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Media Create Sales: Week 8, 2013 (Feb 18 - Feb 24)

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Road

Member
Alrus said:
Don't these always get leaked by some other sites anyway?
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Yes, someone in Japan people usually buys them and post only the top 1000 new sales on their website. There's more stuff in it, but the top 1000 is what most people are interested in, I think.

Hence, I don't think anyone on GAF at least has ever bought them new for the full price. But you never know...
 
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deviljho

Member
The old guy in the grey sweater in the middle... is dying to get his hands on the booby-harassment game.

Elios83 said:
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saichi

Member
Untalkative_Bunny said:
I think it did OK until the price cut boosted sales. It's not like it ever wii u'ed.
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Untalkative_Bunny said:
meh. enough people still bought it, and many more still wanted it which allowed it to recover and do fine. And it never did badly enough that 3rd parties abandoned ship. So yeah, it did ok.
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L Thammy said:
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All charts launch-aligned.
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I guess Wii U is doing better than ok then as long as it stays ahead of PS3.
 
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airmangataosenai

Member
schuelma said:
I'll predict 80k or so. Seems right.
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That seems ridiculously high to me. Before the lines I would've placed 55k as my high-end estimate though, who knows for sure. If it really could reach sales like that before Soul Survivor then that puts them in a very healthy position from March forward.
 
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metalslimer

Member
airmangataosenai said:
That seems ridiculously high to me. Before the lines I would've placed 55k as my high-end estimate though, who knows for sure. If it really could reach sales like that before Soul Survivor then that puts them in a very healthy position from March forward.
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No, it doesn't because the lineup past March is abysmal. They're in a worsened position of what I think Nintendo will face because there is going to be another huge drought after these games release. And what games are going to come out of this? If developers already abandoned the platform and March is the best Sony has to off the system will crash right back below 15k for the forseeable future. Of course it might be able to keep a baseline above 10k which is improvement I guess. Systems in Japan don't magically sell for months without any games.

Past March these are the games that have a shot of going over 100k on Vita

God Eater 2 PSP/PSV
FFX HD PS3/PSV

And looking at these few months lineup this was not a quickly scheduled thing
Senran Kagura was announced before TGS
Phantasy Star Online 2 was announced way back in the first Vita Heaven
Tales of Hearts was announced back in October
Soul Sacrifice was announced Last May

Going by the time it took to announce this lineup of games we could see a huge drought for Vita all the way until Fall
 
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frankie_baby

Member
airmangataosenai said:
That seems ridiculously high to me. Before the lines I would've placed 55k as my high-end estimate though, who knows for sure. If it really could reach sales like that before Soul Survivor then that puts them in a very healthy position from March forward.
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dont forget the lines may not just be for vita hw, there's several software releases some of which may be in short supply
 
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airmangataosenai

Member
metalslimer said:
Past March these are the games that have a shot of going over 100k on Vita

God Eater 2 PSP/PSV
FFX HD PS3/PSV
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Valhalla Knights?
Zero no Kiseki?
Gundam Breaker?
Project Versus J?
Toukiden?

Yes a lot of the games are multiplatform but I'd say that most of these are strong enough sellers to probably post good numbers so it's possible to reach above the 100k goal.
 
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distantmantra

Member
airmangataosenai said:
Valhalla Knights?
Zero no Kiseki?
Gundam Breaker?
Project Versus J?
Toukiden?

Yes a lot of the games are multiplatform but I'd say that most of these are strong enough sellers to probably post good numbers so it's possible to reach above the 100k goal.
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I see the majority of Gundam Breaker's sales coming from the PS3 version.
 
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metalslimer

Member
airmangataosenai said:
Valhalla Knights?
Zero no Kiseki?
Gundam Breaker?
Project Versus J?
Toukiden?

Yes a lot of the games are multiplatform but I'd say that most of these are strong enough sellers to probably post good numbers so it's possible to reach above the 100k goal.
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We'll see. A lineup based off of games find on other more popular platforms is never one to bank on for sustaining sales.
 
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JoshuaJSlone

Member
Magic Ovaries said:
So this company stops releasing games for Wii about three years into its life.
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They were still averaging nearly a game a month in 2010 and 2011.
shinra-bansho said:
Is there a reason why 3D Mario is being held up as a future champion of the system?

I was under the impression that 2D Mario was much more popular in Japan and there's already one of those on the system.
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Everything's smaller than 2D Mario, but that doesn't mean everything else is worthless. There's also a greater chance the next 3D Mario will have something novel and attention-getting than the 4th NSMB game.
deviljho said:
Does Lego City Undercover has a Japanese release date?
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Worth noting: I only see one LEGO game in Garaph, PS2 LEGO Star Wars which sold 6K its first week and made it to 20K 5-6 months later.
ramparter said:
OMG I hadnt noticed 3DS had surpassed 10M in Japan, it's closing on the Wii. Fastest selling hardware to date in the region?
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It's no DS, but beating the rest.
Wii
 
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metalslimer

Member
electroplankton said:
Still :p
And again, they were coming after we all knew something about a possible undershipment.
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Possible undershipment. Some of the extreme lows on the chart don't make sense, but most people made reasonable guesses about the info they had at the time. Also the game apparently had fantastic word of mouth which no one could factor in by not having a chance to play it.
 
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Father_Brain

Banned
metalslimer said:
No, it doesn't because the lineup past March is abysmal. They're in a worsened position of what I think Nintendo will face because there is going to be another huge drought after these games release. And what games are going to come out of this? If developers already abandoned the platform and March is the best Sony has to off the system will crash right back below 15k for the forseeable future. Of course it might be able to keep a baseline above 10k which is improvement I guess.
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Looking at the current lineup, I'd expect it to fall below 15K by the end of next month and below 10K by mid-April.
 
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saichi

Member
airmangataosenai said:
Valhalla Knights?
Zero no Kiseki?
Gundam Breaker?
Project Versus J?
Toukiden?

Yes a lot of the games are multiplatform but I'd say that most of these are strong enough sellers to probably post good numbers so it's possible to reach above the 100k goal.
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not sure if you are serious.
 
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kswiston

Member
Spiegel said:
That bump is too high. I was thinking Famitsu Top 500 update but is still too high.

Maybe Pokemon is being counted?
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If that is the Week of Dec 25th, 2006, DQ Joker + Famitsu Top 500 adjustment could explain the bump. It's even more plausible if the weeks of Dec 25th and Jan 1st were grouped together.
 
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eighty(one)

Member
Principate said:
TBF the Vita hasn't stablised at all, 35k isn't a hint towarss stablization. They both most probably on a down trend how far it goes nobdy knows.
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I disagree.

I don't analyze the JP market as thoroughly as many members here, but I see WiiU problems ahead.

Gamers globally, have been hankering for a new generation. Sales of current generation hardware has been diminishing annually, as many have been waiting out for the next gen.

I know the WiiU is more promising in its architecture than either current HD system, but right now - it's lacking in tech and games. Which brings me back to the opening statement, in which many probably see the WiiU as a stopgap console. With so much attention focused on the upcoming systems (a general desire for them is palpable), I don't think many gamers want to shell out close to what a PS4 system will cost (3/4) - to be behind the curve again (emphasis on again), especially people who had a Wii.

I also feel that PSV will see a slow, but steady ascension in the charts. If my hunch is correct, that a desire for PS4 is palpable on JP - a true next gen system - you'll begin to see people picking up a Vita, if they plan to follow Sonys system.
My basis/the reason for steady Vita ascension, is not hinged as much on the games, as much as it is on Sony delivering remote play on all (except camera) PS4 titles. If JP is as hungry for next gen as we are, and they also seem to be portable enthusiasts - they are going to start prep with a Vita to have the best of both worlds, If Sony delivers on their remote play directive.

I don't think the logic is flawed.

I'll break it down: Wii U is too similar to a generation we are moving beyond. Gamers everywhere know this. Wii was behind in tech: fool me once, but not twice. They are going to adopt PS4, as evidenced by stalled WiiU numbers - especially now that its a known entity with detailed plans. Leads to Vita:
You'll begin to see it steadily rise for remote play reasons, as PS4 launch ramps closer to release.

3DS will be the key Nintendo system, rightfully so - as it's the best, serviceable option for their own and third party software. It's about being acceptably powered, and (many) Nintendo fans (including myself) are content to just own that.

Apologies for scattershot delivery of what I'm trying to say: on my iphone, and second day of quitting smoking.

I'm not trying to knock Nintendo and praise Sony.
 
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Zoramon089

Banned
eighty(one) said:
I'll break it down: Wii U is too similar to a generation we are moving beyond. Gamers everywhere know this. Wii was behind in tech: fool me once, but not twice. They are going to adopt PS4, as evidenced by stalled WiiU numbers - especially now that its a known entity with detailed plans. Leads to Vita:
You'll begin to see it steadily rise for remote play reasons, as PS4 launch ramps closer to release.
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The WiiU stall has NOTHING to do with the PS4 and everything to do with its lack of games. If the majority of its games are simply current gen ports with minimal changes of course people are going to consider it a stopgap. That mentality won't change until we get some unique titles, basically the 3rd party exclusives/collabs and Nintendo's 1st party efforts.

Also, remote play won't be nearly as popular as people are making it out to be. Sony has a bad habit of assuming consumers are willing to spend tons of money on electronics with a single purpose just because they have the name Sony on it. Buying a handheld just for remote play makes no sense when people aren't even willing to buy a mem card for said handheld. Sony needs to stop trying to push their proprietary tech on everyone. Just because Apple can get away with it doesn't mean they can. The PS4 is a step in the right direction though but remote play is being WAY overblown. It's a cool idea but not one I think with really result in much change for the Vita
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
eighty(one) said:
I disagree.

I don't analyze the JP market as thoroughly as many members here, but I see WiiU problems ahead.

Gamers globally, have been hankering for a new generation. Sales of current generation hardware has been diminishing annually, as many have been waiting out for the next gen.

I know the WiiU is more promising in its architecture than either current HD system, but right now - it's lacking in tech and games. Which brings me back to the opening statement, in which many probably see the WiiU as a stopgap console. With so much attention focused on the upcoming systems (a general desire for them is palpable), I don't think many gamers want to shell out close to what a PS4 system will cost (3/4) - to be behind the curve again (emphasis on again), especially people who had a Wii.

I also feel that PSV will see a slow, but steady ascension in the charts. If my hunch is correct, that a desire for PS4 is palpable on JP - a true next gen system - you'll begin to see people picking up a Vita, if they plan to follow Sonys system.
My basis/the reason for steady Vita ascension, is not hinged as much on the games, as much as it is on Sony delivering remote play on all (except camera) PS4 titles. If JP is as hungry for next gen as we are, and they also seem to be portable enthusiasts - they are going to start prep with a Vita to have the best of both worlds, If Sony delivers on their remote play directive.

I don't think the logic is flawed.

I'll break it down: Wii U is too similar to a generation we are moving beyond. Gamers everywhere know this. Wii was behind in tech: fool me once, but not twice. They are going to adopt PS4, as evidenced by stalled WiiU numbers - especially now that its a known entity with detailed plans. Leads to Vita:
You'll begin to see it steadily rise for remote play reasons, as PS4 launch ramps closer to release.

3DS will be the key Nintendo system, rightfully so - as it's the best, serviceable option for their own and third party software. It's about being acceptably powered, and (many) Nintendo fans (including myself) are content to just own that.
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Based on Japan's embrace of 3DS and very slow adoption of PS3, I think your analysis on a huge desire for PS4 in Japan is pretty tenuous.
 
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eighty(one)

Member
Zoramon089 said:
The WiiU stall has NOTHING to do with the PS4 and everything to do with its lack of games. If the majority of its games are simply current gen ports with minimal changes of course people are going to consider it a stopgap. That mentality won't change until we get some unique titles, basically the 3rd party exclusives/collabs and Nintendo's 1st party efforts.

Also, remote play won't be nearly as popular as people are making it out to be. Sony has a bad habit of assuming consumers are willing to spend tons of money on electronics with a single purpose just because they have the name Sony on it. Buying a handheld just for remote play makes no sense when people aren't even willing to buy a mem card for said handheld. Sony needs to stop trying to push their proprietary tech on everyone. Just because Apple can get away with it doesn't mean they can. The PS4 is a step in the right direction though but remote play is being WAY overblown. It's a cool idea but not one I think with really result in much change for the Vita
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I forgot to add, but was going to:

A lot of this gens HD and majority of console AAA third party games were PS3/360. They simply weren't on Wii. Which to me says, that subset of gamer isn't going to bet on WiiU, either. The possibility of playing those upcoming PS4 home console games, over wifi - anywhere - is a selling point. That was also best of both reasoning, they can play their home console games anywhere (on their portable) if they have a PSV and PS4.
This won't sell Vitas through the roof, but it will sell Vitas - to people who wanted one and want PS4 and like portables (JP likes portables and Sony home consoles).
 
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Father_Brain

Banned
eighty(one) said:
My basis/the reason for steady Vita ascension, is not hinged as much on the games, as much as it is on Sony delivering remote play on all (except camera) PS4 titles. If JP is as hungry for next gen as we are, and they also seem to be portable enthusiasts - they are going to start prep with a Vita to have the best of both worlds, If Sony delivers on their remote play directive.

I don't think the logic is flawed.
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Well, a major flaw in your logic is that you overlook the inherent limitations of PS4 cloud play: namely, that it requires remaining in physical range of a high-bandwidth, low-latency wi-fi connection, which significantly diminishes the "portable" part of the phrase "portable gaming."

Even if it works well, it's a nice value add for those who own both systems, nothing more.
 
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Gianni Merryman

Member
Spiegel said:
Ah, yes. 2 weeks together + DQJoker + Top 500 make sense
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Speaking of Joker, does anyone else reckon a DQJ3 on 3DS should be expected soon, what with DQVII being so successful?
Maybe after Pokemon, in 2014 perhaps, would the timing of it be right?

I understand Joker games take a lower budget than main series to be made, so the ones for DS have been essentially a cash-in - incidentally I played the second one recently and I must say I enjoyed it very much, despite the grinding.
 
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electroplankton

Banned
Gianni Merryman said:
Speaking of Joker, does anyone else reckon a DQJ3 on 3DS should be expected soon, what with DQVII being so successful?
Maybe after Pokemon, in 2014 perhaps, would the timing of it be right?

I understand Joker games take a lower budget than main series to be made, so the ones for DS have been essentially a cash-in - incidentally I played the second one recently and I must say I enjoyed it very much, despite the grinding.
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A new DQM should be on lock now, but they may try to create something new.
 
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