I'm also in the save abuser's group. I don't really get bored of the game because of it but it does certainly take the suspense out of the game somewhat. That's why ironman right from the start for me too.
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XCOM: Enemy Unknown |OT| Neo GAF is Under Alien Control
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electricpirate
Member
Never played the original xcom, I'm going to go Classic Ironman.
I plan to die painfully a few times.
I plan to die painfully a few times.
Yes, yes you do, especially with the first piece of significant DLC just around the corner!
BabeSlayer
Member
The Wizard
Member
Wait, are they actually doing proper story stuff in dlc? Hope it turns out good if they are, Sleeping Dogs is one of my favourite games so far this year.
This excitement for XCOM got me thinking about the original game. And that got me thinking about the games that gave birth to XCOM: Laser Squad and Rebelstar.
These may not be familiar to US gamers, as they were originally on the ZX Spectrum. But we Brit strategy gamers grew up loving this stuff. Here's a nice little nostalgia trip I found that people might find interesting http://www.lasersquad.org/index.php
These may not be familiar to US gamers, as they were originally on the ZX Spectrum. But we Brit strategy gamers grew up loving this stuff. Here's a nice little nostalgia trip I found that people might find interesting http://www.lasersquad.org/index.php
Any articles that compare UFO Defense with Enemy Unknown? I'm just wondering what has changed and what has stayed the same? Is it fair to call this a "remake" or is it more of a sequel?
For example, are base attacks still in? I know there is only one base now instead of multiple bases. Would be cool to find a comparision list.
For example, are base attacks still in? I know there is only one base now instead of multiple bases. Would be cool to find a comparision list.
bonesmccoy
Banned
It's a remake, and thank goodness for that! The X-Com sequels have been notoriously poor.
edit: I don't think there are 'random' base attacks like there were in the original game. But there's probably a story mission that involves that scenario.
Preorder cancelled. Should have been 9.6->
fluffydelusions
Member
So I downloaded the demo and played until the end but I just didn't have any fun. You send a guy behind cover and he shoots until the enemy is dead. Rinse and repeat. Was I doing something wrong or was the demo just too easy? I'm wondering where the "fun" is in this game. I like the idea of it but it just didn't click.
fluffydelusions
Member
The Wizard
Member
Yeah, it was on easy mode
And it was basically a tutorial + the first mission or so. I bet this game gets a lot more demanding later on, especially on higher difficulties.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
From the gameinformer review:
Oh lord. This is the only thing that can keep the game down imo. Hope they release a map editor or something.
Oh lord. This is the only thing that can keep the game down imo. Hope they release a map editor or something.
The reason I haven't tried the x-com demo ( well other than it being 5gb or so ._. ) is the same reason I would never try a demo for say Civ.
You could easily boil down civ to say "you move your unit 2 cells and then click 'build building x' and then end turn for 500 turns", the gameplay per se in x-com is actually being invested in the situation, having soldiers you rank up and gear up ( and sadly have their pictures put up at the memorial
), how you decide the layout of your base, deciding which country to help etc etc etc there's just so much and that's not even touching the actual combat ( which if you view some MP-vids between devs can be quite strategic, tense and fun )I have faith in what the guys behind the game say : they really want to have good mod support for the game. I'm certain we will be seeing great community made maps, feels like the maps themselves are "simple" and modular ( for the lack of a better term ) so creating new ones shouldn't be difficult for those who have the knowledge.
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Minsc
Gold Member
I wonder if that has something to do with the way the review process is handled... because they said it has ~80 maps and you'd only see between 20-35 on a playthrough so it'd take 3 playthroughs for them to start repeating.
Maybe if you're prone to dying a lot and starting new games you have a higher chance to run through them all or see repeats? Or maybe there's just non-random maps for certain battles that are always the same? I'm sure if the reviewer was playing it over all three systems or something it'd load up the same maps for each system, it might have some tracking method that is set per user account to help not repeat them, so playing under different accounts could also raise the chances of seeing repeats.
Disappointing though, for sure.
Also would have been great if there were a random map generator for multiplayer as well, so you never know what to expect going in.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Crud.
Oh you know what would be great, if we had somekind of GAF-league for the different Ironman difficulties. See which people who a) even manage to finish the game and b) do it "first" ( something tells me it's going to take a while before people beat classic ironman, let alone impossible ironman )
Minsc
Gold Member
There's always room for more with expansions and DLC! And hopefully mods, maybe a few weapon packs that add a dozen or two new weapons to the game.
I wonder if mods will be able to be used in multiplayer too, could be more interesting to mix it up a lot.
There's always room for more with expansions and DLC! And hopefully mods, maybe a few weapon packs that add a dozen or two new weapons to the game.
I wonder if mods will be able to be used in multiplayer too, could be more interesting to mix it up a lot.
I really hope Firaxis show a long and continuous support for this game. Also I'm beginning to think that 'normal' is going to be rather easy, just watched/listened to the video in the GI review article and one of the guys said that he lost between '2-4' soldiers through an entire playthrough.
Heck I'm expecting to lose 2-4 soldiers per mission.
Boogalogist
Member
Wow..that's a damn good review score! Can't wait to play this next week!
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Well, I mean, the original had like three maps. The 80 or so this has is almost guaranteed to be a step up.
BabeSlayer
Member
Dude was probably playing on easy without ironman....nansy pansy
BabeSlayer
Member
Love your avatar so much. Space Quest right? Such a classic....
afternoon delight
Member
A worry of mine too, except their support for Civ 5 (minus cheap assing content) has been continuous.
Partial Gamification
Banned
Thanks for this, I had never heard of these games. These make me think back to Laser Tag.
wise choice. wonderful game. have fun.
Nice, a game I can actually preload right now *stares at GMG*
Wat. The original had randomized level generation with well over three tilesets.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Really? "Three" was hyperbole, of course, but it always felt like the same maps. Wasn't randomized level generation only added with XComUtil?
I've been replaying TFTD and the terror missions definitely feel like the same maps over and over.
Yay. Will definitely do that this weekend. One of the perks of pre-ordering with Steam. Early relaxed preloading.
I'm all but committed to ironman right now. The only question in my mind is Normal or Classic. Such a tough choice.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
There's an option to ignore geography. So like, you could land in Texas and the game might randomly generate an arctic tileset instead.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I was going to start off with Classic, but I think I'm going to change to Normal instead. I want to beat the game quickly so I can go into multiplayer without spoiling anything.
Besides, they say the Normal -> Classic jump in difficulty makes the experience a lot different, so I can stretch the replay value a bit more.
bonesmccoy
Banned
What are the differences between 'Normal' and 'Classic'?
It was definitely there from the beginning. It's all a bit prefab, though. Like, there are only a few house variations and the randomness comes in how everything is stitched together. I would happily take an XCOM delay if they could find a way to bring back random level generation.
Biggest differences I've picked up on his more enemies, and more difficult enemies sooner. Plus, on normal you get the Officer Training School given to you while you have to buy and build it on Classic & Impossible.
PixelHorror
Member
Some people are starting to get GMG keys.
Maps in vanilla UFO are randomly generated. It puts together pre-built "map blocks", so maps look samey-ish because of that.
Tilesets are (memory):
urban
farm
jungle
desert
mountain
forest
arctic
x-com base
alien base
and final mission terrain.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Minsc
Gold Member
There seems to be a good summary posted by a user in the 2K forums:
Edit: There's also a recent 27 minute video talking about the differences as well.
Video that goes with the Game Informer review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53e1xdpx3zY&list=UUK-65DO2oOxxMwphl2tYtcw&index=1&feature=plcp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53e1xdpx3zY&list=UUK-65DO2oOxxMwphl2tYtcw&index=1&feature=plcp
That's a fantastic summary of the difficulty levels.
I think it's worth mentioning that the Officer Training school is a biggie. Without it you are limited to 4 squad members until you build it. With it you get 6. So with Classic and above, not only are the aliens tougher and smarter, but you have a smaller squad to deal with them.