You wouldn't be racing if Nvidia made car parts
but I agree gaming is relatively inexpensive.
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NVIDIA to release GeForce Titan
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You wouldn't be racing if Nvidia made car parts
but I agree gaming is relatively inexpensive.
AstroNut325
Member
It's stupendously expensive. I remember a couple of times when ATI and Nvidia were so toe to toe, ATI/AMD undercut Nvidia and all the prices came crashing down on both sides to slightly more realistic levels. Whenever Nvidia get too far forward, they royally take the piss.
ArkkAngel007
Member
Thanks for the offers, but I think the fiance and my brother are picking me up a Galaxy GTX 660 that was out of stock when I first brought the subject up on upgrading. Not sure how it stands up to the 580 (good card from what I hear) or anything on AMDs end.
AstroNut325
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
At this rate, I will also wait until next year to either get 2 of the likely cheaper newer gen cards, upgrade to a 2nd 680, or sell the 680 I will be getting next month in favor of 2 of these or 2 of the next gen cards. Them choices!
HolyBaikal
Banned
That's great that many people would rather give money to charity than spend money on this. Heck, this world would be a perfect place if we all put others above ourselves.
Unfortunately, I'm still spending money on video games and hardware.
I'd like such things to play video games well. And to be honest I think I'd rather have a really nice computer than a really nice car. Also, some people are pretty rich. And there are much worse things that some people spend money on than expensive computer parts.
Unfortunately, I'm still spending money on video games and hardware.
I'd like such things to play video games well. And to be honest I think I'd rather have a really nice computer than a really nice car. Also, some people are pretty rich. And there are much worse things that some people spend money on than expensive computer parts.
ArkkAngel007
Member
If I'm understanding this all correctly, the 660 is better at filtering textures and runs quieter, cheaper, and cooler, but the 580 is overall a better card?
All this is pretty new to me since I haven't had to upgrade my PC until now.
soulassssns
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soulassssns
Banned
My GTX 460 pissed and shit itself while sitting in a corner blowing snot bubbles.
Too much?
Lol
How is it foolish to get an awesome card if you are a compuiter hardware enthusiast? Don't you like to get good things for your hobbies? Stop being jealous of people that make more than minimum wage.
AstroNut325
Member
No no no... anything expensive in gaming and technology is very very bad. And an instant fail.
Edit:
LOL! Just noticed that!
What rigs are people running monitor-wise that would make this a sensible choice? Not only that, but what games as well? This is such a small market for people that would not only need this but actually use it. I also wonder if someone is upgrading then what are their current specs too? I have absolutely no reason to be jealous of anybody buying these.
I also meant to say, if a game doesn't support SLI, then that means you are a stuck with ONE 2gb card (basically a GTX 680 2gb).
Whereas if you sli two GTX 680s (4gb) then you still have that 4gb memory if it doesn't support it. I guess 690 takes up less space. I'm only bringing this up, because the price of this new card is so high and only 85% of 690 performance. So why wouldn't someone just sli two 680 4gb for the same price as Titan - and get the same performance as a 690 (and in some cases even better).
EDIT: I guess maybe I'm missing the point of this card. I'm assuming it's meant for super high end builds, those with multi-monitor set ups. The less space it takes, means you can tri these kind of cards.
Anyone running something higher than 1080p. A single 680 can't even hit a solid 60fps in several newer games at higher resolutions. A SLI 670 setup would be about the same price as this since you would need to be buying the 4GB versions. So instead buy this and avoid dual card headaches.
I'm running a SLI 670 rig with two 1600p monitors. Yes it would save me the headache but at that point, might as well just do a 690.
That's not even getting into 3 monitor gaming or 3D Surround. Just playing Metro 2033 on a 3 monitor setup in 3D will give this card a strong workout.
Delusibeta
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Oh, I was under the impression that the "secret sause" was a reference to Durango melting after being switched on for half an hour.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
I don't know why people are hating. This is a pretty damn substantial bump for single GPU people like myself.
A 4GB 670 is ~$400. That's $800. Two 680s are more. And in both scenarios, you have to deal with SLI. $900 is out of my price range (I'd buy second hand and likely try to score a single 4GB 680 for ~$350-$400). But if I found a deal in the ~$600-$700 range, I could imagine myself splurging.
A 4GB 670 is ~$400. That's $800. Two 680s are more. And in both scenarios, you have to deal with SLI. $900 is out of my price range (I'd buy second hand and likely try to score a single 4GB 680 for ~$350-$400). But if I found a deal in the ~$600-$700 range, I could imagine myself splurging.
Does SLI have that many problems?
I'm currently using a 2gb GTX 680, and once I moved up to a higher resolution than 1080p, I've noticed the card getting worked pretty hard on some of the newer games. Was considering going the SLI route as a result.
But if it's that much of an issue, maybe this is better? I'm just confused, because just looking at the rumored specs (I admit I'm semi a noob) the Titan will be slower than the 690. So it's: SINGLE card with 6gb of ram that is slightly slower, or SLI card that is 4gb and slightly quicker.
I don't plan on going above 1440p at this point. And I'm not going to multi-monitor. So I'm wondering if I really need more than 4gb (although again, in the case where some games have issues with SLI, I would be stuck with a 2gb 680).
So back to my question, does SLI have that many issues?
I'm currently using a 2gb GTX 680, and once I moved up to a higher resolution than 1080p, I've noticed the card getting worked pretty hard on some of the newer games. Was considering going the SLI route as a result.
But if it's that much of an issue, maybe this is better? I'm just confused, because just looking at the rumored specs (I admit I'm semi a noob) the Titan will be slower than the 690. So it's: SINGLE card with 6gb of ram that is slightly slower, or SLI card that is 4gb and slightly quicker.
I don't plan on going above 1440p at this point. And I'm not going to multi-monitor. So I'm wondering if I really need more than 4gb (although again, in the case where some games have issues with SLI, I would be stuck with a 2gb 680).
So back to my question, does SLI have that many issues?
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Now Crytek can release the actual recommended specs
690 is pretty much between two 670s and two 680s in performance, and is still SLI. That's a side-grade.
On my X79 platform, I went 690->3x670 (straight trade)->2x670, and am selling off another 670. Out of my initial purchase, I'll have gained back 65% (counting for $100 waterblock that went with the 690), while keeping a 670. So that's only $200 out of pocket for the first Titan. Also made $300 from selling hardware I won in an online mod/water cooling competition, so really, I'm only paying $800 for two Titans. Plus these are all business expenses, so nice tax write offs.
This is how we manipulate ourselves into thinking it is okay.
It does, and it doesn't. In most scenarios, you can work through whatever is going on, but it takes time to figure out. That's not really a big negative if you are a tinkerer. In other situations, there's just no real answer to fix whatever problems are being faced. In this instance, you are essentially losing out on that big chunk of change you plopped down on a second card as disabling SLI is the only fix. That's kind of a bummer.
Azzurri
Member
Wait and see for me, but it is a limited run card.
I don't really think so. There are some hiccups when new updates come out, but 2-way works pretty well. More than 3 however, there are many issues.
This post actually helped a lot. Thanks for posting.
Going to just hold off (which I should do anyways).
Is there any benchmarks that compare the Titan favorably in SLI to a couple of 690s in SLI? If we're going for max performance then might as well go all the way.
Titan is not officially announced or released yet.
The only way I can remotely see this as an upgrade is if there are significant performance advantages in some SLI setup. Otherwise it's overpriced.
There aren't any, but I can guarantee that two Titans will outperform two 690s. SLI scales horribly at 3x and 4x. Two 690s = quad SLI.
Here's some benchmarks for ya. In a lot of cases, you're essentially looking at a single digit increase in performance with two 690s.
However a Titan isn't equal to a 690 so if there is a difference then it's going to be marginalized by that 15% hit per GPU. In TriSli, yea the Titan will be the clear winner though.
Wat.
15+15 =/= 90
In case this isn't clear:
Each GTX690 is two GTX680s on the same circuit board. Literally two GPUs, not a comparison. Two 690s means you have 4 680s between two circuit boards. That's as far as SLI goes. You can't SLI 3 690s.
Two 690s is going to be under 10% performance increase over a single 690 due to how poorly SLI scales with 3-4 GPUs. For really rough argument's sake, lets say two 690s = 115% performance of a 690. One Titan is 85% performance of a 690. If Titans scale poorly at ~90%, that means that two Titans are 153% performance of a 690.
if it overclocks really really really well ... I might try to ditch my 670 SLI for one of these
the amount of memory would be nice, no SLI, 16x PCI-E 2.0 ... could make a difference for next-gen console ports as Durante implied in his thread
but then again I'd be losing a lot of cash for equal performance, and I might only care about Oculus Rift stuff by then
the amount of memory would be nice, no SLI, 16x PCI-E 2.0 ... could make a difference for next-gen console ports as Durante implied in his thread
but then again I'd be losing a lot of cash for equal performance, and I might only care about Oculus Rift stuff by then
Did I ever say 90?
FloppyDelux
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imagine doing SLI with these, the outcome must be epic.
Edited my post above.