Mr. Enigma
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Here's a screenshot of how Skyward Sword looks like:
That's a Dolphin screenshot, asshole.
Here's a screenshot of how Skyward Sword looks like:
Do you have a decent enough camera to take comparison shots?I don't have a digital camera good enough to make a difference at home, but I can see a major difference in the scaling between my Wii and Wii U when changing inputs.
The Wii U's wii mode output actually puts a slight black border around all sides of the image. The nature of the scaling artifacts is different from the output of my Wii (using component, not composite). Colors on the Wii U side are more vibrant, less washed out by the upscale. I am not sure if one or the other is "cleaner" in terms of upscaling artifacts. But the Wii U side looks less stretched and distorted.
Verdict: I would assume the Wii U is upscaling the image before sending it to the TV. The output looks nothing like the TV's own scaler on the vanilla Wii's input.
To avoid confusion, I'll again present how upscaling works compared to upresing.
At the very least, true digital output will give a much better PQ than the Wii ever did.
... upscaled by the Wii U, or upscaled by your TV?
Makes me glad I held off on a bunch of Wii games, the image is alright on my TV but a lot of games do look kind of washed out.I don't have a digital camera good enough to make a difference at home, but I can see a major difference in the scaling between my Wii and Wii U when changing inputs.
The Wii U's wii mode output actually puts a slight black border around all sides of the image. The nature of the scaling artifacts is different from the output of my Wii (using component, not composite). Colors on the Wii U side are more vibrant, less washed out by the upscale. I am not sure if one or the other is "cleaner" in terms of upscaling artifacts. But the Wii U side looks less stretched and distorted.
Verdict: I would assume the Wii U is upscaling the image before sending it to the TV. The output looks nothing like the TV's own scaler on the vanilla Wii's input.
Not all upscaling is equal, some TVs or systems have better hardware/software for it than the other does. You could see this with, say, different PDF readers on a tablet or whatever, some of them do good smoothing, while some look like pixalated messes.Doesn't this just mean that there are no black bars around the image?
Here's a screenshot of how Skyward Sword looks like:
This.
Except the FPS counter in the top left clearly means its running in dolphin :/
Here's a screenshot of how Skyward Sword looks like:
could the better look be due to the HDMI input vs. component input?
trolling lolHere's a screenshot of how Skyward Sword looks like:
"upscaled"
If it is it'd probably be because the Wii U's outputting an HDMI signal itself. HDMI converters far as I could tell looked exactly the same as a Wii with component, surely because it was just interpreting that signal.It could be that. I dunno.
Straight upscaling is not inherently going to make anything look better. It's just doubling dimensions. A lot of people don't understand this.Why is this in quotes?
This is exactly what the term means. Is there another kind of upscaling?
That's a Dolphin screenshot, asshole.
That's a Dolphin screenshot, asshole.
Err, what the fuck else would your 1080p display be showing other than a 1080p image?
In a similar vein, here's what Twilight Princess looks like
Seriously? No one has a WiiU and a random Wii game to post a screenshot?
Err, what the fuck else would your 1080p display be showing other than a 1080p image?
To do it justice you'll want to have something capturing the feed to take a screenshot from. A phone pic won't do justice, though it probably will be of SOME use if you do it with a Wii screen too.Seriously? No one has a WiiU and a random Wii game to post a screenshot?
I think you mean wether the Wii U is internally rendering the game at 1080p.Yeah, the question here is does the wiiu handle the upscaling or not. That's all we need to know. Upres-ing won't happen.
Straight upscaling is not inherently going to make anything look better. It's just doubling dimensions. A lot of people don't understand this.
Exactly. I took some photos. Shits blurry as hell.
The screens above show the resolution as 720p. The Wii U is definitely sending a 720p signal here.Can anyone else confirm this? It might just be OP's TV doing the upscaling considering it's been explicitly stated the WiiU won't upscale Wii games.
The TV is doing the upscaling, not the system of course
I think you mean wether the Wii U is internally rendering the game at 1080p.
BUT it does not upres the 480p games
The Wii-U still transmits in whatever resolution you set your TV to output in...BUT it does not upres the 480p games
It's not that hard people
Exactly. I took some photos. Shits blurry as hell.
Looks a lot like mario does when my tv upscales it.
Doesn't look that bad, IMO
Yes.I've never understood the concept of upscaling. It's a fancy way of saying stretched right?