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Halo 4 |OT| Spartans Never Die

FyreWulff

Member
Played some Reach last night and I think 85% DMR bloom is a good compromise for the DMR. You can still spam it but you also have to pace your shots correctly. I think this adds a layer of skill to the game, and I think it would help cut down on peoples complaints about the DMR being overpowered, particularly at range. 85% bloom plus de-scope was a good idea. Bungie almost had it right, i think

Except for the fact that it functionally becomes zero bloom once you crouch. Maybe if it stayed at 85% in both states.

Crouching with a 85% NR is like firing with an aimbot. Should have been done via an RoF change instead.
 
i swear now you are just making shit up. haven't once noticed "tons of lag compensation", being shot when already in cover, or worse netcode than Reach. Starting to think a lot of this is all in your head.

I just died out on the open even though 2 seconds before then I was behind a rock, the game or host had like a 2 second lead on me or something.

It happens and it happens often when you live outside the US
 

JB1981

Member
Except for the fact that it functionally becomes zero bloom once you crouch. Maybe if it stayed at 85% in both states.

Crouching with a 85% NR is like firing with an aimbot. Should have been done via an RoF change instead.

it's aimbot all the time now though so i don't understand the complaint.
 

raindoc

Member
I just died out on the open even though 2 seconds before then I was behind a rock, the game or host had like a 2 second lead on me or something.

It happens and it happens often when you live outside the US

confirmed.

EDIT: online now and ready for some coop campaign.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
To people in this thread still not getting codes, it was posted on Halo Waypoint that all specialization codes have gone out as of now.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
But would you say it's the best halo ever? That's the sticking point here for them.

Halo 2 is my favorite but Halo 4 is up there for me. Yeah it has a whole host of issues but the gun play is easily the best in the series and it doesn't have as much glaring issues as Reach.

What I think needs to be done is to split MM up into 2 sections since there are obviously 2 very distinct player groups for Halo (none of which I would classify my self as). Have one section be exactly the same as it is now and then have a "classic" playlist with no loadouts, weapons on maps, red X's on deaths, no kill cams and ect.

I understand 343 wanting to make this Halo theirs but I see no issue in also including a classic set of playlists devoted to those who don't want these changes all over the place.


All that being said MP wise here is how I would rank it

Halo 2 > Halo 4 > Halo 3 > Halo CE > Halo: Reach
 

darthbob

Member
Seeing al the whinning obout the game coming from HALO "veterans" I guess so.

I actually Don't see any of those big issues they conplain about.

To be honest, neither do I, for the most part. I like the pacing of MP, and Spartan Ops is fun.

Campaign felt a bit short though, and the ending was sorta weak. Also, compressed audio in cutscenes is my biggest gripe.
 
I just been thrown into a game in progress, constant black screen with scoreboard, every few seconds it would select new host and the team scores would go up, someone is playing with their phone ringtones over the headset and I can't mute him because the game gives you no menu control while selecting hosts...

ugh.
Happened to me too. Are people lag switching?
 

strikeselect

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I really really hope 343 evolves Forge in a big way moving forward.

Just saw videos of Far Cry 3's map editor and it absolutely blows Forge away. Makes Forge look like a baby's first map editor.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
I really really hope 343 evolves Forge in a big way moving forward.

Just saw videos of Far Cry 3's map editor and it absolutely blows Forge away. Makes Forge look like a baby's first map editor.

Yeah this I think everyone can agree on NEEDS to happen.
 

op_ivy

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I really really hope 343 evolves Forge in a big way moving forward.

Just saw videos of Far Cry 3's map editor and it absolutely blows Forge away. Makes Forge look like a baby's first map editor.

unless 343 really changes the tools they use to build the game and maps, i wouldnt count on it.

of course, with the next in the series obviously going next-gen, hopefully 343 will do a drastic engine overhaul and make that a priority.
 

Apath

Member
Would it be difficult for 343 to make a Mapping tool for the PC that can then upload maps to your 360? Forge isn't awful for a console map editor, but you're never going to beat what a real computer can do.
 

Hey You

Member
Would it be difficult for 343 to make a Mapping tool for the PC that can then upload maps to your 360? Forge isn't awful for a console map editor, but you're never going to beat what a real computer can do.

Considering they needed someone else to do Forge, I'd say maybe just a little bit.
 

DesertFox

Member
So I got one of those specialization codes in my email and accidentally redeemed it (I already have the LE) because there is absolutely no wording in the email or redemption to tell me exactly WHAT I was redeeming.

Shame - I would have given the code to a needy member of GAF instead of double dipping my own specialization access.
 
Lag does some really weird things in this game.
For some reason my group just refer to all the weirdness as tomfoolery - and there is a lot of it goin' on.

Last night we ran into so many overly long matchmaking searches, overly long host migrations (with our party of 3 getting split into separate games or back to the lobby), games with half a dozen host migrations (why?), spawning without armor abilities, or more often spawning without the ability to sprint, sounds the don't seem to register (getting killed by a snipe without hearing that ping sound, or getting killed by the spartan laser without hearing the zorch, etc.), not being able to save a film locally (all options had locks on them), medals popping up in-match but not in the post-game medals, and of course all the general sliding and teleporting that can happen in a match. For some reason last night was particularly bad.

Besides that, more of our Infinity Slayer matches are against groups of stealth players with melee weapons behind corners, or people who purely run at you to throw speedball-glitched-stickies, or just the straight beat down, or whatever will get them their next visor color. Its annoying, and the only reason I have a Promethean Vision loadout is to counter these slow-as-a-crawl camo infested matches, but am worried that Wetwork's stealth perk is just going to eliminate PV's viability as a counter.

So, not happy with the current state of the game right now. If its not buggy or glitchy, then it seems to be cheap.
 
I don't normally play 4 v 4 slayer but I gave it a go tonight, all I will say is ordinance drops ruin it completely, they work ok for big team but with smaller teams it was like 2 in every 3 I walk into was using a power weapon of some kind or the dmr/light pistol, bleh.

Way too many insta kill weapons in this halo, the DMR is now like a call of duty lazer gun because there is no penalty to spraying it while scoped and stuff like the gauss cannon should have ZERO aim assist or should only strip your shields if you have 100% health, what the hell were 343 thinking adding that to multiplayer in such a state. In fact that map is really tipped to the blue team in favour as they can get to the tank just as fast as the red team yet start with a gauss hog? lol...

Also 2 stickies can nearly kill a tank yet only roll over a warthog, how is that possible?

I really want to make this my multiplayer go to game until next gen but at this rate it might end up on the shelf, things just do not compute.
 

GamerSoul

Member
For some reason my group just refer to all the weirdness as tomfoolery - and there is a lot of it goin' on.

Last night we ran into so many overly long matchmaking searches, overly long host migrations (with our party of 3 getting split into separate games or back to the lobby), games with half a dozen host migrations (why?), spawning without armor abilities, or more often spawning without the ability to sprint, sounds the don't seem to register (getting killed by a snipe without hearing that ping sound, or getting killed by the spartan laser without hearing the zorch, etc.), not being able to save a film locally (all options had locks on them), medals popping up in-match but not in the post-game medals, and of course all the general sliding and teleporting that can happen in a match. For some reason last night was particularly bad.

Besides that, more of our Infinity Slayer matches are against groups of stealth players with melee weapons behind corners, or people who purely run at you to throw speedball-glitched-stickies, or just the straight beat down, or whatever will get them their next visor color. Its annoying, and the only reason I have a Promethean Vision loadout is to counter these slow-as-a-crawl camo infested matches, but am worried that Wetwork's stealth perk is just going to eliminate PV's viability as a counter.

So, not happy with the current state of the game right now. If its not buggy or glitchy, then it seems to be cheap.

I call it flash stepping (from Bleach lol idk why) when there's a lot of lag and players are teleporting everywhere. Overall, I think i'm experience a little more lag than Reach. But there are a lot more black screens. I remember once hearing the match continuing on without me through another players headset. I do run into people with camo just hiding in corners but the part that gets me is how good it is. I can never pinpoint where they are. Other than that I'm enjoying the game, I just have to get better at finishing off opponents.
 

rakka

Member
i swear now you are just making shit up. haven't once noticed "tons of lag compensation", being shot when already in cover, or worse netcode than Reach. Starting to think a lot of this is all in your head.

why would I make shit up? I fucking love halo, always have. i'm trying to enjoy 4 regardless of how many issues I have with it. I'm almost at SR70, no 2XP matches. I live in australia, and I've come across laggy games and black screens (while some players are still scoring) much more often than in reach. and I suppose the three or four other people, just on the previous page of this thread, who pretty much confirmed they have issues with lag in the game are making shit up too? that said it seems to affect people living outside the US more. some of its probably due to a more accurate "trueskill" system but there should at least be a connection priority setting, to prioritize skill matching so much so that some games are unplayable is ridiculous. you and others might have had better luck but it's a fact that there's more than just a small percentage of us with lag issues in 4.

edit: and the post just above me too, black screen while some players are still playing and scoring. it happens at least a few times a day for me, far more than in reach. as I said, you might have had better luck. but it's a very real issue for many of us.
 

matt360

Member
Played a match this morning that really pissed me off. 4v4 Slayer on Complex, 2 of their team members aren't even trying (as in they are not even moving at all). My team of 4 is obviously doing extremely well against their 2, and I've racked up about 20 kills and 0 deaths with only a couple minutes to go. I'm thinking holy crap, I'm gonna get the challenge xp for 15 kills and 0 deaths. All of a sudden the screen goes black, some new players join, and as soon as I regain control of my character I'm dead. I guess I was just sitting there with a black screen while everyone else has free reign. Super lame, and it seems to be happening a lot.

Still having tons of fun overall, but I'm also wondering where my specialization unlock code is.
 
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Deleted member 13876

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Halo 4 netcode has been the worst for me so far. People flying all over the place, myself included, sprint not working and matches starting without enemy players only to immediately go to the stat screen. Despite this I really like the game and have been playing it a ton, but please don't say people are making stuff up.
 

njean777

Member
Anybody want to add me and and play some with me? I usually play during the day and on evenings when I can. I am not on now and won't be till tomorrow afternoon but I need some peeps to roll deep with.

My tag is the same as my gaf name-njean777
 

Trey

Member
Anybody want to add me and and play some with me? I usually play during the day and on evenings when I can. I am not on now and won't be till tomorrow afternoon but I need some peeps to roll deep with.

My tag is the same as my gaf name-njean777

Add MGTrey. I most likely will play tomorrow.
 

lucius

Member
So I activated that 14 day free Gold trial that came with the game so I could complete Operation Complete Achievement for that $50 Best Buy credit with Amex. I did it right before I found out about the free Live weekend, so once my 14 day trial expires will I still be able to play the Spartans Ops missions by myself that have been released so far?

Or do I lose all access to all Spartan Ops missions once my Live trial expires?
 

blamite

Member
So I activated that 14 day free Gold trial that came with the game so I could complete Operation Complete Achievement for that $50 Best Buy credit with Amex. I did it right before I found out about the free Live weekend, so once my 14 day trial expires will I still be able to play the Spartans Ops missions by myself that have been released so far?

Or do I lose all access to all Spartan Ops missions once my Live trial expires?

I think you can only access Spartan Ops when you have an active Gold subscription, regardless of whether or not you had gold when they were released. So yeah, once your trial runs out you'll be locked out again. :/
 

strikeselect

You like me, you really really like me!
I've run into another issue with this game that really ticks me off. The matchmaking groups players that are playing solo vs full organized parties.

This is pretty much a death sentence in any gametype. Organized parties that communicate ALWAYS have the advantage over players who go into matchmaking solo. Why does 343's matchmaking group them against each other?

CoD has mercenary playlists available for this specific reason and Halo 2 used to be pretty good at matching up parties vs parties from what I remember. Bleh.
 

lucius

Member
I think you can only access Spartan Ops when you have an active Gold subscription, regardless of whether or not you had gold when they were released. So yeah, once your trial runs out you'll be locked out again. :/

Darn I guess I could try to finish all released so far, eventually I likely end up getting a 3 month sub just for Spartan Ops.
 
Has there been any word when we can access our screenshots via a website yet?

Everyone raves about how good the graphics in Halo 4 are but something about them feels like it wouldn't hold up on closer inspection like Reach's do.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Has there been any word when we can access our screenshots via a website yet?

Everyone raves about how good the graphics in Halo 4 are but something about them feels like it wouldn't hold up on closer inspection like Reach's do.
Some time in December.

And MP maps from my screenshots definitely look better than anything in Reach.

I felt Reach actually fell apart upon close inspection in MP anyways.
 
The lag in this game is embarrassing. For god's sakes, it's only 8 people total. It's not Blops2 embarrassing, but blops 2 has a whole other team's worth of players in a normal match.

I understand lag with big teams. It should not be, but it's understandable. 4 v 4? C'mon son.
 
my armor isn't being updated on halo waypoint and still keeps showing me as the red recruit. all my friends armors are being represented. and for some reason it is bothering the shit out of me.

and so far this is the least annoying halo for me since 2. i'm enjoying it way more than reach and even a little better than 3. halo 3 had more maps that i liked, but i'm happy with most of the ones in 4, at least in infinity slayer, that's mostly all i play. not saying the complaints in here are all invalid too, but i swear every halo OT i've lurked since halo 3 has always had tons of complainers. like the threads are built for venting.
 

aries_71

Junior Member
What kind of person is needed to lay still and crouched in a corner, during never ending long minutes, just to engage active camo, and assassinate somebody that passes nearby? Just tell me. Please, I want to understand. Is that even entertaining?
 
What kind of person is needed to lay still and crouched in a corner, during never ending long minutes, just to engage active camo, and assassinate somebody that passes nearby? Just tell me. Please, I want to understand. Is that even entertaining?
People who love to get a rise out of us man.
 
What kind of person is needed to lay still and crouched in a corner, during never ending long minutes, just to engage active camo, and assassinate somebody that passes nearby? Just tell me. Please, I want to understand. Is that even entertaining?

i did that to get the 3 assassinations in a match challenge. :3


but i only did it for that. otherwise the active camo serves no purpose for me.
 
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