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Media Create Sales: Week 7, 2013 (Feb 11 - Feb 17)
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Well PSV had promises of a FF game for the system too... eventually, lol.
MasterSheen
Member
Why would there be meltdowns if pretty much everyone is expecting it to happen soon, if not next week?
Yeah, Japan was a 3DS only country before the conference, just as much so after.
Haha I was wondering the same thing. Funnily enough when you look back the list of developers seems so small in comparison, wonder how much of Sony's stuff will end up falling through.
http://www.pocket-console.com/2011/10/3ds-launch-list-revisited-lesson-in.html
test_account
XP-39C²
Did the Square Enix guy say that a Final Fantasy game would come to PS4 this year?
Stabilizing, stabilizing, STABILIZING ... It happened, Jim. She's under 10K!
Yeah, it's expected.
He said that they would have Final Fantasy news at E3, obviously in relation to the PS4.
When they said they were showing a tech demo that was not a current game, I really expected them to trot out an updated version of the Final Fantasy VII PS3 tech demo. Was disappoint.
Sony didn't list games so it's a bit less misleading because you can't really get your hopes up.
walking fiend
Member
The thing is that Nintendo fans can condole themselves by 3DS, that's why people aren't worrying much. But for me personally at least, Wii U <10k is really surprising [though I fully expect it now, but not 2 months ago]
Didn't catch the whole list (stuttering video), but saw that there was an awful lot. The real question, then, will be which of those studios will go under before they get their chance to release a PS4 game.
test_account
XP-39C²
Ah, so he said "E3". I thought he said "release".He said that they would have Final Fantasy news at E3, obviously in relation to the PS4.
When they said they were showing a tech demo that was not a current game, I really expected them to trot out an updated version of the Final Fantasy VII PS3 tech demo. Was disappoint.
You can see the picture here:
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18f9uk10m7fwfjpg/original.jpg
Several of these publishers/developers are smaller, so we're looking at digital download titles only as well.
The full list is quite enormous:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514484
But if you read Mario's post in that thread it suddenly takes on a new bent heh.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Several of the listed studios don't exist as independent entities at all. They listed Grasshopper and GungHo, D3 and Namco, LucasArts and Disney.
I don't think Genki makes games anymore.
So that's one...
Thanks for the list! Yeah, interesting on that Mario comment. Maybe the text list is just all licensed Sony developers, PS4 or otherwise?
I wouldn't be surprised if the 3DS has more relevant 3rd party games announced in a few hours than PS4 and Wii U will have in the entire 2013 combined.
For those reading, let me spare you a reply:
"Wait for E3"
"Wait for TGS"
"Wait for Nintendo Direct"
"Wait for PS4 Heaven"
So with the tidbit about DQX at the end of the 3DS third-party Nintendo Direct, anyone else think that Nintendo just couldn't scrounge up enough third-party support for Wii U currently to warrant a full Nintendo Direct, so put the one biggish piece of news they had in this one?
More and more, that's looking to be the case. I'm sure there are some games, but maybe they're not at a stage to be shown properly yet??
Though they even showed Bayonetta 2 being developed, that's just a big bulletpoint into catering to hardcores. This should apply to currently developed games. Nintendo is in a tough spot.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
At least wait till the we know the launch lineup. PS4 has potential to have a great first year in Japan if MGS, FF, GT can make it by holiday 2014. The biggest issue with the ps4 is probably be the price however Sony does not have to worry about third party support because it is clear the WiiU is not being adopted like the 3DS was in Japan.
Also PS4 falcom game.....lol
metalslimer
Member
Resident Evil Revelations Direct...
3 games even of those level won't save an expenive PS4 vs the 3DS. Although this morning's direct didn't bring the influx of support I expected.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Nope, the vast majority of those 3DS games actually turned into something (at least Japan side). It's more like the infamous Vita 3rd party support list:
PS Vita
ACQUIRE Corp.
Jorudan Co., Ltd.
ALPHA･UNIT CO.,LTD
KADOKAWA GAMES, LTD.
ALVION Inc.
Kadokawa Shoten Publishing Co., Ltd.
AQ INTERACTIVE INC.
KAGA CREATE CO., LTD
AQUAPLUS Co., Ltd
Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
ARC SYSTEM WORKS Co., Ltd.
LEVEL-5 Inc.
ARIKA CO., LTD.
MAGES Inc. （5pb）
ARTDINK CORPORATION
Mainichi Communications Inc.
ASCII MEDIA WORKS Inc.
Marvelous Entertainment Inc.
ASGARD Co., Ltd.
media5 Corporation
Aspect Co., Ltd.
NAMCO BANDAI Games Inc.
BROCCOLI Co., Ltd.
Nihon Falcom Corporation
Capcom Co., Ltd．
Nippon Ichi Software, Inc.
CHUN SOFT CO., Ltd
NOWPRODUCTION, CO., LTD
Codemasters Software Company Limited
Oaks co., Lｔｄ.
Crafts & Meister Co., Ltd.
PAON CORPORATION
CyberConnect2 Co., Ltd.
POLYGON MAGIC, INC.
CYBERFRONT Corporation
PROTOTYPE CO., LTD.
D3 PUBLISHER Inc.
Q Entertainment Inc.
DIGITAL WORKS ENTERTAINMENT INC.
SAFARI GAMES., Ltd
Dimps Corporation
SEGA CORPORATION
dorasu corporation
SilverStarJapan Co., Ltd.
Edia Co., Ltd.
SNK PLAYMORE CORPORATION
ENTERBRAIN, INC.
Sonic Powered co., Ltd.
FromSoftware, Inc.
Spike Co., Ltd
Gameloft K.K.
SQUARE ENIX Co., Ltd.
GANBARION Co., Ltd.
Starfish-SD Inc.
Genki Co., Ltd.
SUNCORPORATION
Grasshopper Manufacture Inc.
SystemPrisma Co., Ltd.
GungHo Online Entertainment, Inc.
SystemSoft Alpha Corp.
GUST CO., LTD.
TECMO KOEI GAMES CO., LTD.
HAMSTER Corporation
TGL
HUNEX CO., LTD.
TOMY Company, Ltd.
IDEA FACTORY CO., LTD.
TOSE CO., LTD.
Ignition Entertainment Ltd.
tri-Ace Inc.
IMAGICA DIGITALSCAPE Co., Ltd.
Ubisoft K.K.
Index Corporation （Atlus）
Views Co., Ltd.
IREM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING INC.
YUKE'S Co., Ltd
PS4
ACQUIRE Corp.
ARC SYSTEM WORKS CO.,LTD.
ARTDINK CORPORATION
ASCII MEDIA WORKS Inc.
Bethesda Softworks, LLC
CAPCOM
Chara-Ani Corporation
CRAFTS & MEISTER CO.,LTD.
CyberConnect2 Co.,Ltd.
D3 PUBLISHER Inc.
Dimps Corporation
Electronic Arts Inc.
FromSoftware, Inc.
GANBARION Co., Ltd.
Genki Co., Ltd.
Granzella Inc.
GRASSHOPPER MANUFACTURE INC.
GungHo Online Entertainment, Inc.
GUST CO.,LTD.
IDEA FACTORY Co., Ltd.
IMAGEEPOCH INC.
Index Corp.（ATLUS)
KADOKAWA GAMES,LTD.
KADOKAWA SHOTEN CO., LTD.
Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
LEVEL-5 Inc.
MAGES. Inc.
MarvelousAQL Inc.
NAMCO BANDAI Games Inc.
NAMCO BANDAI Studios Inc.
NIHON FALCOM CORPORATION
Nippon Ichi Software, Inc.
O-TWO inc. (peakvox)
PlatinumGames Inc.
SEGA Corporation
SPIKE CHUNSOFT Co.,Ltd.
SQUARE ENIX Co., Ltd.
SystemSoft Alpha Corp.
TECMO KOEI GAMES Co.,Ltd.
TOSE CO., LTD.
tri-Ace Inc.
Ubisoft Entertainment
WILL CO., LTD
XING Inc.
YUKE'S Co.,Ltd.
I agree it is incredibly early, but nothing I saw yesterday changed my opinion that Sony will be focusing even heavier on the West than last generation. I would be somewhat surprised to see good Japanese support at launch, first and third party.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Don't those seem like pretty big ifs considering how long we got to watch FF XIII and GT5 canoe through years of development after first being shown?Psycho_Mantis said:
michaelius
Banned
Haha wishfull thinking aren't wii ?
Lord_Byron28
Member
Well wasnt this direct primarily just aimed at the next few months for japan? I think the direct was a pretty big misnomer though considering it was supposed to be strictly about 3rd party 3DS games but 1st party and wii u titles bled into there. Granted I'd hardly expect any significant news. Watchdogs and revelations at this rate could be considered a blessing for wii u since publishers seem reluctant to even port their PS360 projects over. Didn't Iwata say he'd be addressing lack of 3rd party support for Wii U at GDC? I seem to see some places citing iwata saying it at their big January Direct then again Iwata uses google street view as an example in that same quote so that is scary.
Based on current anounced titles, the PS4 would be lucky to sell Vita numbers. However, there's plenty of time for more titles to be anounced and I think there is little doubt that they will get good 3rd party support. Its just matter of when and commenting on sales potential now seems silly as we have little indication of launch lineup.
Allan Holdsworth
Member
Isn't it too soon to release Tomodachi Collection while Animal Crossing is still selling gangbusters? I thought they would save it for the Holidays or something.
I dunno if that article I linked earlier is fully up to date (Chocobo Racing still black and Shin Megami Tensei still red) but around 25 cancellations/vaporware annoucements out of 70 still seems like a hefty chunk to me. Would be really interesting to see how this Vita list compares too though, I'm too lazy to count. I just like the idea of quantifying the BS for all these company announcement lists heh.
Surprised me too, they aren't playing around this year, seems like they won't allow the 3DS to fall into normal sales level. Of course they need the success and with MH4/later Pokemon the Userbase can't be bug enough.
This was one of those "let's go over what's coming out in the next few months and give some dates" Nintendo Directs. There was another like this last year, where it went through the games in chronological order and then repeated it in a calendar format at the end. The farthest out games were SMTIV on May 23 and MH4 in "Summer." There will obviously be more games past March/April than those from third-parties, so this one probably was not supposed to be a "announce a bunch of new games" Nintendo Direct.
Yeah. So there's not going to be a whole lot of anything in the next few month's for Wii U from third-parties, then, since they didn't put out a Wii U specific ND like this 3DS one.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Well we've known this for a while. Did anyone expect new titles to be anounced and released before their "launch window"(lol) titles?
RE: Revelations should be out before some of their "launch window" games. There just really is nothing much for the system for months here. Hopefully when Pikmin 3 and/or Wii Fit U do come out, they'll actually put some effort into a renewed sales push for the console.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I said Japan side. The only ones that didn't amount to something there were Chocobo Racing (was real, undoubtedly canceled), Bomberman (because Konami murdered Hudson), Kororinpa (ditto), Ninja Gaiden (who knows?) and Persona (YET, Atlus managed ALL their other prelaunch announcements). 4 to 5 out of 41 doesn't seem quite so bad.
Dev support lists are another matter entirely though. I think roughly half that Vita list actually released or announced game at this point.
MGS"5" (whatever Ground Zero/Phantom Pain is supposed to be, that is) is likely a cross-generation game, so it should be on track to release next year. In case of Final Fantasy, it depends on what they are going to show. Versus might be cross-generation too, I also think that a PS4 version of FF14 is very likely (similar to DQX being on both Wii and Wii U), that might a potential first year release too.
Gran Turismo on the other hand? No chance. The very existence of Club Driver pretty much confirms that there won't be a new GT any time soon.
Though, another problem becomes apparent this way: All of these games will likely also hit the PS3, so PS4 sales likely won't benefit much from them.
Realistically, who would even be developing games for the Wii U that Nintendo could announce? A Direct that consists only of announcements of multiplattform games also receiving a Wii U version would be kind of a strange thing. And new multiplat games would likely be announced somewhere else.
Wii U exclusives? Who would develop those and why? The small developers who are doing low budget console releases like Falcom, Gust etc have a fanbase that's traditionally more present on Sony plattforms, so there's not much reason why they would change tactics and develop for the Wii U instead. The bigger ones like Capcom, Konami, SE etc? Well, since these tend to make games with a bigger budget that are supposed to appeal to both Japanese and Western audiences, it wouldn't make all that much sense to develop those exclusively for the Wii U.
I'm already surprised that the 3DS is getting not as much support as one would expect. Big games are mostly in development by the usual suspects (Level-5, Capcom) -- if even the 3DS can't get as much attention as one would think, why would the Wii U fare any better?
Those numbers seem to be from NA alone tho, not counting EU.
Aaaanyway, poor WiiU this is going to get uglier real soon, ouch.
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (this week biggest release)
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/133019/
more releases for the week
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/133008/
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/133019/
more releases for the week
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/133008/
i can't wait for people to stop talking about it...
you shouldn't let that kind of thing bother you.
Candidates for March Prediction:
PSV Hardware
PS3/PSV One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2
PSP Shining Ark
PSP Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment
PS3 Shin Sangoku Musou 7
PS3 Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F
3DS Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission
PSP Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment
PSV Phantasy Star Online 2
3DS Osawari Tantei Nameko Shigeru
PS3 Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX
3DS Super Robot Taisen UX
3DS Layton Kyouju to Choubunmei A no Isan
PSV Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus: Otome Shoujotachi no Shoumei
PS3 Disgaea Dimension 2
3DS Luigi Mansion 2
PSV Soul Sacrifice
WIU Game & Wario
Choose your favorites (suggest something I forget) until tomorrow.
PSV Hardware
PS3/PSV One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2
PSP Shining Ark
PSP Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment
PS3 Shin Sangoku Musou 7
PS3 Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F
3DS Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission
PSP Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment
PSV Phantasy Star Online 2
3DS Osawari Tantei Nameko Shigeru
PS3 Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX
3DS Super Robot Taisen UX
3DS Layton Kyouju to Choubunmei A no Isan
PSV Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus: Otome Shoujotachi no Shoumei
PS3 Disgaea Dimension 2
3DS Luigi Mansion 2
PSV Soul Sacrifice
WIU Game & Wario
Choose your favorites (suggest something I forget) until tomorrow.
metalslimer
Member
Bolded.
Well he apparently put me on ignore just for making a Wii U sales prediction, so he probably shouldn't post in sales threads at all if you don't like having differing opinions.
For his own protection (from being banned), I agree. It's stuff like that builds until somebody explodes and gets the ban hammer. What he posted wasn't bad, but that's usually how it starts. You can't control other people on the internet (and even if you could, you shouldn't), so recognize that not everyone agrees and pick your battles very carefully.
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Shin Sangoku Musou 7
PSO2
metalslimer
Member
Haha yeah there's so many things this month, but I thought having like 10 would be too much? Also are people really expecting anything from Phantasy Star?
MasterSheen
Member
My picks. There's also Tales of Hearts R, but I think we have enough games already.
well i agree but i don't understand why the people provoking it get off scott free.
Okay so unless I missed something when skimming the 3DS thread, there were zero new game announcements at the Direct.
Despite this, could Road's prediction still be right?
Well, it might not be too far off.
Several of the listed studios don't exist as independent entities at all. They listed Grasshopper and GungHo, D3 and Namco, LucasArts and Disney.
I don't think Genki makes games anymore.
Nice find. It also looks like they mentioned many Sony studios. Is that the norm? Can´t remember MS/Nintendo mentioning every single of their dev studios, just Nintendo and MS...