence in Touch!.

There certainly was a lot of bad background art in the early days of digital. There still is, but some studios have been making great strides in that area.

If I had to make a list of studios who consistently make an effort to have interesting backgrounds and thoughtful art design, I'd put down

-KyoAni


-Brains Base


-Production I.G.


Other studios can produce nice art direction, of course, I just don't think they're as reliable as those three. Brains Base's improvement in that area, through their partnership with Studio Pable, is especially impressive because they used to be quite inconsistent.
 
Wait wut. I could have sworn the setup was the protag wakes up and finds himself inside the game BTOOOM! It even has them sitting at computers with headsets and stuff.

The sitting at computer stuff is a flashback.

The premise is essentially this. There's this rumor thing where people can send other people they don't like to this program. The people chosen for the program are then sent to an island where they have to kill each other with different kinds of futuristic bombs they're given.

The main character was some gamer recluse before being sent to the island, and he notices the bombs and other equipment the island people are given is similar to stuff from his favorite online game, Btooom! He figures that the game company set it all up and it's pretty much a real-life playtesting of a future game's mechanics with all the footage captured and stuff.
 

duckroll

Member
Other studios can produce nice art direction, of course, I just don't think they're as reliable as those three. Brains Base's improvement in that area, through their partnership with Studio Pable, is especially impressive because they used to be quite inconsistent.

If you're talking about consistency, I'm not sure why you'll pick Production IG. They have their fair share of duds too. :p

Edit: BONES, Ufotable, and A-1 Pictures are also studios which would easily be notable for having solid backgrounds in most of their shows as well.
 

fertygo

Member
Urobuchi still have unannounced TV anime for january right?

Q: Urobuchi is very busy with the Fate/ZeroMadoka Magica movies and your Toei project Exiled From Paradise. Do you have any plans to go back to writing novels after these finish up?

Urobuchi: Well, the release date for Exiled from Paradise hasn't been decided yet and I'm working on two more TV projects. One will be released in October and the other in January. (turns to Iwakami) Is it okay I said that?

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/convention/2012/sakura-con/14
 
The sitting at computer stuff is a flashback.

The premise is essentially this. There's this rumor thing where people can send other people they don't like to this program. The people chosen for the program are then sent to an island where they have to kill each other with different kinds of futuristic bombs they're given.

The main character was some gamer recluse before being sent to the island, and he notices the bombs and other equipment the island people are given is similar to stuff from his favorite online game, Btooom! He figures that the game company set it all up and it's pretty much a real-life playtesting of a future game's mechanics with all the footage captured and stuff.
Might be cool. I bet his mom sent him there.

"Jesus christ kid get the fuck out of my house already."
Good thing I'm employed now or I too would be at risk of getting stuck in a virtual world.
Werd.
 
Brains Base's improvement in that area, through their partnership with Studio Pable, is especially impressive because they used to be quite inconsistent.

I think you should be careful to start holding up Brains Base as a shining example just because of two shows which share an art director/studio. It's not like they'll be using Studio Pablo for all their productions from now on. (Pablo's next productions, by the way, will be a 5 minute show starting next winter, a 1 cour show next spring, and another 1 cour show next summer.) For next season, Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun looks like it'll have some nice backgrounds but Ixion Saga DT probably won't have much to offer.
 

cajunator

Banned
Excellent Choice! I've seen this series all the way through about three times in the past 4 years... It's part of a certain sense of place I can only get from watching a select style of anime that doesn't get made often:

  • This
  • Juuni Kokuki
  • Saiunkoku Monogatari
  • Kemono no Souja Erin
  • Arslan Senki
  • Utawarerumono
  • Stranger: Mukou Hadan
  • Guin Saga

Its cool that you mention these.
I love this kind of show too.
Particularly 12 kingdoms, story of saiunkoku, utawarerumono, and guin saga.
 

duckroll

Member
Seems kinda hard to be the lead writer for one show then work on a completely different one unless the secondary job is pretty minor.

Tell that to Yousuke Kuroda, Mari Okada, Reiko Yoshida, or pretty much any other veteran anime screenwriter. It's just part of the job if you want to expand your presence in the industry.
 

cajunator

Banned
I was thoroughly enjoying Space Brothers 23 until the CGI plane. I blame AnimeGAF for killing my innocence.

Serika is so adorable. Surprising considering she's an old hag by anime standards.

Yeah Ive noted that in several of my impressions. Serika is absolutely adorable and I love her.
 
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