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Media Create Sales: Week 3, 2013 (Jan 14 - Jan 20)

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Lonely1

Unconfirmed Member
Soka said:
This gives me the feeling that Nintendo's next portable system will just be the WiiU tablet controller with all of the WiiU console guts shrunk down to fit inside. And, once it launches, all the WiiU games that have off-screen play will already be ready to go and just need to be downloaded from the E-shop or whatever. After that, it's just as simple as using the same assets that will already be well-established for the WiiU to develop new games.

It's genius.
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I would believe that too if the CPU wasn't PPC based.
 
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cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Just realized that SMT x FE is the first officlally announced HD Atlus RPG - yeah i doubt that jumping the WiiU/Ps3 ship will happen that quickly for J-Publishers. I could see PS4 getting version of WiiU/Ps3 title in Full HD and more effects. But i cant see many devs putting all their console egg in the Orbis/Durango basket. Especially with the uncertain future every console in this current market space has to face.
 
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BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO

Junior Member
cw_sasuke said:
Just realized that SMT x FE is the first officlally announced HD Atlus RPG - yeah i doubt that jumping the WiiU/Ps3 ship will happen that quickly for J-Publishers. I could see PS4 getting version of WiiU/Ps3 title in Full HD and more effects. But i cant see many devs putting all their console egg in the Orbis/Durango basket. Especially with the uncertain future every console in this current market space has to face.
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Isn't Atlus best selling game 300k? I think big developers like square enix and namco bandai will defintely switch over.
 
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H_Prestige

Banned
schuelma said:
Last week showed a fundamental truth regardless of 3rd parties- Nintendo has the software to make a significant impact. Their 2nd half 2013 lineup could be very potent.
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How much did mario, zelda, and smash help the n64/gamecube? How do you define "significant impact"?
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
H_Prestige said:
How much did mario, zelda, and smash help the n64/gamecube? How do you define "significant impact"?
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I'm not just talking about those titles, first of all.

Impact wise I think if they hit their releases right they could get to around 2.5-3 million by the end of the holiday season, giving Nintendo a significant lead over Sony.
 
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cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
9thwonder said:
Isn't Atlus best selling game 300k? I think big developers like square enix and namco bandai will defintely switch over.
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But even know games like Dark Souls or MGS will be released for Current-Gen Systems, they might get Orbis/Durango version which run in 1080p, but i can see many J publishers focusing on Big Games which just arent portable to PS3 or WiiU. Maybe i`m wrong, but for the next couple years i cant see it - i exoect a Vita situation where many games also look like up-ported PSP titles in higher resolution and better textures.

H_Prestige said:
How much did mario, zelda, and smash help the n64/gamecube? How do you define "significant impact"?
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Timing is important to - n64 and Cube were released way to late, to change the outcome of anything. WiiU doesnt have the problem and PS4 still have to deliver.
I dont know what big sellers Sony will have for the PS4 launch, but Nintendos Holiday lineup for Q4 and Q1 on 2013 will probably very strong and they`ll continue their co-productions with japanese developers.
 
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donny2112

Member
test_account said:
Sure, but the original game is pretty old (2007), i guess that is mostly why it sticked out to me. It is also a western title, but i know that GTA is relatively popular in Japan as well.
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To add a bit more perspective, this is the second BEST release of the game, so it's a pretty consistent seller. Together the two BEST releases have outsold the original (original - 126K, 2x BESTs - 203K).
 
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extralite

Member
H_Prestige said:
MH and DQ are not taking care of anything. MH port is already out and it's not doing anything, as expected. DQX is a late port of a Wii MMO. Not really huge sales potential, regardless of the name. Unless you're thinking DQ as a franchise is locked down by the Wii U. Which would be some serious wishful thinking.
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So you just ignore MH, which sold more than DQX on Wii. And since they won't announce a new DQ for a long time I think DQX is the new DQ for the time being. DQVII will help DQX, btw. When DQX comes to Wii U many will just have beaten DQVII. SE did the same with DQM and the original DQX. Those are appetizers, DQX is the untested new food on the menu.
 
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saichi

Member
H_Prestige said:
What exactly did they manage with the 3DS? All they did was drop the price. The software was going to come regardless. Japan devs were already flocking to the system. Price was the only roadblock. Price isn't really the Wii U's problem. It's the product itself.

You're making Nintendo seem way more competent than they actually are.
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so you knew MH was coming to 3DS before it was announced? The affect of price cut was wearing off before TGS announcements.
 
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Laguna

Banned
H_Prestige said:
How much did mario, zelda, and smash help the n64/gamecube? How do you define "significant impact"?
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N64 released nearly 2 years after PSX and Saturn (which was quite succesful in Japan) around N64 launch popular 3rd party series like Resident Evil emerged and N64/Nintendo was basically completely on its own by then. Shortly after FF7 and two consecutive sequels with FF8 and FF9.

Similar situation with Gamecube, late release ca. 1.5 years and right before Gamecube release PS2 got Final Fantasy X, again Nintendo was on its own.


After that there was PSP and NDS released at the same timeframe. Winner NDS even with a very bad 3rd party support in its first 2 years.

Then PS3 and Wii released at the same timeframe. Winner Wii, even with no significant 3rd party support and Nintendo pulling the plug in 2010 for their next-gen systems (3DS and WiiU).

3DS 10 month headstart. Winner 3DS.

WiiU released last December, with promising 3rd party collaborations on 1st party franchises and DQX+MHTri as a starting point for possible further releases.


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Fazit:
So far the only times Sony won was when they had a headstart for at least 1 year. When they didn´t they lost everytime against Nintendo so far.
 
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electroplankton

Banned
cw_sasuke said:
Just realized that SMT x FE is the first officlally announced HD Atlus RPG - yeah i doubt that jumping the WiiU/Ps3 ship will happen that quickly for J-Publishers. I could see PS4 getting version of WiiU/Ps3 title in Full HD and more effects. But i cant see many devs putting all their console egg in the Orbis/Durango basket. Especially with the uncertain future every console in this current market space has to face.
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The collaboration between Atlus and Nintendo bodes well for the latter in terms of Japanese support.
 
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Kandinsky

Member
schuelma said:
Iwata said at the end of last weeks Nintendo Direct they would show 3rd party stuff later. Let's see what that brings before declaring support dead. I suspect things are at least a bit better than what they appear to be right now, but I've been wrong plenty of times before.
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This sounds a lot like those "Vita heaven is coming..." lol D:
 
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farnham

Banned
I think at least in japan nintendo will have a good time. They have a headstart with strong titles like wii fit comming reasonably soon. Microsoft will be a nonfactor and sony seems to be weaker than last gen (japan was sonys strongest region last gen with psp outperforming wii) with vita being a big dissapointment so far.

Now in the west wiiu will struggle a lot more

Kandinsky said:
This sounds a lot like those "Vita heaven is coming..." lol D:
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Unlike sony so far nintendo has strong first party titles comming out on wiiu
 
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iammeiam

Member
Kandinsky said:
This sounds a lot like those "Vita heaven is coming..." lol D:
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My reaction to the latest ND was honestly that it was exactly what Sony should have done with Vita Game Heaven 2--all first party stuff, all within their control, but leaves a strong impression that they'll continue to back their product despite recent tribulations. I'm hoping the 3rd Party Direct is an actual event, too, and not just Nintendo hoping they'll eventually have third party support to show off.
 
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metalslimer

Member
The optimistic side in me says that Nintendo put that direct together so fast there was literally no time to ask 3rd parties for games to put in for trailers. The less optimistic side says that was a deliberate stall so Nintendo won't have to admit the truth
 
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farnham

Banned
Kandinsky said:
Well this one is a third party focused one, so it might indeed never happen :p
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I have been thinking about this..

Nintendo wouldnt completely exclude non-nintendo published titles from the nintendo direct (lego city stories undercover and wonderful 101 is nintendo published) if they dont have anything on the third party front and announce it as a separate thing.
 
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Father_Brain

Banned
IMO, Nintendo still deserves some small shred of benefit of the doubt on Wii U's Japanese third-party support, but not for much longer. If the next ND to include third-party Wii U games fails to deliver, or if it fails to materialize by the end of February or so, time to abandon all hope.

metalslimer said:
The optimistic side in me says that Nintendo put that direct together so fast there was literally no time to ask 3rd parties for games to put in for trailers. The less optimistic side says that was a deliberate stall so Nintendo won't have to admit the truth
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Given that this ND was already a month late relative to the previous bimonthly schedule, I'm more inclined to believe the latter. I guess we'll see... man, that investor briefing/Q&A on Wednesday night will make for interesting reading.
 
Porcile

Porcile

Member
Any Third Party games announced in a Direct would instantly gain a lot more exposure, than if the publisher announced it themselves via PR or magazine features. It makes sense for Third Parties to piggyback on the success of Nintendo Directs. It's not like it would be out of the ordinary either. Plenty of big-name Wii and DS Third-Party games were revealed at Nintendo events.
 
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Road

Member
Prediction League February, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jan 28 to Feb 24):

[PS3] Metal Gear Rising (4d) - 222,222
[3DS] Dragon Quest VII (18d) - 1,111,111
 
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electroplankton

Banned
Prediction League February, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jan 28 to Feb 24):

[PS3] Metal Gear Rising (4d) - 195,000
[3DS] Dragon Quest VII (18d) - 1,050,000
 
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Road

Member
From the Dengeki PlayStation 535 (up to 01/14):

- [PSV] CODBO Declassified: 15.8k first week, 33.4k LTD
- [PSV] Minna no Golf 6: 168k LTD

Is anyone in GAF living in Japan interested in buying the Dengeki PlayStation 534?

I pay, you read. I just want the 2012 Top 30. =P
 
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StreetsAhead

Member
So, over the next 8 weeks until Wii U's next first party release (I'm counting) with Game and Wario, I guess the absolute max is 120K sales total and even that is not looking incredibly likely. Anything less than 50K over that period though would look disastrous.

Speaking of, the Wii U gets its first release since December 20th tomorrow! Congratulations. :p
 
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metalslimer

Member
StreetsAhead said:
So, over the next 8 weeks until Wii U's next first party release (I'm counting) with Game and Wario, I guess the absolute max is 120K sales total and even that is not looking incredibly likely. Anything less than 50K over that period though would look disastrous.

Speaking of, the Wii U gets its first release since December 20th tomorrow! Congratulations. :p
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50k is extremely low for an 8 week period. Even when Vita hit sub 10k it was a very slow decline around there. So even if Wii U sold 8k a week on average it would be 64k. Sub 50k would just be dead.
 
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BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO

Junior Member
StreetsAhead said:
So, over the next 8 weeks until Wii U's next first party release (I'm counting) with Game and Wario, I guess the absolute max is 120K sales total and even that is not looking incredibly likely. Anything less than 50K over that period though would look disastrous.

Speaking of, the Wii U gets its first release since December 20th tomorrow! Congratulations. :p
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Lol that's way to low
 
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StreetsAhead

Member
metalslimer said:
50k is extremely low for an 8 week period. Even when Vita hit sub 10k it was a very slow decline around there. So even if Wii U sold 8k a week on average it would be 64k. Sub 50k would just be dead.
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Well, it has 4 retail releases between now and the end of March (Ken's Rage, Tank! Tank! Tank!, Need for Speed, & Game and Wario). I'm not getting any hopes up, although you're right in that sub-50K was probably too low. Probably.
 
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hongcha

Member
StreetsAhead said:
Well, it has 4 retail releases between now and the end of March (Ken's Rage, Tank! Tank! Tank!, Need for Speed, & Game and Wario). I'm not getting any hopes up, although you're right in that sub-50K was probably too low. Probably.
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10k a week is definitely possible, but that would give about 80~90k by the end of March. 120~150k is probably more realistic, as Game and Wario should give a nice boost.
 
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metalslimer

Member
I'm more interested in how much money they made or lost. Will be a good indicator for how the 3DS business can prop Nintendo up over this year which will be very hard for Wii U.
 
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Hobby

Member
Nintendo 3DS hardware: 12.71 million
Nintendo 3DS software: 39.56 million
Animal Crossing: New Leaf: 2.73 million

NSMBU: 2.01 million
Nintendo Land: 2.33 million
Wii U hardware: 3.06 million
Wii U software: 11.69 million

Wii hardware: 3.53 million
Wii software: 45.08 million
Mario Party 9: over 1 million
 
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