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Medal of Honor Warfighter review codes being sent on day 1?

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jwhit28

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The review outlets are the leech in this situation. With all the dev blogs, Nintendo Direct style clips and gameplay videos that instantly hit the internet, why do we need the middleman gaming outlets?

The 2k devs streaming on twitch.tv did more to sell me on XCOM than any glowing review could have.
 
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netBuff

Member
jwhit28 said:
The review outlets are the leech in this situation. With all the dev blogs, Nintendo Direct style clips and gameplay videos that instantly hit the internet, why do we need the middleman gaming outlets?

The 2k devs streaming on twitch.tv did more to sell me on XCOM than any glowing review could have.
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You are being ridiculous. The value in having independent reviews is that they are independent. We need the "middlemen" because the company that is trying to sell you something is never going to give you a straight and honest opinion on their product.

Stuff like dev blogs, Nintendo Direct style clips and gameplay videos by a games marketing team exist, because publishers want to control as much of a products marketing message as possible.
 
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jwhit28

Member
netBuff said:
You are being ridiculous. The value in having independent reviews is that they are independent. We need the "middleman" because the company that is trying to sell you something is never going to give you a straight and honest opinion on their product.
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Except they aren't totally independent and very rarely is a review from a big site considered on the dot or not influenced at all by publishers. I much rather get a demo/long gameplay video, and a simple "is it worth it?" answer from a few Gaffers.
 
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DTKT

Member
jwhit28 said:
Except they aren't totally independent and very rarely is a review from a big site considered on the dot or not influenced at all by publishers. I much rather get a demo/long gameplay video, and a simple "is it worth it?" answer from a few Gaffers.
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At the same time, a demo or a gameplay sequence can totally be fine tuned to be shown. It might not even represent the finished product.
 
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netBuff

Member
jwhit28 said:
Except they aren't totally independent and very rarely is a review from a big site considered on the dot or not influenced at all by publishers. I much rather get a demo/long gameplay video, and a simple "is it worth it?" answer from a few Gaffers.
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Which press outlet you think is independent is for you to decide - but most claims of foul play seem to stem from people that aren't willing to accept that the game they are going to buy might not be the best video game ever.

GAF hype threads are a poor indicator on a games quality, as people tend to make absurdly hyperbolic statements on forums on a games quality (good as well as bad). There's also the fact that plenty of marketing people are active on NeoGAF. I see value in having reasonable people that are able to contextualize review games - most forum users are neither reasonable nor able to reasonably indicate a games shortcomings. Extremist statements out of temporary anger are, sadly, the norm.

And let's take a look at who's definitively not independent: The person that is trying to sell you a game.
 
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Macho Madness

Member
To be honest, GAF is probably the last place I'd go for a quality indicator of a game. Has its place, but there's a ton of misinformed people on both sides of any game. That, and there's hardly any middle ground found.
 
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Dibbz

Member
netBuff said:
Which press outlet you think is independent is for you to decide - but most claims of foul play seem to stem from people that aren't willing to accept that the game they are going to buy might not be the best video game ever.
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Quite the opposite. Most claims of foul play come from reviews giving 10's when the game is steaming hot shite. Just go read any CoD review or the infamous GTA 4 review or Skyrim PS3 reviews which were copy paste of the 360 version and told people to buy a broken game etc etc. There are endless counts of foul play when it comes to games journalism.

If they don't get a game on time yeah there might be some funny business afoot from EA, or maybe they are just running really late but none the less reviewers recommendations ain't worth shit anyway so no big loss.
 
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Saty

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Related:

Analyst Doug Creutz sees game struggling to hit 2m sales worldwide
Electronic Arts is set to ship Medal of Honor: Warfighter this week in the US, Europe and Australia (with a Japanese release slated for mid-November), but there's no denying that it'll be a tough shooter market to launch into with Call of Duty: Black Ops II and Halo 4 both looking for big sales. In fact, Cowen and Company analyst Doug Creutz said that the new Medal of Honor is "likely to be a major disappointment" and will "struggle" to reach 2 million sales across the globe.
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While we believe Street expectations for MoH:W sales have moderated significantly, likely down to the 3-4MM unit range, we are concerned that those expectations may still be too high. Based on our read of pre-release tracking data, we think the game might struggle to sell through 2MM units worldwide," Creutz stated.
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Creutz added, "With only a week before a murderer's row of AAA titles begins to come out (Assassin's Creed III on October 30; Halo 4 on November 6; Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 on November 13), we think MoH:W has a very short window to capture sales, and a dearth of reviews is unlikely to help. The decision to make early review copies unavailable does not suggest to us that the company has a high degree of confidence in the quality of the game."
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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...arfighter-likely-to-be-a-major-disappointment
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Apparently they wanted it to be reviewed with this comically monstrous day one patch: https://help.ea.com/article/medal-of-honor-warfighter-day-1-patch-notes

New Features:
•Now able to add friends and join parties while in-game.
•Can invite others to your platoon or apply to join a platoon while in-game.

General Tweaks and Fixes
Multiplayer Gameplay
•Removed initial delay to Spec Ops Signal Scan charging.
•Snipers in Recon stance will no longer be visible to enemy RQ7/RQ11 UAVs.
•Increased the accuracy of server-side aiming prediction.
•Fixed an issue with “Fall Back” spawning to improve its behavior.
•Fixed spawn type changing to Buddy Spawn automatically when it is not supposed to.
•Call in a Blackhawk for the losing team if they are getting dominated in Sector Control.

Single-Player Gameplay
•Added tutorial text to first sniper encounter to help teach player about bullet drop.
•Fixed an issue where the default difficulty was set to Easy instead of Normal.
•Fixed an issue where controls would become unresponsive under certain conditions.
•Fixed an issue with one of the in-game cinematics.
•Improved single player stability and fixed progression stoppers.

Matchmaking, Parties, and Platoons
•Smoothed out the matchmaking flow between successful matchmaking and joining the player to the game.
•Players can no longer join an invitation only party without being invited.
•Fixed issues with joining single players together into Fireteams.
•Fixed an issue where Veteran platoon members could not reach Elite status.
•Platoon ownership is now automatically transferred to the most senior member/GM of the platoon when the current leader leaves the
platoon.
•Fixed an issue where a member that is removed from a platoon becomes its leader.
•Fixed an issue where players could not rejoin the same platoon matchmaking server after playing a game on that server.
•If a player leaves one platoon and joins another, their platoon card now properly reflects that change.
•Fixed an issue where the platoon patch would not show up for other members if one member leaves the platoon.
•Fixed another issue where the platoon patch would no longer show up under certain circumstances.
•Sending a platoon invite when both players are in-game now works properly.

Weapons
•Fixed “no scope” shooting. Players were getting immediate ADS accuracy without having to wait for the scope to come all the way up. Was very exploitable for snipers.
•Sped up the bolt action on the CS5, since it was longer than the TAC300.
•Fixed issue with gap between where the LTLM can’t fire and where it indicates the target is too close.
•Reduced the damage/range of the Demolition’s SMGs (Scar PDW, HK 416c, Suchka), as they were overpowered.
•Made switching between primary and secondary weapons much more responsive.
•Fixed an issue where a grenade would not be thrown the next time if the user switches to their weapon while cooking a grenade.
•Player will now switch back to their secondary weapon if that is the weapon in use when throwing their last grenade.
•Fixed an issue where aiming was pushing the player away from the wall they were standing next to.
•Fixed clearance check for placing the Radar Jammer.
•Fixed auto-ADS not working when peek-and-leaning while prone.
•Implemented pre-streaming for weapons to reduce the time from spawn to ready-to-fire to be 0 seconds in most cases. Down from around 2 seconds prior to this fix.

UI and User Experience
Navigation
•Made the start button responsive as soon as the player enters the first menu screen.
•Simplified the way players navigate and select in the My Gun and Class Select menus.
•Fixed the way the UI handles scrolling, including speed and correct scroll bar position.
•Cleaned up a number of other small navigation quirks and issues.

User Experience
•Servers in the Server Browser are now sorted based on ping, giving priority to servers closest to the player.
•Filtering servers by name now works properly.
•Fixed an issue where changes in My Gun and My Soldier were not being retained when joining a game via the Quick Match or Matchmaking options in the MP Lobby.
•Optimized the login flow into Multiplayer.
•Updated the MP Lobby to include a shortcut to creating a Party.
•Quick Match button in the MP Lobby is now contextual, and will change to Platoon Matchmaking if you are in a Platoon Party.
•Fixed the Server Browser filter to properly sort for games that have 6+ open slots.
•Fixed a 20 second hang during the Online Pass flow.
•We now keep the queuing message open as long as the player is still queuing.
•Clean up notification numbers when a new item is viewed.
•Various other flow and user experience optimizations.

Visual Polish
•We now turn off the HUD when we start to show the outro scoreboard.
•Fixed display of text in disabled dropdowns.
•Fixed some subtitle lines being cut off.
•Removed hints and tips from the loading screens that were no longer valid.
•Fixed the Player Banners to display the correct rank icon and number.
•Fixed placement of auto-save icon on CRT TVs.
•Fixed HUD elements not showing in certain cases.
•Fixed animations in the post-match screens as they show the player’s progression.
•Fixed the timer not displaying in the post-match screens.
•Fixed player name tags not showing up in-game in Home Run.
•Icons are now scaled on the sniper’s mini-map when they are using the bipod.
•Updated the art used in the Player Banner.
•Fixed some camera issues on level entry.
•Fixed the demolitions class mask display in certain situations.
•Fixed an issue that would cause some images not to display properly.
•Various other alignment, corruption, overlap and visual improvements and fixes.

Misc Fixes
•Fixed an issue where the Battlelog social hub introduction was showing every time you opened the Battlelog social hub.
•VOIP team channel no longer includes players from the other team.
•Round cycling no longer changes VOIP settings for the players
•Fixed an issue with VOIP in the Home Run game mode.
•Fixed an issue where Double XP was not being awarded to players who had both logged on to medalofhonor.com and who had played on a multiplayer server.
•Fixed an issue where the Global Warfighter medal was not being awarded after players had completed a tour with each class.
•Fixed muffled firing sounds when scope is zoomed in.
•Localization fixes, in both audio and text.

Additional Fixes Made on PC and PS3
Multiplayer Gameplay
•Improved the camera for the Apache.
•Improved the aiming of the rockets in the Apache.
•Improved Blackhawk functionality in Novi Grad Warzone.
•Fixed a bug in the rules for pre-round in Combat Mission.
•Fixed a couple of out of bounds issues in Sarajevo Stadium.
•Fixed an out of bounds issue in Basilan Aftermath.
•Fixed a bad spawn point in Team Deathmatch in Somalia Stronghold.
•(PS3 – Japan) Fixed an issue that prevented 17-year old users from playing online.

Visual Polish
•Fixed an issue where support action icons were overlapping each other.
•Kill messages should now better match timing within gameplay.
•Improved readability of kill messages.
•Fixed visual effects issue in Tungawan Jungle.
•Fixed mini-map issue in Shogore Valley.
•Improved visual fidelity of some of the flag images.
•Smoothed transitions between screens in the Mulitplayer menus.
•Fixed a visual glitch when adjusting the brightness in the Options menu.
•Fixed a bug where the News in the MP Lobby was not showing up.

Misc Fixes
•Removed Quit Game from the Top Navigation Bar in the in-game pause menu and placed it under “Last Resort” in the Respawn Menu.
•Fixed a case of an explosion not playing the correct audio.
•Various audio mix updates.
•(PS3 – Japan) Various stability fixes.
•Fixed functionality and list updates for Favorite and Recent servers.
•Players with chat restrictions are no longer allowed to create their own platoon.
•Platoon names and tags are now restricted to no more than 3 numerals each.
•(PS3 – Japan) Fixed two issues related to platoon names and chat-restricted accounts.
•Fixed an issue with invites specific to PS3 and PC where the player would get stuck on a black screen.
•Various stability and performance improvements.
•(PS3 – Japan) Fixed an issue related to save file size calculation.

Additional Fixes Made on Xbox 360
•Improved the handling of memory cards and saved profiles.
•Improved handling of parties and Fireteam designations in Platoon matches.
•Fixed an issue related to progression loss if the user removes the storage device.
•Fixed an issue where a player’s class was changing without their input.
•Fixed an issue where, under certain circumstances, brand new players were forced to play with a placeholder weapon in multiplayer until
their first death.
•Stability improvements.

Additional Fixes Made on PC
•Fixed an issue where controller prompts were showing even though a controller was not plugged in.
•Mouse wheel now works with all scrolling lists in the game.
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GraveRobberX

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
^

Someone in the OT said it was to deter piracy in some way

I literally had a small stroke while reading that

Left side is numb

Sober said:
Day 0/1 patches aren't even worth complaining about anymore. It just means that the team kept working on the game rather than having it go gold then sitting on their hands until post-launch complaints. Also defers piracy I guess?
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Sethos

Banned
After having actually played the game, I now see they they'd want to keep this bucket of mud away from reviewers.
 
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Grief.exe

Member
netBuff said:
You are being ridiculous. The value in having independent reviews is that they are independent. We need the "middlemen" because the company that is trying to sell you something is never going to give you a straight and honest opinion on their product.

Stuff like dev blogs, Nintendo Direct style clips and gameplay videos by a games marketing team exist, because publishers want to control as much of a products marketing message as possible.
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Implying that independent review sites are independent anymore, some of them might as well be owned by the publishers. Almost zero credibility left in journalism.

Festwill said:
Bucket of delicious mud?
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Delicious $60 mud.

Only in the entertainment industry are people willing to pay for garbage consistently.
 
adamsapple

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Holy shit that is a rather huge list of things they've worked on in the patch. One would say this is the kind of shit they should've fixed in the final bug testing phase.
 
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XANDER CAGE

Member
Single-Player Gameplay
•Added tutorial text to first sniper encounter to help teach player about bullet drop.
•Fixed an issue where the default difficulty was set to Easy instead of Normal.
•Fixed an issue where controls would become unresponsive under certain conditions.
•Fixed an issue with one of the in-game cinematics.
•Improved single player stability and fixed progression stoppers.
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jesus christ, :lol
 
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Aaron

Member
chandoog said:
Holy shit that is a rather huge list of things they've worked on in the patch. One would say this is the kind of shit they should've fixed in the final bug testing phase.
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They clearly didn't have time. Launching this game later would have been a massacre.
 
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SlasherJPC

Banned
So anyone trying to stream the game on twitch is getting the ban hammer and the channel shut. ONLY gamespot can stream till 9 am pst tommorrow! If that isn't the biggest pile crap! I swear. These companies are getting ridiculous and more stupid by the day.
 
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NBtoaster

Member
slasher_thrasher21 said:
So anyone trying to stream the game on twitch is getting the ban hammer and the channel shut. ONLY gamespot can stream till 9 am pst tommorrow! If that isn't the biggest pile crap! I swear. These companies are getting ridiculous and more stupid by the day.
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Seems like one step away from taking down unauthorised screenshots.
 
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JimFear

Banned
can we see the sign of a potential bad game?
i dont see why EA would do this other than they just dont want to see people not buying the game because of bad score.
 
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Sojgat

Member
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JimFear

Banned
i hate when all of the ressources are into the mp portion of the game and the sp portion is only there to say "look we also have a storyline"

I really dont care about moh multiplayer.... But at the end... Its EA so i guess they all put the budget into the mp so they can sell you more dlc map pack.

Also Fuck you frank gibeau
 
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Choc

Banned
Remember how i said its possibly a no russian moment holding it back?


Turns out i was right possibly

mission 2, oh man, fuck thats crazy controversial. Training to storm a 747 cockpit as a terrorist? fuuuuuuuck
 
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ii Stryker

Banned
FB 2 is not ready for prime time confirmed.

It would have better served EA to delay the game into spring and address every issue than try to beat the 3 top contenders(?) for GOTY at retail.

This further shows that EA care only about money and not quality.
 
GraveRobberX

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Mister0079 said:
This video is all you need to know about the game.
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This is like it's so bad it's good meh territory

Love how the FUCKING HELICOPTER which is scripted and on rails, clips through the goddamn platform when it gets shot with an Insta-Rocket!

No one fucking Q&A'ed this?

Holy Fuck

The .gifs for this game are going to be glorious

Danger Close we hardly knew ye, time to follow Papa EA and go to the special ditch to see that special surprise
 
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subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
GraveRobberX said:
This is like it's so bad it's good meh territory

Love how the FUCKING HELICOPTER which is scripted and on rails, clips through the goddamn platform when it gets shot with an Insta-Rocket!

No one fucking Q&A'ed this?
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I think it's a pirated version, unpatched. They've patched cutscenes in day 1 patch.
 
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