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What does NEOGAF think of the graphics on Wii U's second wave of games
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Account suicide ? This is low level trolling, PC gamers care as much about art and aesthetics.
I didn't, and Monolith Software still outdone them
I definitely win the prize for having a pair of working eyes.
I know there's no point arguing with you, didn't you make so many wii u threads that you got juniored? I won't bother trying again.
edit : or maybe I'm mistaking you with someone else...
edit 2 : yes, it was dorfdad.
Just Cause 2 & Dragon's Dogma rolled into one with a sci-fi twist and (what looks like) actual online modes.
I agree..
Basically, people need to go look at the best looking current PC games, and realize that next gen console games PS4 XBOX3 will probably be pretty close to that.
People who are used to games on the current HD systems aren't going to be blown away by games at that level. They look better, but it isn't going to set the world on fire. When you get down to the level of detail where you're rendering pores on skin, you're basically wasting time and money. We're not quite there yet, but I'm betting we're close enough that There will be a lot of disappointment visually from the next round of systems. People's expectations are just too high.
edit// And for the record, I think X looks like an upper-tier PS360 game, but at this point does it really matter? All these games look great. Even the best looking games from the cube/ps2/xbox gen still look pretty nice. Graphics aren't going to be the most important thing going forward, if they ever were.
I think Mario Wii U will also be one of the early Wii U games to show us what the Wii U can do, I mean look at Mario Galaxy, IMO it looked very impressive for a Wii game.
Just imagine the Wii U, a console that's 20x+ more powerful than Wii.
The thing is with Sony and Microsoft, they have 6-7+ years of experience with HD visuals, etc. Nintendo is just learning.
And in my opinion I really think X Wii U looks better than any PS3/360 game (that's including scale, etc)
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I didn't, and Monolith Software still outdone them
Ah, the good old winking smily. I assume thats because you have an eye disease, and when you get that fixed up and can open your left eye again without the spasms/gluey gunk, you'll join the rest of us here in reality.
KillerTravis
Banned
Sorry but it's not even close. Is it really hard to compare some Xenoblade footage with the one available of X? Although probably anything I say won't change your opinion.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Finally the Wii U is looking like this gen this gen, not just the shitty end of this gen with slowdown.
Nintendo games will always look great. Their art is awesome. They're right in saying hardware power has nothing on them
Nintendo games will always look great. Their art is awesome. They're right in saying hardware power has nothing on them
The reality that Monolith Software, on an early build, have demonstrated that they are creating a visually stunning title that outshines what's on other platforms?
Try harder
GhostTrick
Banned
Sure, I'm trolling.
Sure, I was trolling when I said draw distance was better or the scale was bigger compared to this:
but funniest thing is to be called troll when I just claim it looks slighty better than PS3/360 (I didn't talked about a gap or something), by people claiming Lair look as good or better, or by people claiming it looks like an upscaled Wii game.
I love the way you say 'other platforms' as though PS3 & 360 are the natural competitors for the Wii-U. They're an entire hardware generation older!The reality that Monolith Software, on an early build, have demonstrated that they are creating a visually stunning title that outshines what's on other platforms?
Try harder
X definitely looks better than that.
Wonderful 101 had a 60fps trailer not long ago, no? Image quality on the Wii U eshop HD video looked pretty fucking great, compression or not. Hell, i can tell the shit image quality in CoD games in direct feed YouTube or gamersyde clips *shrugs
As for xenoblade, its 30fps anyway, so YouTube shmutube. Didn't see any significant drops when shit got crazy.
Some of you guys seem to be a bit defensive (and others offensive) when it comes to well....anything related to this fucking console. And I've been pretty vocal about my issues with it, so I'm upset I've allowed myself to get caught in the crossfire here.
Edit: I mean Dave, brosef. You don't get tired of arguing with some of the stupid shit that's recycled each thread? Its going to be a looooong wait for the other two platforms at this rate. Ha!
KillerTravis
Banned
Ok I'm bailing out now. People on both sides of the argument are crazy.
Seriously? This looks impressive to you?
Just out of curiosity. What are some visually impressive games you've played recently?
First of all, as many pointed out already, this is taken from a low-res video.
The game looks incredibly impressive visually for the main reason many of us are putting the shown footage in the context of what we probably rightly are guessing the scope of the title will be, mainly due to the fact that, you know, Xenoblade exists. This visuals in the context of that scope and freedom are nothing short of stunning.
This developer delivered a title on Wii last generation that challenged what many studios accomplished on hardware x15 in power in terms of overall package and enjoyment when it comes to RPGs and what was shown today is a big deal no matter how much you feel butt hurt about it.
I will say though, I do wish the saturation where less muted, but im confident the end product will be nothing short of fantastic and satisfying like Xenoblade was.
Schnozberry
Member
Objective? Not much of that in here. It's mostly subjective reactions and the insipid dick swinging that comes with it. I don't find visuals and enjoyment to be intrinsically related. If I did, I wouldn't enjoy classic games as much as I do.
Again, we're talking eye of the beholder here, and claiming that there is somehow a correct position to hold. Technically the Yoshi Game in the OP is vastly inferior to Crysis 3 for example. Technically, a photo of the woman in the Mona Lisa would look much better than the famous painting. If someone told me they prefer Yoshi's Yarn to Crysis 3 visually in a conversation, upon what basis is there to even bother arguing with them? That's the point I was trying to make in my original post that was lost in brevity. We all have different visual tastes, and it doesn't seem like these threads change anybody's mind.
Yep. They are going to be great pieces of hardware. My PC is more powerful than both of them, and it produces great graphics, but sitting at couch distance from my HDTV, the limits of my human eyes betray me. The jump doesn't seem as vast as the $1800 I plunked down for my HTPC would have led me to believe.
I think Skyrim is closer. or maybe this scene from Halo 4.
Halo 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txmdDShriwc#t=3m10s
unfortunately the player didn't pause to look around, but the draw distance and overall visual quality in this scene is incredible.
I've been rewatching trailers thinking I might've missed something, but these claims you're making are just wrong. It isn't there. Why do this? Even in your post with the pics, its not there.
Well, obviously.
Some compressed videos and you're really going to declare it superior to everything else we've had? That's some faith.The reality that Monolith Software, on an early build, have demonstrated that they are creating a visually stunning title that outshines what's on other platforms?
Try harder
BrokenEchelon
Banned
I'd need to see them running at a proper resolution.
X looked pretty good, but it may be a different story on a 50 inch screen @ 720.
Yoshi U looked great art style wise, and I thought WW HD actually looks worse than the original.
So they're kinda all over the place.
Don't forget to call us nerds and losers while you're ahead.
X looked pretty good, but it may be a different story on a 50 inch screen @ 720.
Yoshi U looked great art style wise, and I thought WW HD actually looks worse than the original.
So they're kinda all over the place.
Don't forget to call us nerds and losers while you're ahead.
GhostTrick
Banned
That's what I claimed right here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46817527&postcount=199
So, what's the problem ?
I'm shocked and annoyed they're only slightly better, yeah. My wallet is ready for next-gen and it's so far away
And what was your point again ? That's just what I claimed. If you don't want to buy, that's not the point. You're just like jumping at me because I said it's good to finally see a Wii U game, a game on a 2012 console, looking slightly better than PS3/360 titles. Where's the problem ? I didn't claimed something as crazy as "It's next gen" or "PS4/XBox 3 won't be as good looking".
Sure, I'm trolling.
Sure, I was trolling when I said draw distance was better or the scale was bigger compared to this:
The Lair draw distance is a city, with animals fighting and soldiers , the water is dynamic moving, there is full battle going on that bridge. X pic you showed is just one static picture with trees.
X looks good. But nothing out of this generation .
Welcome to current gen.
rohlfinator
Member
I like the look of most of the new games -- Nintendo tends to play around with art styles that aren't as common on other consoles so I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with the Wii U over time.
Pretty hard to make any technical judgments from tiny gifs or compressed videos, but from what we can see I'm neither disappointed nor blown away.
Pretty hard to make any technical judgments from tiny gifs or compressed videos, but from what we can see I'm neither disappointed nor blown away.
Silent_Ocarina
Member
First sign begins here near the bottom of the page. In retrospect, though, people were really too excited for the ports on Wii U at that time.
If you played Xenoblade, you'd know that that "static picture" in X is just probably 10% of the actual area of that environment/world.
I have no problem with its visuals or scale. My only point is its nothing beyond this Gen.
I personally love WB101.
If you think Lair looks better, you need to get your eyes checked. Something is seriously wrong with your vision. Maybe you should go lay down for awhile. Forget about what you're desperately pretending to see, just make sure you don't drive in your condition.
see, I can be a condescending ass too! it's so easy! WHOO
Projectjustice
Banned
The game isnt complete. Oh and Lair doesnt look better.
GhostTrick
Banned
Exactly, and the little there is to show, based on early footage, already looks fantastic. By the time it is done, it should be even better.
Plus it has dynamic waterfalls. What i'm interested to see is what the draw distance on creatures will be.
Yeah, Corky.
When you're worked up over me literally saying X is better than Y, its time to take a breather. That post was as tongue-in-cheek as it gets.
Go work on that steam backlog or something.
MisterHero
Super Member
Lair was a waste of Factor 5. They made good-looking games on Nintendo hardware too, you know.
Games and announcements were good enough to get me perked up and interested. Are we seriously going to stay in denial mode and move the goal posts into 2014 though? We all know what the Wii U is and offering, accept it and move on. A bug free Skyrim is about what im expecting from Wii U in the end.
Yup but that needs to be said because there are a lot of people who pull out the "Wii U is not even on par with the 360" out of their asses every time they have a chance to because they read a DF article about a rushed port on new hardware. Wii U is not a hundred times more powerful, everyone knows that, but it's not that hyperbolic shit many people try to pretend either.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
I wish we had screens of MegaTen Meets Fire Emblem.
That game is seriously what interested me the most, even more than WW HD.
That game is seriously what interested me the most, even more than WW HD.
Stop being an ass
bro
And you can have your opinion. I dont think I would say lair is better , because I dont know enough about X, but what they have showed is nothing head and shoulder above it.
So the whole world is just trees?
I'd say they look ok for now but after seeing stuff on Nextbox and PS4 it's going to make this look worse. One thing that is nice is all but one game in the OP are colorful.
The things is you can't really single out graphics from games that are exclusive though. Good or bad those are the graphics you are getting if you want the game. I also think Nintendo are pretty good at minimizing or eliminating graphical shock of lesser hardware.
The things is you can't really single out graphics from games that are exclusive though. Good or bad those are the graphics you are getting if you want the game. I also think Nintendo are pretty good at minimizing or eliminating graphical shock of lesser hardware.
KillerTravis
Banned
There's still not as much things going on as in Lair, but to me Lair seems more like Kid Icarus flying sections than an open world RPG. I could be wrong.
GhostTrick
Banned
Did you played Xenoblade ? Or do you really want to try to argue that Lair and X look on par ?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Still on the realm of current gen graphics, I would say that X probably is the only one who looks a bit beyond of current gen in details like textures.