Dreamwriter
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Do we know if Nintendo is ever going to offer full retail Wii games on the eshop? Some games are near impossible to find like xenoblade or metroid prime trilogy.
Xenoblade is still for sale
Do we know if Nintendo is ever going to offer full retail Wii games on the eshop? Some games are near impossible to find like xenoblade or metroid prime trilogy.
Holy crap, I didn't even think about GC VC support, dat Blue Storm and FZGX on the gamepad, shits gonna be insane!.I wonder when they're gonna announce a first batch of VC games. How long did it take 3DS and Wii to get some?
I kinda want to play REmake and Luigi's Mansion on the pad
How is it punishing anyone? How is anyone inconvenienced by this, except those whose systems are stolen? That's what I'm aruguing, that everyone is making a HUGE deal over something that makes no difference to how most people will ever use their system.
And BTW, your different color argument is missing the fact that Nintendo released a 3DS-to-3DS transfer utility last November (similar to the Wii-to-Wii U utility), so they'll probably do the same thing with Wii U eventually, once there's a point to it.
Do I need the classic controller to play this game? I really dont need another controller clogging up space. Wish I Could use my wiipad get on it Nintendo.
Do I need the classic controller to play this game? I really dont need another controller clogging up space. Wish I Could use my wiipad get on it Nintendo.
Holy crap, I didn't even think about GC VC support, dat Blue Storm and FZGX on the gamepad, shits gonna be insane!.
Anyone using Wii LAN Adapter for a wired connection for Wii U online?
I'm not even sure Xenoblade IS that scarce yet, remember it's a GameStop exclusive. Use their inventory checker and see if any near you have it in stock.Do we know if Nintendo is ever going to offer full retail Wii games on the eshop? Some games are near impossible to find like xenoblade or metroid prime trilogy.
How is it punishing anyone? How is anyone inconvenienced by this, except those whose systems are stolen? That's what I'm aruguing, that everyone is making a HUGE deal over something that makes no difference to how most people will ever use their system.
And BTW, your different color argument is missing the fact that Nintendo released a 3DS-to-3DS transfer utility last November (similar to the Wii-to-Wii U utility), so they'll probably do the same thing with Wii U eventually, once there's a point to it.
No, it's nothing like that, because my PC isn't made by Valve. This whole account deal is being SERIOUSLY overblown, it's not a big deal at all. It really only makes a couple things less convenient and keeps people from installing their games on their friends' consoles. The only way you could lose your downloads would be if you somehow lost your console. And even then, depending on how it was done, there's still a chance you could convince Nintendo to activate your account on a new console (they did so with the Wii now and then).
Yes, the 3DS does allow it, as long as you have both systems.
it is a huge deal. I don't understand why you're downplaying it or arguing so vehemently against it being presented as a huge deal.
in the uk, we get one year store warranties by default, so what if my system develops a fault while it is still in warranty with the store? why should I be forced to jump through more hoops to have it repaired by nintendo when I could go back to the store and get a straight swap for a new console like I have done in the past with my xbox 360 and playstation 3.
your argument of piracy simply doesn't hold water, it's not rampant on other consoles that offer account migration, I don't see why nintendo would be so worried about. the 3ds to 3ds transfer system is in itself a bizarre set up, I feel it shows a fundamental issue with nintendo that they don't understand why account migration is so important.
it's not about piracy, it's about their network not being able to support account migration or about them not understanding why it's so important.
it is a huge deal. I don't understand why you're downplaying it or arguing so vehemently against it being presented as a huge deal.
in the uk, we get one year store warranties by default, so what if my system develops a fault while it is still in warranty with the store? why should I be forced to jump through more hoops to have it repaired by nintendo when I could go back to the store and get a straight swap for a new console like I have done in the past with my xbox 360 and playstation 3.
your argument of piracy simply doesn't hold water, it's not rampant on other consoles that offer account migration, I don't see why nintendo would be so worried about. the 3ds to 3ds transfer system is in itself a bizarre set up, I feel it shows a fundamental issue with nintendo that they don't understand why account migration is so important.
it's not about piracy, it's about their network not being able to support account migration or about them not understanding why it's so important.
So that one little bit of inconvenience makes it a HUGE deal?? Obviously I'm mostly talking to people in the US who are the ones being very vehement about it and saying "I'm never buying any games digitally, even ones I can't get any other way", but I still don't see that as a huge deal even in Europe. Most electronic devices don't die within a year (that's why stores in the US push extended 1 year warranties so hard, because it's almost free money for them, such a low percentage of the people who buy them actually need them).
People are talking as if this is the worst DRM ever, as if this is as bad as games forcing you to be online to play or giving themselves root access to your Windows Kernal, but there's almost no downsides to the way Nintendo is doing this.
You can use the Wiimote + Nunchuck
no downsides? seriously?
there are downsides,a lot of them,this is anticonsumer,and still dont get how anyone can defend these type of behaviour
no downsides? seriously?
there are downsides,a lot of them,this is anticonsumer,and still dont get how anyone can defend these type of behaviour
no downsides? seriously?
there are downsides,a lot of them,this is anticonsumer,and still dont get how anyone can defend these type of behaviour
None, it would be called Miiregions if that would have been the case.Have nintendo said if miiverse is going to be region specific or is it just language specific?
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OK, so I decided to list every single downside:
- If your system breaks within your retail store's return period, you still can't return the system to the store, you must send the broken system to Nintendo, or lose all of your downloads.
- If your system is stolen or burns up in a fire, you lose all your downloaded games, unless you convince a Nintendo rep to move the games to your new console in their system (this was hit or miss on the Wii).
- You can't download your purchased games on another person's Wii U.
- Until Nintendo releases a system-to-system transfer tool, you can't move your games to another system (currently needed if you want to switch from a black Wii U to a white one or vice/versa)
That's the entire list, there are no other bad things about it. I just don't see those 4 things as being a HUGE deal that would make people not ever want to download any games, or tell other people that it's a bad idea. How do those 4 things make it "anticonsumer"?
I mean, even if you break your console yourself or it's broken outside of warranty, you still want to send your console to Nintendo, because they are far cheaper to replace the console than buying a new one retail. Not to mention there's a chance they could save your game-saves, where you would definitely lose them all replacing your console at the store. And the size of most Wii U games and the speed of Nintendo's download servers means it's unlikely anyone will ever want to download their game onto a friend's console just to play a fun game for the night. And Nintendo *is* working on the system-to-system transfer tool, like they have on the 3DS and like the Wii to Wii U one works.
So that one little bit of inconvenience makes it a HUGE deal?? Obviously I'm mostly talking to people in the US who are the ones being very vehement about it and saying "I'm never buying any games digitally, even ones I can't get any other way", but I still don't see that as a huge deal even in Europe. Most electronic devices don't die within a year (that's why stores in the US push extended 1 year warranties so hard, because it's almost free money for them, such a low percentage of the people who buy them actually need them).
People are talking as if this is the worst DRM ever, as if this is as bad as games forcing you to be online to play or giving themselves root access to your Windows Kernal, but there's almost no downsides to the way Nintendo is doing this.
You seriously aren't seeing the problems here, of how things get tied down so you can't, say, buy stuff on a shared system then move to your own later on? Or just how completely fucking absurd it is to be given accounts only to be restricted to a SINGLE console for their use, no going over to friends and logging in just to track online progress even if you can't play your games on that system? The more money you invest in this (especially important with full priced retail games being added) the harder it is to rationalize a draconian, backwards system (assuming they don't just patch in the ability to transfer ownership to a new console, hopefully addressed from THEIR servers rather than from console to console). That's the thing here really, the big problems are unlikely to happen to most people, BUT we want good contingency plans in case those happen and Nintendo's horribly lacking there, nevermind how this stuff affects normal usage that doesn't seek to exploit the system. Hell, it's just good period to not have to worry if something happens.There's just one for me: If my Wii U gets stolen, and that's a big if. If my system ever brokes I'll send it to NoA for repairs anyway, so losing my account shouldn't be a problem in that case either. the system-to-system transfer is enough. Now, with handhelds it's different because those are more propense to get lost/stolen but again, it's no dealbreaker for me either.
OK, so I decided to list every single downside:
[*]If your system breaks within your retail store's return period, you still can't return the system to the store, you must send the broken system to Nintendo, or lose all of your downloads.- If your system is stolen or burns up in a fire, you lose all your downloaded games, unless you convince a Nintendo rep to move the games to your new console in their system (this was hit or miss on the Wii).
- You can't download your purchased games on another person's Wii U.
- Until Nintendo releases a system-to-system transfer tool, you can't move your games to another system (currently needed if you want to switch from a black Wii U to a white one or vice/versa)
That's the entire list, there are no other bad things about it. I just don't see those 4 things as being a HUGE deal that would make people not ever want to download any games, or tell other people that it's a bad idea. How do those 4 things make it "anticonsumer"?
I mean, even if you break your console yourself or it's broken outside of warranty, you still want to send your console to Nintendo, because they are far cheaper to replace the console than buying a new one retail. Not to mention there's a chance they could save your game-saves, where you would definitely lose them all replacing your console at the store. And the size of most Wii U games and the speed of Nintendo's download servers means it's unlikely anyone will ever want to download their game onto a friend's console just to play a fun game for the night. And Nintendo *is* working on the system-to-system transfer tool, like they have on the 3DS and like the Wii to Wii U one works.
how is the bolded not a huge deal? do you bot believe in consumer rights and protection from bad practises or something?
so thats the anticonsumer part
How is it punishing anyone? How is anyone inconvenienced by this, except those whose systems are stolen? That's what I'm aruguing, that everyone is making a HUGE deal over something that makes no difference to how most people will ever use their system.
And BTW, your different color argument is missing the fact that Nintendo released a 3DS-to-3DS transfer utility last November (similar to the Wii-to-Wii U utility), so they'll probably do the same thing with Wii U eventually, once there's a point to it.
cool my gamepad won't turn on that's cool.
strange is that plugged in?
My wired is way slower than WiFi for some reason. Like almost 10 times slower. I have no idea why.
OK, so I decided to list every single downside:
- If your system breaks within your retail store's return period, you still can't return the system to the store, you must send the broken system to Nintendo, or lose all of your downloads.
- If your system is stolen or burns up in a fire, you lose all your downloaded games, unless you convince a Nintendo rep to move the games to your new console in their system (this was hit or miss on the Wii).
- You can't download your purchased games on another person's Wii U.
- Until Nintendo releases a system-to-system transfer tool, you can't move your games to another system (currently needed if you want to switch from a black Wii U to a white one or vice/versa)
That's the entire list, there are no other bad things about it. I just don't see those 4 things as being a HUGE deal that would make people not ever want to download any games, or tell other people that it's a bad idea. How do those 4 things make it "anticonsumer"?
I mean, even if you break your console yourself or it's broken outside of warranty, you still want to send your console to Nintendo, because they are far cheaper to replace the console than buying a new one retail. Not to mention there's a chance they could save your game-saves, where you would definitely lose them all replacing your console at the store. And the size of most Wii U games and the speed of Nintendo's download servers means it's unlikely anyone will ever want to download their game onto a friend's console just to play a fun game for the night. And Nintendo *is* working on the system-to-system transfer tool, like they have on the 3DS and like the Wii to Wii U one works.
lol they told me to change my Miiverse profile because I had my Xbox Live, 3DS and PSN ID's on it.
I don't think they will but it'd be nice if sainsburys fucked this up and sent me the console early!
lol they told me to change my Miiverse profile because I had my Xbox Live, 3DS and PSN ID's on it.
I don't think they will but it'd be nice if sainsburys fucked this up and sent me the console early!
I don't think they will but it'd be nice if sainsburys fucked this up and sent me the console early!
You know what you guys need? A midnight launch.And so the pre-launch blue balls begin. They might post on Monday and you get it on Tuesday. Or they might post via snail on Monday and you get it Saturday. Or they might prepare all of them for despatch and they just sit in the post room until Thursday before being loaded on a van.
Best thing to do is press F5 every 10 minutes, just incase..
You know what you guys need? A midnight launch.
I'm pretty happy that I can download the update whilst I sleep. Otherwise that would be one huge chunk of my day off dedicated to watching a progress bar.
Fair enough. My time off work is very valuable.Nah, while its downloading I'll just read this thread or play something else. Not like my backlog is getting any shorter (one reason I don't care if there is a post launch drought)
And so the pre-launch blue balls begin. They might post on Monday and you get it on Tuesday. Or they might post via snail on Monday and you get it Saturday. Or they might prepare all of them for despatch and they just sit in the post room until Thursday before being loaded on a van.
Best thing to do is press F5 every 10 minutes, just incase..
I guess what he means is that even though it's banned in his country, it's still available for that region via digital distribution.