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In my 18 years of gaming, I've never played a Sony system. Could PS4 still be for me?

Just get a PS3. PS2 is great, but the majority of the big titles you'd want are now available in HD collections or for download through emulation on the store. You won't get everything though but there is still an insane amount of catching up to do across three generations.

The only title I really want that I haven't been able to play on PS3 is Persona 4

If by the time you're done catching up there are still titles you need to play, I'm sure PS4 will support full BC for PS2. Though perhaps not PS3.
 

Mikey Jr.

Member
So you've missed all of the PS1, PS2, and PS3 library?

Holy shit.

As for if it's for you, I guess. I mean, if you've never played a PS console, its hard to say. BUT, if you enjoy the 360, the jump to the PS3/PS4 is an easy one. A lot of overlap between the games, plus exclusive PS3 ones.
 
"I've exhibitied disregard for life, limb, and property."

"Though I've lived a double life, at least I can say 'I have lived'".

This is one of the worst commercials (Sony or otherwise) I have ever seen (and I feel like that's saying something). Perhaps it's due to my PR/marketing background, but good lord, please hire me Sony. Despite having literally never played any of your consoles I could do a tremendously better job than literally everything I've ever seen that your advertising department has ever put out.

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You need to consider that commercial from the time when it was made. It was incredibly progressive, new and eye catching. From a time when video game commercials produced by the competition were typically like this:

http://youtu.be/xU3ZjJ-XWxo

Sony had absolutely remarkable marketing throughout the PS1 and PS2 era
 

Espada

Member
Wow. I'd definitely recommend picking up a PS2 and buying all the highest rated PS1 and PS2 games. By the time you get through those the PS3 will have dropped in price and you can try that machine's games and the handful of HD collections out for it.

You'll have more than enough games to play through to last you 1-2 years easily.
 

Game Guru

Member
Wait... You've stuck with Nintendo through the N64 and GameCube eras and only now you are thinking of getting a Sony system? You, my friend, should get a PS2 right now and see if you can find PS1 & PS2 games. Pretty much all the third parties of the SNES jumped ship to the PS1 and stuck almost exclusively with PS1 & PS2 until the HD Twins came on the scene. 360 and PS3 are pretty interchangeable save for mostly first-party games, which Sony has more variety in, but less of really big hits like Halo. There is no reason to believe that PS4 and Xbox Whatever will not be basically interchangeable in game selection as well.
 
You need to consider that commercial from the time when it was made. It was incredibly progressive, new and eye catching. From a time when video game commercials produced by the competition were typically like this:

http://youtu.be/xU3ZjJ-XWxo

Sony had absolutely remarkable marketing throughout the PS1 and PS2 era

Indeed. Its downright laughable to shrug off OG Sony marketing, especially from someone in the industry. Its what helped escalate them to dominance.
 
Wow.

I'm just thinking about this...



You've probably never played a Suikoden game.

Or a Twisted Metal.

Or a Jumping Flash, or any of the Crash games, or Ape Escape, or Sly, or Ratchet and Clank games.

Or Onimusha 2.

You've never rapped with Parrapa the Rapper.

Or played most of the Legacy of Kain games, if any.

You've never played a Wipeout.

You've never played a God of War.

Or an Uncharted.

Or Ico.

Or Shadow of the Colossus.

Or any Gran Turismo.

You've never played a Hot Shots Golf, or MLB The Show.

Or Loco Roco or Patapon?


...that's just off the top of my head. And I'm not even including PSN, which is where some real gaming breakthroughs occurred this gen. OMG...you've never played anything from the PixelJunk series.
 

Shayan

Banned
I think the PS3 was the only time there were exclusives to the system which I wanted to play.

I should really get a PS3, but their still expensive.

yes for KZ, GOW, HR, UC,LBP,GT

for those 6 series alone you should get a ps3. It has the best lineup of exclusive game and i should go as far as saying Uncharted 1,2,3 alone warrant a purchase of ps3

As for PS4, i see almost every gamer getting it . cant wait for KZ4 reveal
 
Indeed. Its downright laughable to shrug off OG Sony marketing, especially from someone in the industry. Its what helped escalate them to dominance.
That commercial doesnt tick a lot of boxes now, marketing changes a lot. I just assume the OP thought it was relatively new

For the time, it was amazing. Not something you'd expect out of a game commercial and it really challenged notions of how games should and did get marketed. Sony changed the industry in so many ways, including marketing.

Sonys entire trippy take on lifestyle, especially with PS2, caught on everywhere. Even Nintendo tried to replicate it

http://youtu.be/yP-xFCajpm8

And Microsoft

http://youtu.be/GUlgdxL5j78
 

RedSwirl

Junior Member
OP is a good case for BC in the PS4. He could just buy one machine and catch up on three console generations worth of games.
 

-Cwalat-

Member
Sir, might i ask you why on earth you couldn't have put a fraction of those dollars on a videogame console that would give you so much?

If i were you my friend i would go out and buy a PS1 just to experience the most important period in videogame history.

Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill, Resident Evil, Tekken, Gran Turismo, Grand Theft Auto, Castlevania, Crash Bandicoot, Driver, Legacy of Kain, Spyro, Twisted Metal, Tomb Raider, Dead or Alive etc etc etc..


That console meant so much to the game industry, i don't think people realize what it achieved.
 

RedSwirl

Junior Member
But seriously though, I'm a bit in the same boat as the OP. I didn't own any Sony hardware until I bought a PS2 in 2005, which turned out to be the perfect time: As the then next gen consoles were still getting their shit together I was drowning in a ton of classic games at incredible prices.

Really, if you can I would say track down a 60GB PS3, but I'm not sure how easy it is to find a working one these days. They all kind of have a lifespan due to a flaw in their design that didn't rear it's head until years after the fact. That way you got PS1 compatibility (and PS1 classics on PSN), the full library of PS2 games, and PS3 games of course. If not then I would say a slim PS3 and slim PS2.

Maybe you should wait until the 20th though when we know what the PS4 actually is. If it turns out to have full PS2 software emulation or something then I think that'll make it extremely valuable. The PS2 library is still arguably the best ever.
 
man, you have a backlog big enough to last you a lifetime. with that said, will the ps4 be for you? maybe. the only way to truly know is to play the system itself or play ps1/2/3 sony games from this and the past generation to see if you like their games.
 

ajim

Member
I'm in a similar boat, I've never owned a PSX, PS2, or PS3. However, I have owned and really enjoyed the PSP and PSVita.

The PS4 looks like the first home PS I'm going to own... Pretty excited for it.
 
Man, forget about Playstation for a second, from the OP it sounds like you never played a PC game, either? Now there's some history to catch up on.
Correct. A high-quality gaming PC is definitely out of my budget

I can't even wrap my head around the idea.

Get a PS2 especially, that thing is heaven. And look forward to the PS4.
I'm thinking more towards next-gen though. I do my classic gaming during droughts of current releases, so I'd love to have a PS4 and then be able to stream games from the previous system on this Gaikai service... you can already stream PS1 and 2 games on PS+, right? And they have a lot of the classics available? I'm hoping that remains in place with the PS4, with the addition of PS3 games. That would be the ultimate value for me... though maybe I'm not describing how PS+ works at all, and perhaps I'm misreading what Gaikai will offer as well. I literally solely know about these services (and anything else Sony) from the occasional Playstation threads I browse on GAF (which aren't many, because why waste time reading about something I'm not going to be able to play?)

He's right, though. While what you list is indeed great, the notion of not ever getting to play Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, the Uncharteds, the Ratchets, the Sly Coopers, Infamous, the Metal Gears, the Suikodens, the Personas, the Yakuzas, the God of Wars, Valkyria Chronicles, Journey, Flower...you've missed so many things that are irreplaceable gaming experiences, at least to me. It's no different from having missed the Zeldas, the Marios, the Halos, the GTAs. If you love the medium, I don't understand the notion of only picking two of three systems. Even systems I find disappointing overall, like the Wii, have games on them I wouldn't trade for anything on another system.

On one hand, you're in for a treat with a lot of what you've missed, but on the other, much of it is either unattainable now (the Suikodens, for example) or ravaged by time (most of the PSone library and some of the PS2's). It's a very temporal medium, and it's hard to go back if you don't have a nostalgic streak for some of the older stuff.
Yeah, damn, that sounds like a pretty solid list. And I DO love the medium, which is why it would be fantastic to catch up on all of these games I've never played.

I'm not sure though how it's so hard for some of you to understand why a person might be in my situation. Gaming is an incredibly expensive hobby. I wasn't financially capable of supporting my gaming until this most recent gen (before that I was too young for a job so I relied on gifts and the occasional game that I could afford with allowance money, plus plenty of rentals), and despite now being a broke college student who has mainly only had minimum-wage gigs, I still bought the Wii and 360 and amassed very large gaming collections for both. Not to mention all of the DS and now 3DS expenses. There's always something good to play too... it's not like I didn't have plenty of content with the systems I owned.

Guess what... I don't have an HD TV either! Which, ya know, really freaking sucks, but again, I've never been able to budget it in.

Sir, might i ask you why on earth you couldn't have put a fraction of those dollars on a videogame console that would give you so much?

If i were you my friend i would go out and buy a PS1 just to experience the most important period in videogame history.

I want a backwards compatible PS4, dammit! Give me all four systems in one Sony! :(

Oh god you're so wrong its not even funny, literally among the best commercials ever made.
What year was it from?

You need to consider that commercial from the time when it was made. It was incredibly progressive, new and eye catching. From a time when video game commercials produced by the competition were typically like this:

http://youtu.be/xU3ZjJ-XWxo

Sony had absolutely remarkable marketing throughout the PS1 and PS2 era
Yeah, okay, I can definitely understand this then. I thought this was a PS3 era ad, and I firmly stand by the notion that it would be a terrible advertisement to enact in the current industry climate.

So what happened to their marketing then? All I'm familiar with are the hilarious terri-bad ones... creepy baby, racist PSP, etc.

Wow.

I'm just thinking about this...

You've probably never played a Suikoden game.

Or a Twisted Metal.

Or a Jumping Flash, or any of the Crash games, or Ape Escape, or Sly, or Ratchet and Clank games.

Or Onimusha 2.

You've never rapped with Parrapa the Rapper.

Or played most of the Legacy of Kain games, if any.

You've never played a Wipeout.

You've never played a God of War.

Or an Uncharted.

Or Ico.

Or Shadow of the Colossus.

Or any Gran Turismo.

You've never played a Hot Shots Golf, or MLB The Show.

Or Loco Roco or Patapon?

...that's just off the top of my head. And I'm not even including PSN, which is where some real gaming breakthroughs occurred this gen. OMG...you've never played anything from the PixelJunk series.
I have not played a single game on this list. Feels bad man

That commercial doesnt tick a lot of boxes now, marketing changes a lot. I just assume the OP thought it was relatively new

For the time, it was amazing. Not something you'd expect out of a game commercial and it really challenged notions of how games should and did get marketed. Sony changed the industry in so many ways, including marketing.

Sonys entire trippy take on lifestyle, especially with PS2, caught on everywhere. Even Nintendo tried to replicate it

http://youtu.be/yP-xFCajpm8

And Microsoft

http://youtu.be/GUlgdxL5j78
Fascinating. It's a shame they lost focus this gen with their marketing, I love me some relevant and effective ads.

Also, while I'm thinking about it, how is the Dualshock controller? I HAVE held one before (the PS2 one) and it didn't fit my grip nearly as comfortably as what I was used to. And NOW the 360 controller has become my favorite ever... the DS4 images look like the controller is in a very similar vein to previous iterations, which concerns me... but then again, maybe the comfort level clicks once you adapt and are used to using it.
 
Oddly enough, after my Dualshock concern in my previous post, I came across this in a separate thread.
Ps3 exclusive games are not good aside from naughty dog games. Oh and the dual shock is awful.
One random person's opinion is scaring me here! I demand comfort in my controllers, dammit!

Also, does anybody think that the Playstation history videos sony has been putting out in preparation for the 20th are any sort of sign suggesting an expansive backwards compatibility feature? This is probably just me being incredibly wishful in my thinking.
 

Concept17

Member
Wow...

Just get a PS3 and hop on Psn. Buy PS 1 and 2 games recommended by others. Buy Ps3 exclusives.

Just do it. PS1 was truly amazing. The thing about Sony is they have always tried having something for everyone and this has stayed true for every system. And each system has built further upon this concept.
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
"I have spent tens of thousands of dollars on this hobby!"

"I have never owned a gaming pc or hdtv."
 
I had a PS1 but only had FFVII and FFIX, and never had a PS2, but I enjoyed my PS3. The OS is sloppy and unintuitive but not plastered in advertisements, no charge for online and since headsets don't come in every box there aren't as many mouthy children online, and Blu-Ray is awesome.

I don't particularly care for most Sony first party games, but it has a wide selection of third party exclusives. I don't know much about PS4 but it seems like a safe bet for consistent entertainment.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
It's a video game console. The PS3 is not much different from the 360. In terms of experience, the only big thing the PS3 lacks is party chat, which will make your online experience much more solitary on the PS3. That shouldn't apply to the PS4. What you can expect is 95% of the same games with some varying exclusives.
 

maltrain

Junior Member
You should buy a PS3 and:

* Buy some PSOne classics that you never played before (I guess Vagrant Story; Final Fantasy VII, VIII and IX; Silent Hill; Metal Gear!!!).

* Buy some PS2 Classics out there (Odin Sphere for example).

* Buy some HD Collections as Silent Hill, Metal Gear, Ico/Shadow of the Colossus, God of War or Devil May Cry.

* And then, only then, start buying exclusives gems for PS3, like Metal Gear, all the Uncharted, Heavy Rain or Infamous.

* After you play all that and finish, maybe around 2015, you should buy a PS4. ;)
 
If I was in this situation I would probably get a PSP for playing PS1 games on. I think Gamestop was selling used or refurbished PSP Go units for $50 recently. If that's still going on, thatd be the cheapest way to start getting into some PS1 games
 

VanWinkle

Member
I seriously can't believe all of the incredible games you have missed out on. It makes my brain cry. I would personally invest in a PS3, since it plays PS1 games, and a lot of the PS2 games are in HD collections for cheap. there are so many amazing PS3 games out there. Then maybe get a PS4 in a year or so (or even at launch if you feel inclined since it probably won't be backwards compatible anyway).
 
If you love single player games like my self, you missed out on so many good games I almost feel sorry for you. There is still time.

Edit; wow it hit me just now the magnitude of your loss. Get a PS2 now.
 

meta4

Junior Member
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He is right. PS1 made video games a pop culture phenomenon and like some said a lifestyle. It is an extremely important console and in my opinion even more important than the PS2.
 

Rolf NB

Member
Even after folding a few studios this gen, Sony still has the strongest, most diverse first party by all possible counts. It's not even a contest. Mostly because Nintendo sat on their thumbs and all but missed their opportunity to pour those Wii profits into studio expansion.

+ all third parties are on board by default

+ PSN games and Minis cover down to smaller and "indie" type budgets, and there's a good steady stream of both. Just look at this: http://ps3.ign.com/index/psn-games.html
Sony seems to accomodate the needs of even the smallest studios better than either XBLIG or the eShops ever did, and it has translated into steady ongoing support on all points of the gaming spectrum, not just AAA flavor of the month.
 

entremet

Member
You should buy a PS3 and:

* Buy some PSOne classics that you never played before (I guess Vagrant Story; Final Fantasy VII, VIII and IX; Silent Hill; Metal Gear!!!).

* Buy some PS2 Classics out there (Odin Sphere for example).

* Buy some HD Collections as Silent Hill, Metal Gear, Ico/Shadow of the Colossus, God of War or Devil May Cry.

* And then, only then, start buying exclusives gems for PS3, like Metal Gear, all the Uncharted, Heavy Rain or Infamous.

* After you play all that and finish, maybe around 2015, you should buy a PS4. ;)

Great advice. Although the Silent Hill collection isn't too good.
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
It's a video game console. The PS3 is not much different from the 360. In terms of experience, the only big thing the PS3 lacks is party chat, which will make your online experience much more solitary on the PS3. That shouldn't apply to the PS4. What you can expect is 95% of the same games with some varying exclusives.

Gotta disagree. There's much more than no party chat that differentiates them. Party chat is the most over-exaggerated worthless feature I've ever seen lol.

Free online access, more diverse selection of genres, more multimedia center options, PS Plus, blu-ray player, ease of hd upgrades, smoother and more unobtrusive os, so on..so on..

Lack of included headset, no legacy trophy support, obtrusive system/game updates (without Plus), lack of some third party application support (like HBOGo), only 2 USB ports now, PSN speed fluctuations (I've never experienced, but clearly many have), so on..so on..actually I'm struggling to find more disadvantages other than in America more of your shooter game friends are likely to have a 360.
 

Mokubba

Member
PS4 won't be out for a while.

What you need to do is repent for you sins and buy a PS3 then amass a backlog and try to finish it before the PS4 is out.
 

jgmo870

Banned
Oddly enough, after my Dualshock concern in my previous post, I came across this in a separate thread.

One random person's opinion is scaring me here! I demand comfort in my controllers, dammit!

POWER-A-Batarang-Controller-for-PS3-dark.jpg



It's dumb looking but it should work out if you like the 360's contorller. I never used it, though.
 
Damn you missed out on PS1 and PS2? I know everyone has already said but dang that is unfortunate. Some of the best games of all time were on those systems.
 
Wow, I know I made a thread about brand loyalty, but wow. You need to buy an OG PS3 and play psx-ps3 games. TOO MANY GAMES TO LIST. TOO MANY. I dont even know how you missed out on the greatest console of all time in the ps2. Like how?
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Gotta disagree. There's much more than no party chat that differentiates them. Party chat is the most over-exaggerated worthless feature I've ever seen lol.

Free online access, more diverse selection of genres, more multimedia center options, PS Plus, blu-ray player, ease of hd upgrades, smoother and more unobtrusive os, so on..so on..

Lack of included headset, no legacy trophy support, obtrusive system/game updates (without Plus), lack of some third party application support (like HBOGo), only 2 USB ports now, PSN speed fluctuations (I've never experienced, but clearly many have), so on..so on..actually I'm struggling to find more disadvantages other than in America more of your shooter game friends are likely to have a 360.

I was speaking more about the gaming experience. Party chat is a big deal when it comes to the online gaming experience. I simply don't game on my 360 at all, but when I did, party really changed how I played games. I would hop on with a party of friends any time I was on the 360, and we'd end up hopping from game to game together. The PS3 online experience is vastly different. When I hop on the PS3, it's to play a game by myself.
 
Hey OP, at least you received the greatest Christmas present ever in 1994. ;-)

What I would do if i were you? Buy a PS2 and some legendary (PS1) games first!

PS3 has a lot of good games too but it can't touch the gigantic PS2 library of games.
 
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