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And here we go with the vicious cycle.
We'll see how Most Wanted does, but even that's a late port.
It seems like it's gonna be a long-ass time before development cycles reach a point where they can actually launch a game simultaneously on Wii U and other platforms. That might not start to happen until this fall.
There's enough for CoD to sell decent.
It's a tough rumour to debunk because it's so bloody believable.
That's what we're all thinking Western third party developers are thinking about Nintendo, right?
There's enough for CoD to sell decent.
Nintendo fans buy nintendo consoles to get away from Call of duty. I thought that was obvious.
I might have bought it if it was cheaper or even on the eShop..
Nintendo's persistent problem -- across generations -- is a demographic problem.
Look at the games that make the big four publisher's bread and butter on consoles:
Madden
Fifa
Need for Speed
Battlefield
Call of Duty
Skylanders
Assassin's Creed
Just Dance
Grand Theft Auto
Red Dead Redemption
Outside of Skylanders and JustDance (Which, by the way, sold best on Wii), all of those games have a laserlike focus on the 16-35 male demographic. I'm not saying that Nintendo has no interest in that demographic; but they are also concerned with drawing in women, the elderly, and children.
As such, 100 million Nintendo consoles sold may only mean 30 million 16-35 year old gamers, while 100 million Playstations sold is probably closer to 70 million. That is the key, persistent problem for Nintendo. Their demographic focus is simply different than all four of the big publishers, who are much more aligned with the demographic Sony and Microsoft are after.
Now add to that general problem another problem specific to this generation; install base. Not only do Nintendo's systems generally sell less software focused on 16-35 year olds, but a low install base only exacerbates this problem for third parties.
Theoretically you could say that's a problem with publishers more than a problem with Nintendo, but that depends on perspective I guess. The flim industry is the only other one I can think of where all the big bucks are spent on the 16-35 male demographic, and to my understanding that's very much an American thing.
If Nintendo sold primarly to the 16-35 male demographic which comprises something like 80% of CoD's buyers, I might agree.
But Nintendo systems don't. Nintendo is very open about their desire to sell systems to children, to women, to the elderly and not just young adult males. That means that 2M Wii Us sold will provide far fewer CoD sales than, say, 2M PS4s sold, as Sony's systems tend to skew significantly more towards that 16-35 male demographic.
Does he have less credit than you?
People are taking this source seriously. You really should not, unless you are completely unskeptical or are already looking to kick the Wii U and use this as justification to do so.
Did this cause his ban?
Also developers need to work with Nintendo to release their games at the right time so it doesn't mess with Nintendo's IPs. No other first party has the same amount of stellar first party titles
The only reason publishers are still going to bring games to Wii U is because they dont want to damage their relationship with Nintendo.
This has nothing to do with Nintendo, this has to do with the fans of COD not wanting to accept that the Wii U version is the best and Activision not making that clear.
Also developers need to work with Nintendo to release their games at the right time so it doesn't mess with Nintendo's IPs. No other first party has the same amount of stellar first party titles
This is slightly off topic but how would you even go finding this article? I can't find anything else he has written and his twitter is suspended. Where would something like this appear for the OP to see it?
This has nothing to do with Nintendo, this has to do with the fans of COD not wanting to accept that the Wii U version is the best and Activision not making that clear.
Also developers need to work with Nintendo to release their games at the right time so it doesn't mess with Nintendo's IPs. No other first party has the same amount of stellar first party titles
It's most likely completely fake.
It's most likely completely fake.
People aren't buying Nintendo systems for third party games, but mostly Nintendo games. The sales of fairly to very well known franchises such as Tekken Tag 2, Ninja Gaiden 3:RE, Assassin's Creed 3, Mass Effect 3, Madden 13, NBA2K13 and other third party games make you wonder.
Yes, but how did the OP find this fake thing? There's no other article to be found by this guy. Are you saying he wrote it himself after reading the DICE topic that was on GAF recently?? I guess when you have Wordpress articles then that's a possibility.
People aren't buying Nintendo systems for third party games, but mostly Nintendo games. The sales of fairly to very well known franchises such as Tekken Tag 2, Ninja Gaiden 3:RE, Assassin's Creed 3, Mass Effect 3, Madden 13, NBA2K13 and other third party games make you wonder.
It a sad state of affairs when something like this doesn't scream fake right off the bat.It's most likely completely fake.
Activision should think about putting it on the eShop for the long term being one of the missing from all the launch titles was a stupid move its not like it costs them anything to put it there
Maybe it's profit-sharing issue? I can't imagine there being any other hurdles besides one having to do with money.I don't understand why it isn't on the Wii U eShop. It's on PSN and the Xbox 360 marketplace. Same thing with Mass Effect 3. It should be on the eShop as well. Just about all the other launch games and post-launch day games are.
Should the onus not be on Nintendo here, given they are the ones trying to make the platform more attractive for publishers and developers?
It's probably been mentioned, but didn't the Wii CoD games sell decently? It's more a case of userbase, launching the console late and launching this version after others.
Userbase is the biggest one I think, since many would rather play with their mates on the PS3 or 360.
Should the onus not be on Nintendo here, given they are the ones trying to make the platform more attractive for publishers and developers?
People are taking this source seriously. You really should not, unless you are completely unskeptical or are already looking to kick the Wii U and use this as justification to do so.
Then how would you explain the sales of games like Guitar Hero, Just Dance, Sonic games (basically all of them), Lego games (again, basically all of them), Zumba Fitness and Rayman, which all sold best on Wii?
Here's what I would propose: some types of third party games sell better on Nintendo systems. Games that are more family oriented, platformers, things which appeal to women and children and the elderly.
The problem, then, isn't that third party games don't sell on Nintendo systems, generally. The problem is that the vast majority of "well known franchises," as you put it, are focused on the 16-35 male demographic. Certainly all the ones you just listed are. Fifa is. Need for Speed is. Call of Duty is. Shooters, sports games, fighting games, these are all going to focus very heavily on young adult males.
That is Nintendo's chief problem at selling third party software. The problem is that almost all of third parties focus on 16-35 male demo, which is what PS3 and 360 excel at particularly. If you make a game for any other demographic, it not only can but frequently does sell better on Wii or DS or 3DS or what have you. There is just a paucity of console developers who make those sorts of games, as virtually every developer working for the four big publishers are focusing pretty heavily on the 16-35 male demo.
You know all those cool Wii exclusives that were actually good games? Muramasa the Demon Blade, Little King's Story, Red Steel II, and lots more?
In point of fact, there was always a good following for Call of Duty on Wii thanks to later versions being quite good + IR aiming control options.
This is slightly off topic but how would you even go finding this article? I can't find anything else he has written and his twitter is suspended. Where would something like this appear for the OP to see it?
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