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Halo 4 |OT| Spartans Never Die
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I'll toss you mine in a PM
When you reached level 60, did the levels rank up as fast as they did for levels 50-59? Like, the first 50-levels (50-54) seemed to go by real quick for me.
no XP, after the match finishes you go straight to the lobby. this sucks.
IOnEI Falcon
Member
Have you tried playing one more Solo and completing it?
squidhands
Member
This happened to me on Saturday, but it was from playing 12 double XP matches. There was no indication from the game that I hit the xp limit, which is something Reach at least told you.
This game is determined to find a way to suck the fun out of your experience at every turn. Can't launch Waypoint from the main menu, bizarre host migrations that kick me into joining another match that's almost complete, the whole Specialization code thing that only applies to 'mericuh, etc. I would gladly trade the visual upgrade we got for the more polished details that previous Halos excelled at, but I feel as a consumer that I should have to trade anything at this point.
Yeah just saw that post a little back when to try it out and thankfully it worked.
IOnEI Falcon
Member
Nice! Spread the word. It works!
Mizzou Gaming
Member
I was a very early critic of Spartan Ops but it finally clicked over these last couple episodes. I just started looking at the mode like a story enhanced FireFight mode. I've already started going back and playing thru earlier chapters and while some missions are not fun I can definately see myself playing a few of these several times over. I really wished they'd patch-in scoring though.
what almost pisses me off most: the day before i found out about how fucked i am i bought the freakin' map-pass.
The downside of that is they're supremely difficult solo. At least of Legendary--Heroic might be more manageable if you take it slow.
I had dreamed we would get 3 smaller 4v4 maps in the pack and atleast one 4v4 symmetrical map.
Crazyorloco
Member
I bought it long ago as well. Let's hope 343I patch something in this game soon. patch anything. I know they did some fixes (complex, improved J.i.p) but give us patch notes. Let us know you're working 343i.
It has happened to me once in 4, a few days ago. We were about to score a flag and the game went to the pause menu and they other team scored instead. Then everyone on that team dropped and my team automatically won.
I think a big portion of what is wrong with SpOps is that not only are they rehashing levels, but 343i seems incapable of not attempting to pad a level out with bullshit. On the first mission of this episode, you're done with the main objective about five minutes in. Then, the game keeps spawning enemies; wave after wave. They tack on an additional ten minutes of doing the exact same thing after you should rightfully just be done with it.
Seriously. Spawning massive amounts of enemies at the end every, single, time, is not entertaining. If you're going to reuse levels, at least minimize the amount of time we're spending on them. Or at least give a better objective than, "hey shoot all the dudes now. Then do it again. Then one more time."
Other than this, the CG continues to be awesome. I wish actually playing SpOps was half as fun.
Seriously. Spawning massive amounts of enemies at the end every, single, time, is not entertaining. If you're going to reuse levels, at least minimize the amount of time we're spending on them. Or at least give a better objective than, "hey shoot all the dudes now. Then do it again. Then one more time."
Other than this, the CG continues to be awesome. I wish actually playing SpOps was half as fun.
I really enjoy Spartan Ops and have had ton of fun with it but I agree with you that they throw way to many enemies after the objective has been done.
Squall ASF
Member
Actually, in that sense, it is a good jumping on point. None of this stuff was set up in the other games. The only way to have any deeper prior knowledge to the forerunners was to read a few of the books, this game and trilogy is meant to bring some of that to the greater audience. I haven't read the latest books so I just went off of what the game provides. Because I hadn't read the books, the antagonist was brand new to me and the extra fleshing out you want is provided via the terminals. Unfortunately, you can't watch them in-game and that's probably why you missed them. You have to find a terminal in each level (except the first) and that unlocks it in Waypoint. I recommend getting all the terminals and then watching them in order. They are complete back story dedicated to providing background on the antagonist and the librarian and fleshes out how the conflict first happened, why certain choices were made, etc. There is also a terminal in the very first level almost immediately after you first take control that gives an audio presentation of what happened in the first three games leading up to this one as a refresher.
You aren't supposed to know too much yet on the Forerunners, just what that large cut scene revealed and what the terminals flesh out. We'll learn more in the next two games, I expect. The Composer however, was completely explained in the game...
It's a forerunner weapon used to digitize life forms. It was created to combat the flood and the idea was that the flood cannot infect digital life forms, thus they would have no food and die out. It also made you immortal. The floods numbers were so great that the Didact eventually had to use it on humans to bolster the size of his army, turning them into his Promethean servants but there was a side effect, a mutation that turned them into the creatures we fight in the game.
If you watch the terminals, you'll see the forerunners debate between that strategy and the Halo one.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
This feel I know it. Hasn't updated shit for me except one time. Now I'm stuck in armor I haven't wore since the first week of the game. :/
Oh and to add it does update my emblem every time, but not my Spartan appearance.
therealminime
Member
That was probably the most lackluster batch of Spartan Ops missions to date. They all took like 8 minutes or less to complete, they all took place on the maps that we've played missions on at least 3 times before, and 4 of the 5 missions involved sitting in one place and defending something. At least I got some achievements out of it.
IOnEI Falcon
Member
I am pretty sure you can. I swear I have done it several times.
So now we will have to start paying for Spartan Ops missions now? Any word on that yet?
One mission solo?
I assume Crimson team
? Based on the last mission and achievement name...
One mission solo?
I assume Crimson team
is dead
NullPointer
Member
I think the problem is that 343 seems incapable of hiding the gaminess behind smoke and mirrors. Ultimately these games are just a matter of reaching trigger volumes and hitting switches triggering enemies, but Halo 4 actually feels mechanical. We're told to hit buttons, because we have to hit buttons, and these buttons make waves of enemies appear and we have to kill them all. Why? Because thats how these games work.
Even the campaign was like this. Intermittent story elements book-ending a series of three buttons to press, each with three power sources to disable, before plugging cortana into another console. It just feels mechanical - there is no attempt to make the game's objectives seamlessly blend into a larger story. Even the transitions are all handled through portals that just take us from one Spartan Ops like battle scenario to the next with next to nothing to tie the locations together organically.
Compare this to the mission structure and objectives in something like Reach. On paper the objectives can seem similar, but the way those objectives work with the story and keep pushing things forward is handled with far more skill. You have a huge firefight just trying to reach the comm towers to get a warning out - or assaulting a base to grab a Sabre in order to jack a Covenant vessel and slam it into a mothership. The story and the gaminess in Reach played together so that you weren't stuck to digest each of them individually on their own.
thisisnotdanny
Banned
Thank fucking god warthogs spawn so fast, I get so frustrated how everyone starts with 2 stickies but the fact that there's constantly something to drive makes up for it I suppose. Key to driving around enemies: SERPENTINE! SERPENTINE!
Also: Can't wait to specialize in operator, driving has always been my thing since the very first time I stepped onto Sidewinder in my first LAN party.
Edit: Bwhahaha 433 wheelmans so far!
Also: Can't wait to specialize in operator, driving has always been my thing since the very first time I stepped onto Sidewinder in my first LAN party.
Edit: Bwhahaha 433 wheelmans so far!
It's almost going to be like a CGI movie when it's done.
I like SP OPS as a 'cinematic firefight' idea that was mentioned above but man, it doesn't really replace firefight though and the performance can really suck. I mean, down in the gutter type suck.
Blue Ninja
Member
Got a voice message today: "So Crazy Spartan told me you work for 343..."
Lemme tell you, if I worked for 343, the Chief would still be wearing his Halo 3 armor.
EDIT: Holy hell.
Nice.
Lemme tell you, if I worked for 343, the Chief would still be wearing his Halo 3 armor.
EDIT: Holy hell.
A new Phoenix Promethean.
The story is incomprehensible to anyone coming in fresh. Absolutely impenetrable story. I only know what's going on now because of Halo Wiki, watching the Terminal videos in their entirety and doing reseach on my own. The storytelling is awful.
Doug Heffernan
Member
Should mean a lot of easy kills with the assault rifle since everyone will be trying to melee. ;]
Flood? Shotgun and "Swords".
Any playlist? Boltshot.
Thanks. Didn't even think of Flood.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
No Palmer yesssss.
My episode 2 info is bugged though, sometimes it says I've beaten it and sometimes it says I haven't done any. Even though I've completed all five now, no cheeve popped. Guess I gotta do 2 again to make sure.
My episode 2 info is bugged though, sometimes it says I've beaten it and sometimes it says I haven't done any. Even though I've completed all five now, no cheeve popped. Guess I gotta do 2 again to make sure.
heh, Everything sure did go wrong ...and I like it. This is what happens when you don't have Palmer constantly checking up on you. lol
The achievement is bugged. You have to complete one of Chapters in Episode 5 alone (or with friends only - NO matchmaking) to get it. I recommend doing Chapter 1 on Easy, as you can easily knock out both the achievement and all three Weekly challenges in one.
Blue Ninja
Member
I didn't have to do that.
The "No Easy Way Out"-achievement is bugged, though. Just completed Chapter 1, survived, and got nothing. Thanks 343.
The Lamonster
Member
I believe you have to solo at least one mission for it to work.
IOnEI Falcon
Member
You most likely have to if you completed some in co-op and not solo.
For the Chapter 1, I am pretty sure you have to have both computers still alive and on Heroic and higher. No one has unlocked it on Normal. And don't activate the terminal until all the baddies are dead. And it is fine if you die. I died 4 times and got the chievo.
Ditto. I just sniped from above until the mission was finished.
PaulSancheezzee
Neo Member
Sorry for the rookiest question of all but where do I find a list of the daily challenges? It was pretty easy to find in Reach.
Start button in menus - Up, Challenges.
Or go to Halowaypoint.com. Far left once you sign into see your service record, and on the bottom of the left options is challenges.
PaulSancheezzee
Neo Member
Thanks everyone!