One just dropped an album and one didn't.
Be real with your comparisons
Rihanna's score is riding on diamonds which was released a month ago.
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Rihanna's score is riding on diamonds which was released a month ago.
Rihanna's score is riding on diamonds which was released a month ago.
And Taylor's is riding on the fact that she has been releasing songs on iTunes all month, and just released an album.
Just stop
And Taylor's is riding on the fact that she has been releasing songs on iTunes all month, and just released an album.
Just stop
Yes, we've established that.
But don't act like this placement is typical for Rihanna, as I said before, she JUST released a single.
When all this is said and done we will see who remains on top.
Just chiming in to say that I agree that Gaga has been passed up Britney as the Modern Queen of Pop.
She sells more. She's more relevant. She has more visible impact on the industry as it is today. She's more about that life. And, more importantly, Gaga's just getting started. Everything about Britney these days seems to indicate that she's about done.
I'd say Gaga>Rihanna>>>>>>Britney for the crown at this point,.
She sells more. She's more relevant. She has more visible impact on the industry as it is today. She's more about that life. And, more importantly, Gaga's just getting started. Everything about Britney these days seems to indicate that she's about done.
I'd say Gaga>Rihanna>>>>>>Britney for the crown at this point,.
She IS next in line after Brit so I see no lies....
But Britney's legacy and accomplishments far exceed Gaga's. tho of course Gaga is on her way but you are stretching it a bit. Being Queen of Pop isn't just about "being about life" Madonna released MDNA and ppl talk shit but she's STILL Queen of Pop. Britney will always called the Princess/sometimes Queen.
Gaga has a LOONG way to go.
Just because Britney lost her way doesn't stop her from being Pop Royalty
Ain't nothing resembling royalty from Rihanus. The mere fact that she's a subordinate of the Carter family precludes her from being in contention.
The only shimmering object on Rihanus' head is Chris Brown's semen.
But yes, GAGA is the ringleader at the moment. I would also say Beyoncé gives royal teas, but she's a lesser outside America.
I'm afraid I don't understand.
I'm no stan of Rihanna either. But I can't deny how hard she slays.
Slaying radio.
Slaying digital sales.
Slaying fashion.
Slaying Pop culture relevance.
Why CAN'T she be queen of Pop?
I have to echo Arte's post then. What is she missing?
From my viewpoint, Rihanna has all the components of Pop royalty.
If Roy said this instead of what he said in the beginning i wouldn't disagree. Gaga and Rih are modern day pop royalty but you gotta be on something if you think they are Queens of Pop because they are in the now
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Lord... you young queens have no sense of history
Sales receipts: first 3 albums only
Madonna -
Madonna : 10 million WW
Like A Virgin: 21 million WW
True Blue: 25 million WW
1st 3: 56 million
(All albums: 133.5 million)
Britney Spears-
... Baby: 28 million WW
...Oops: 24 million WW
Britney: 15 million WW
1st 3: 67 million
(All albums: 85.1 million)
Lady Gaga -
The Fame+The Fame Monster: 15 million WW (wiki had them listed as 1 album)
Born This Way: 6 million WW
1st 3(?): 21 million
Let us not get into tour receipts, or overall impact.
Its one thing to not like Madonna's output, but it's quite another to deny her accomplishments. Her slide into irrelevancy has been decades in the making. Madonna's lowest sales came 29 years after her debut. Britney's? 12, with a steep decline in sales starting 7 years in. Lady Gaga is the worst with her 2nd (or 3rd) not even selling half as much.
#poordat
But go ahead and keep touting that heaux as the 3rd coming. Lady Gaga and Britney Spears are good at whatever it is y'all like them for, but coming for the TRUE QUEEN of pop, because she's old, or whatever fallacious you can come up with only makes you look pressed, and the object you stan for even more undeserving.
Madonna may have skin like rice paper and arms like linguini but at least she's not:
Running around town dressed like Rainbow Brite.
Shopping around her naughty bits for her next breakup anthem.
(Whatever this ho is doing)
But you get my point. This list goes on and on. But while these heffa's are scounging around for change, or getting their labels to buy some extra fabric for those ever tightening seams, Madonna's old ass is out there doing the damn thing, and keepin you not so special heaux mad.
In conclusion, don't come for Madonna on terms of sales. MDNA may have flopped, but bet believe that when Madonna write a check, the BANK bounces. MMMkay?
Rih has yet to have a critically acclaimed album. Because she is on a yearly release schedule for the most part, she doesn't have the time to craft a timeless album. That and the fact that it seems she doesn't have as much creative input as Britney or Gaga do on their albums. She's never going to have a problem making an album go platinum or getting a #1 hit, but she hasn't made a timeless album, yet, and it doesn't seem like she cares to do so.
I do believe she could be a POP QUEEN if she wanted to be one, but I think she's just fine releasing albums, and having us bop to her music. That's fine with me as well.
I do believe she could be a POP QUEEN if she wanted to be one, but I think she's just fine releasing albums, and having us bop to her music. That's fine with me as well.
Which isn't present in Madonna or Britney. Again, What is she missing?
Since when has that mattered?
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TBH I wouldn't name either of them either.
I would probably say Gaga at the moment. Though her reign is by no means secure.
Always matters to people with taste. If this was a no taste Olympics I would give Rih stans the gold medal tho.....a consolation prize.
Not just that. I mean, if it was just about in-the-now then Adele and Katy Perry would be Queens.
I think ITZ better articulated what I was trying to say. If Rihanna stays on her current track, becoming a queen is inevitable. All the pieces are there. Multiple platinum albums. #1s falling out her ass. Pop culture ubiquity. Everything's there.
Rated R was more well reviewed than any Britney album. She was creatively invested in that record, too.
Dead @ reviews on metacritic
Rated R is more of an anomaly than anything else. It was the first time she took more than a year on an album and it showed. But look at pre- and post-Rated R. Before rated R, she was on a yearly release schedule, and didn't craft a masterpiece, after Rated R she was (and still is) on a yearly schedule, and hasn't crafted a masterpiece yet. Unapologetic could be another Rated R, but the writing is on the wall. She doesn't mind not having creative input in the album, and would rather just release bops that are manufactured for her. I'm fine with that as well, but until she changes that, she won't be a POP QUEEN. She'll only be the Queen of Radio, or the Queen of Digital Sales.
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Music reviews in general are trash. Music is so segmented and subdivided audience wise as to make it irrelevant.
(I am saying this is someone who defends video game/film reviews....THAT is how pointless and stupid music reviews generally are)
(I am saying this is someone who defends video game/film reviews....THAT is how pointless and stupid music reviews generally are)
I disagree.
Don't get me wrong, I've argued FOR Britney's creative input in the past. But I don't think Britney's out there in the studio hand-crafting her songs and albums and building something up from scratch. She has input, yes; but honestly I can't think of any area that Britney's had creative input where Rihanna hasn't had similar creative input in her own career.
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Gotta love the Rih/Brit stans duking it out.
Like watching a race of 3 legged horses. Arguing which is less untalented.
Ain't nothing inevitable in this industry, especially on Rihfund's current trajectory.
Rihanus has yet to define pop culture the way artists like Gaga, Britney or Beyoncé have done, DESPITE being in the industry for eight years now. Most of the the girls for royal contention already had their moment, or several, in that time span.
She has shown no evidence thus far of being capable of producing an era that turns into a cultural zeitgeist, and with her team's current fixation with vapid radio hits and a disregard for everything else, will she ever?
Even with singles there's an air of lesser with her. Despite being overplayed on radio, there ain't a single track in her discography that makes audiences fondly recall "remember THAT moment;" it's always "oh, yeah, I used to bop to that." Rihanus is akin to background music for the current context rather than being the context itself.
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While all of you argue about who is the queen of pop, there are absolutely no disputes about who the Queen of RAP is.
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While all of you argue about who is the queen of pop, there are absolutely no disputes about who the Queen of RAP is.
Her last few singles have flopped hard on the Rap/R&B charts. I mean.....I likish her music....but no.
While all of you argue about who is the queen of pop, there are absolutely no disputes about who the Queen of RAP is.
It's a deafult victory for her.
She's the queen of an empty castle.
Every Stan circle has the conversation almost once a month.
Madonna is Queen
And Britney is Princess.
Period.
Everyone else is pop royalty but ain't got nothin on those woman and their crowns. I don't give a damn about now this is about IMPACT. They both have done A LOT to shape pop music the way it is today. Y'all is some disrespectful and ungrateful bitches. SMH
Bey and Gaga are the only ones I consider real pop royalty especially Bey.
I c no lies and I'm CACKLING at how ACCURATE this is
Madonna is Queen
And Britney is Princess.
Period.
Everyone else is pop royalty but ain't got nothin on those woman and their crowns. I don't give a damn about now this is about IMPACT. They both have done A LOT to shape pop music the way it is today. Y'all is some disrespectful and ungrateful bitches. SMH
Bey and Gaga are the only ones I consider real pop royalty especially Bey.
I c no lies and I'm CACKLING at how ACCURATE this is
While all of you argue about who is the queen of pop, there are absolutely no disputes about who the Queen of RAP is.
Who cares who the queen of rap is when modern rap is a most male dominated field. I don't see any female rappers putting out any good shit recently except Azealia.
Not to mention that Nicki's career achievements so far aren't anything to be amazed by (her only hot 100 hits aren't even rap). She's painfully local and her career height was a feature.
Hmmm........I DO agree with this. I don't know how I feel on this subject anymore.
Even Xtina has had some pop culture "moments" in this regard. teehee
DEAD @ Rob giving us all a history lesson. #RespectYourElders
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.....and Ann Coulter/Sean Hannity/Beck have had a huge impact on Cable news. Doesn't make them less trashy and pathetic.
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Hey guys, what about Katy Perry??
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Fun music that will be forgotten the moment she has a flop. No long term impact at all imo.
In the same boat as Kelly Clarkson. Capsized. Drowning. etc.
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Those two couldn't be any more different.......
Kelly has talent that makes popgafs favs cry themselves to sleep at night in shame.
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