Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Ayup, that's my next phone.
-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
Android, iOS, WP8 phone debate thread
- Thread starter Scuba Steve
- Start date
- Status
Ayup, that's my next phone.
The Faceless Master
Member
wait... what?
are maps that big of a thing? can't people just use Waze and/or Google Maps Mobile Web?
i mean, i know it's not as convenient but...
Planar Paradox and another so far I think. Bodycount rising :|
I agree. One of the best side effects of Samsungs ad campaigns is that it successfully placed them as the competitor to the iPhone. Nokia is smart to now go and push themselves into that space and make it a 3 side thing.
These days when people are talking about competing phones or their operating systems you see people mentioning Samsung as if they are the only Android manufacturer :lol Its crazy. Should Nokia keep pushing, they can earn that same respect for themselves for Windows phones, assuming they dont have it already.
The Faceless Master
Member
wait... what!?
*goes to read*
aorange999
Member
I'm buying an iPhone 5 over the weekend slipping it into a nice case and using it until the Lumia 920 comes out, which I will sell the iPhone to by.
Finally Nokia has made a phone that can rival an iPhone. I'm an ex Nokia fanboy so feels good man. I have an iPad2 and wife is getting the new iPad
so I feel like I won't miss too much of iOS innovations. I have used Android, Symbian, iOS and Maemo. Maemo (Nokia N9 software) was by far the best, most open and most capable OS I have ever used. RIP Meego.
Finally Nokia has made a phone that can rival an iPhone. I'm an ex Nokia fanboy so feels good man. I have an iPad2 and wife is getting the new iPad
so I feel like I won't miss too much of iOS innovations. I have used Android, Symbian, iOS and Maemo. Maemo (Nokia N9 software) was by far the best, most open and most capable OS I have ever used. RIP Meego.
Agreed with this. Nokia does what Appleon't. but I'm getting an iPhone. Unfortunately, neither Sprint nor Microsoft are in a position where it would be practical to sell/carry the Lumia 920 and I don't know of any other WP of comparable quality.
huh wtf ? link >
soapypanda
Member
I feel bad for windows and their 4 point something % marketshare. Metro is polarizing, someone people love it, some people hate it.
Damon Bennet
Member
and most dont know about it. yet.
and if most know about it, i bet microsoft will be just glad to have the metro-liking people buy their phone. I just dont know how they can beat windows phone's OS prowess into people's minds
Psychotext
Member
You could say that about most things.
Key is getting the word out so that enough of the people who will love it will see it and buy it. Same as a lot of things in business, find your audience and you're pretty much set.
Let's say we accept that at face value (though arguments could certainly be made) ... last time I checked this was an Android, iOS, WP8 debate thread :\
That's why I really liked the Lumia 900's display, even if it was low-res. Non-pentile (SAMOLED+), and their ClearBlack tames the saturation and artifacts a bit.
Still Pentile technically, but looks to be a huge improvement.one more vote for Galaxy Note II
I'm curious to see how whites and fonts look.
It's not up to them. The HW is done, but MS's slipped the RTM date (though it went gold last week).
Unless something disastrous happens though, several sources (including AT&T) are putting it at last week October - first week November.
Agreed ... which makes this thread all the more amusing.
Wasn't sure where to put this as it's about tech in general, Eric Schmidt at Cornell
http://www.livestream.com/cornellal...e205&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb
http://www.livestream.com/cornellal...e205&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
People don't want to buy 3rd place, distant 3rd place especially. Support is bad, Nokia being the MS partner is the worst part.
Android was third place at one point.
It's not RGB stripe, but it's not PenTile either. AFAIK PenTile always has fewer than 3 sub pixels per pixel.
Infinitely better:
MS having a development platform that is similar across the phone, pc and in the future console should help on the support side.
I must say, whilst not all might like Samsungs designs, they do seem to be at present, one of the most efficient of the big players. Thin borders and least amount of wasted space on the top and bottom spaces.
The iPhone 5's top and bottom segments are far too large, and the 920s screen within a second window seems to add a good degree extra to the edges. I guess that's why the S3 can get away with a 4.8" screen and not look so much bigger than the Lumia 920 or the iPhone 5.
The iPhone 5's top and bottom segments are far too large, and the 920s screen within a second window seems to add a good degree extra to the edges. I guess that's why the S3 can get away with a 4.8" screen and not look so much bigger than the Lumia 920 or the iPhone 5.
Yeah sorry ... I was using PenTile as a colloquialism for non-symmetric sub-pixel layouts. It's a more specific definition than that.
Wow ... really niceInfinitely better:
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
What does that even mean? Good luck making an app for a ARM processor for a phone scale to a x86 PC. Lowest common denominator code?
Is that a bakery?
It means the framework and api's for developing across those platforms is very similar. Of course certain applications would not translate well to phones, both in terms of interface and in power requirements, but there are lots and lots of applications that will work well across the spectrum. Especially consumption applications.
Psychotext
Member
I genuinely don't see the point in that. Wouldn't you get it faster by pre-ordering it?
Plus... you know... not waste days of your life?
Plus... you know... not waste days of your life?
A friend of mine went to an Apple store at 4:30am in the morning, got home several hours later. TFL costs and all. Another of my friends got hers delivered at 8:30am on the dot. Seriously, what the hell is the point? Just get the thing delivered.
The Faceless Master
Member
some people like the experience of being in line. the anticipation, the crowd, the excitement!
Psychotext
Member
I nearly came in my pants just thinking about it.
http://m.usatoday.com/article/tech/57815108
haha yea ok that explains it. that line is the only place to get that experience.
haha yea ok that explains it. that line is the only place to get that experience.
Those people are so delusional. In related news, $1500 to be first in line in SF! http://mashable.com/2012/09/20/iphone-5-line/
This is madness.
For anyone on the fence; $50 bucks for a RazrM on contract through wirefly.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...50-with-new-contract-or-upgrade-from-wirefly/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...50-with-new-contract-or-upgrade-from-wirefly/
Is there a line?
Some delicious salty Apple haters in those comments, goddamn they mad.
EightBitNate
Member
Look, Anti-Apple GAF, I don't get mad at you. I don't even mind. I hate the random sleeze that comment on all mainstream media, crying about how underground they are and how Apple is mainstream. Boo-hoo. It's a fucking company that makes a goddamn phone. I've never hated a single thing as much they hate Apple.
I feel like you quoted the wrong person or something.
So while visiting the AT&T store to have phones switched around I was approached by several people trying to show off how amazing their Android phones were.
So I allowed them to show me.
First thing, with each phone, I visited the home screen and swiped left and right. On each phone I was greeted with the same sub-60 fps framerate. This includes the S3, Note, Xperia, along with a couple HTC phones. The same experience on each. I even had the guy restart the S3 for me just to make sure it wasn't being bogged down.
Popped open a browser and was met with the same laggy zoom and scrolling. OK, it seemed snappier than before, but it still wasn't providing the same perfect 60 fps you'd get from an iPhone.
They showed off the HDMI out feature and used Angry Birds as a demonstration. He's standing there saying how it looks awesome and is lag free. I don't want to be hard on the guy so I just let him pitch, but the thing is running at 30 fps and there is definitely noticeable input lag present.
So, what's up here? Every phone I tried still had sub-par user experience. The interface is fine and there are definitely some really cool features available, but man, it just isn't as smooth as I expect. They have nothing on Windows Phone or iOS in that regard.
So I allowed them to show me.
First thing, with each phone, I visited the home screen and swiped left and right. On each phone I was greeted with the same sub-60 fps framerate. This includes the S3, Note, Xperia, along with a couple HTC phones. The same experience on each. I even had the guy restart the S3 for me just to make sure it wasn't being bogged down.
Popped open a browser and was met with the same laggy zoom and scrolling. OK, it seemed snappier than before, but it still wasn't providing the same perfect 60 fps you'd get from an iPhone.
They showed off the HDMI out feature and used Angry Birds as a demonstration. He's standing there saying how it looks awesome and is lag free. I don't want to be hard on the guy so I just let him pitch, but the thing is running at 30 fps and there is definitely noticeable input lag present.
So, what's up here? Every phone I tried still had sub-par user experience. The interface is fine and there are definitely some really cool features available, but man, it just isn't as smooth as I expect. They have nothing on Windows Phone or iOS in that regard.
I've compared my S3 to a couple of iPhones (a 4 and a 4S) owned by friends and they were impressed at how fast and smooth my phone is compared to theirs.
How come you had 5 different people come up to you in a store wanting to show off their phones though? That's a bit weird isn't it?
It wasn't 5 people, it was actually AT&T reps and they were passing a card around which, if you had it stamped, would win you a prize.
I went ahead and did it.
I know framerates and the S3 isn't as smooth. Period.
*shrug* All the phones you played with had, at most, ICS - which is good, don't get me wrong - but ICS still suffers from that almost imperceptible lag. It doesn't really happen with JB. Look at some Youtube side by sides of ICS vs JB to get the comparison.
After owning a Gnex the past 6 months and several other Android phones before it (Even the S3 for a bit). All my iPhones were much smoother and I can feel your sentiment on the lag. I don't understand how all these Androids users don't see it or feel it.
My Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 were just as smooth as the iPad 3 I owned earlier this year. The only difference is that android animations tend to be faster and may appear jankier as a result. I'm an animator and I literally stare at frames of animation all day everyday so yeah I can see the difference or lack thereof.
- Status