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Platinum Games: "Would have to see demand" for MG:Revengeance Wii U port

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Terrell the objective evidence is in the fact you admit to buying games "just because they were on the Wii" and providing a list of games you would purchase if you could have, half of which are in a genre woefully unrepresented on said platform. I'm not saying you don't buy Nintendo platforms for Nintendo games, I'm saying you're in a poor position to judge what else you might have chosen to play on a HD platform instead, because you didn't even give them a chance.

So in light of the cognitive dissonance you display I don't see much point in discussing this any further. As bewildering as I find your position to be it is, as you say, a moot point. Konami and Platinum were never going to get your custom either way.
 

Terrell

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Terrell the objective evidence is in the fact you admit to buying games "just because they were on the Wii" and providing a list of games you would purchase if you could have, half of which are in a genre woefully unrepresented on said platform. I'm not saying you don't buy Nintendo platforms for Nintendo games, I'm saying you're in a poor position to judge what else you might have chosen to play on a HD platform instead, because you didn't even give them a chance.

So in light of the cognitive dissonance you display I don't see much point in discussing this any further. As bewildering as I find your position to be it is, as you say, a moot point. Konami and Platinum were never going to get your custom either way.

I admit to buying around 5 games, yes. And they stayed in my library because I was happy with them. I would have sold them otherwise.

If I gave everything a chance to entertain me on my own dime, I'd be on the street tomorrow with an empty wallet, because there's a LOT of entertainment out there. I have played a large chunk of the PS3 library from swapping consoles off and on with a friend, and my takeaway remains the same. The simple fact is that you have to draw a line, where entertainment consumption is enough to be satisfactory based on your desired forms of entertainment.

I love watching anime, for instance, but as a viewer, it was something I could no longer afford in large quantity because it was priced well outside feasibility when placed alongside my already expensive video game purchases. I was forced to choose one over the other in terms of greater rate of consumption. In this situation, there is no platform wall, so to speak, but there's a lot of anime that I will never ever watch, despite the fact that I'd probably really enjoy it. And there are a lot of factors as to why... money, time spent, lacking digital distribution options (I'm almost out of shelf space for new DVDs), etc.

To imply that I'm being delusional, hypocritical or whatever else it is you're implying exactly simply because I didn't let the hobby consume the entirety of my paycheque or free time to slake my every potential thirst is absurd.

And that's the crux of your argument on this matter: POTENTIALITY. But the kicker is that I've seen a great big chunk of that potential, from someone else's game catalog, demos and rentals of items that I thought may be of interest to me, thankfully without having to shell out top dollar, too. And I'm still going to pass on a lot of it and lament the stuff I can't justify the expense of. And you can preach on about how I'm deluding myself all you wish, as you have already implied several times that I am. You'll need to bring more than a gut feeling that I'm being disingenuous to the discussion or at least an understanding that not everyone here on NeoGAF is the hardest of hardcore that can't restrain themselves from being entertained when other factors are in play.
 

Trike

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Cold hard truth. Revengeance won't be a top seller even on PS360, there's not much demand for action games (see: DmC bombing) and it doesn't have insane graphics or anything else that can attract the casual crowd, aside from the Metal Gear name.

That is not the cold hard truth, it is a weird comparison. Yes, CoD usually sells crazy amounts. But there was no install base yet for the Wii U. It sold to what was basically a fraction of the CoD crowd on the Wii that happened to get a Wii U. I am willing to guess that the vast majority of fans who has a Wii U and a 360/PS3 did not get it on the Wii U. They have friends who play the game on their respective console, and they know there will be a larger amount of players. That is not even mentioning that Metal Gear fans and CoD fans are not a 1:1 ratio. Two completely different series.

And your DmC comparison is puzzling. No demand for action games because of DmC bombing? That couldn't possibly be because of Capcom insulting their fans with the reboot and splitting the install base, could it? The game is about a cyborg ninja murdering people and eating their spinal juices, while cutting everything he can with some sort of super katana. No, the graphics are not mindblowing, but I am sure there are a few things that new players will find interesting.

how is bayonetta number on PS360 ,Mad world number on Wii?

I think Bayonetta hit like a million worldwide. Can't really find much on Madworld, Wikipedia says around 125k in North America. But a more apt comparison would be Madworld to Anarchy Reigns. I can't find any reliable sales data on it, but it doesn't look like it is doing very well.
 
I think a Wii U port of MGRR would be pretty awesome if they don't force tablet support. It would actually be pretty fun cutting up foes with the Wii mote for short periods of time. I'd buy it again... at a budget price.

Now that I think about it, I would rather just have Move support for the PS3 version...
 

Neiteio

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MGRR is one of my favorite games EVER. It's, like, a human rights violation for it not to be on the WiiU. But I won't call the U.N. just yet. Platinum can still release an "Uncut Edition" that has the Sam and Wolf DLC, plus the extra VR missions and preorder items, on disk from the start. Sell it on WiU and PC, and everyone is happy!
 

The Hermit

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I think a Wii U port of MGRR would be pretty awesome if they don't force tablet support. It would actually be pretty fun cutting up foes with the Wii mote for short periods of time. I'd buy it again... at a budget price.

Now that I think about it, I would rather just have Move support for the PS3 version...

Hey nice bump dude.



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EDIT: your not helping Neiteio!! :mad:
 

Trike

Member
MGRR is one of my favorite games EVER. It's, like, a human rights violation for it not to be on the WiiU. But I won't call the U.N. just yet. Platinum can still release an "Uncut Edition" that has the Sam and Wolf DLC, plus the extra VR missions and preorder items, on disk from the start. Sell it on WiU and PC, and everyone is happy!

Uh, I think "uncut" edition would be a terrible name for it.

1. It is about cutting.
2. It is not about uncircumcised penises.
 

EDarkness

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I think a Wii U port of MGRR would be pretty awesome if they don't force tablet support. It would actually be pretty fun cutting up foes with the Wii mote for short periods of time. I'd buy it again... at a budget price.

Now that I think about it, I would rather just have Move support for the PS3 version...

If they released this game with Wii remote support, then I would be there day one.
 

BD1

Banned
Ugh, I got excited for a minute when I saw this bumped. Maybe if it gets a second run edition, Wii U will be included. Although late ports are probably not something Nintendo is interested in right now.
 

JPKellams

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Unfortunately it's not a PG's game. It's Konami's, and we know how they roll. :(

Which is what I said in the original tweet, and then in the tweets linked at the bottom of the link in the OP (https://twitter.com/PG_jp/status/297935558867566593). It's Konami's to decide what to do with.

Of course, I long since gave up hope that reading comprehension would inform how people consume written content on the internet. People think that as the developer we do every single thing in the supply chain like some sort of vertically integrated conglomerate. I swear, some people probably think we have a brigade of trained hamsters who chisel the pits into the game discs with their teeth. ;)

EDIT: Also - love how the thread title makes it sound like some official company statement. See, everyone, corporations are really people!
 

seady

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If it takes them till the end of the year for a port to happen, then just forget it. People would have moved on by then, and konami would just say the Wii U can't sell games when no one buys it.
 
OT But this is times where i kinda miss Yamauchi. Imagine Yamauchi hearing this kind of message ("Yeah we are making W101 and Bayonetta 2 but MGSR? no demand"). He would probably cut ties with Platinum just for the sake of it.

You dont f with this guy

hiroshi-yamauchi.jpg

That's because Yamauchi was the real deal. Iwata has no clue how to run a company.
 

Neiteio

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I swear, some people probably think we have a brigade of trained hamsters who chisel the pits into the game discs with their teeth. ;)
You... you don't? :O

For my part, I know you guys don't make that decision. That would be the publisher holding the purse strings, Konami.

I do think that if Konami decided to greenlight a PC/WiiU version, it would be cool for them to have Platinum make it as an all-in-one "complete edition."

But yeah, it's Konami's
codec
call.
 
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Retro_

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Uh, I think "uncut" edition would be a terrible name for it.

1. It is about cutting.
2. It is not about uncircumcised penises.

You bumped this thread for this?

and it should be recut btw.
 

Neiteio

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You bumped this thread for this?
The thread was actually bumped by SlaughterX, who wrote:

SlaughterX said:
I think a Wii U port of MGRR would be pretty awesome if they don't force tablet support. It would actually be pretty fun cutting up foes with the Wii mote for short periods of time. I'd buy it again... at a budget price.

Now that I think about it, I would rather just have Move support for the PS3 version...
Regardless, the thread is obviously about whether it should happen now that MGRR is out and a fully known property on other systems.

If an actual port to WiiU/PC were announced, that would be new news and would be the foundation of a new thread.

Retro_ said:
And everyone knows they'd go with "Recut"
Ooo, good idea!
 

Broken Logic

Neo Member
I wish they'd stop asking for interest in games that are already out and rather for interest with games that will come out. I don't like that we should need to show interest for late ports.
 
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Retro_

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I wish they'd stop asking for interest in games that are already out and rather for interest with games that will come out. I don't like that we should need to show interest for late ports.

The only person asking anything is the guy PGJP responded to in the tweet in the OP.

He asked what are the chances of a wii-u port, and PGJP gave him a truthful answer.

Not an official statement in any form, just responding to a question on twitter.

cue neogaf reading into hidden meanings behind that exchange for 8 pages

 
Which is what I said in the original tweet, and then in the tweets linked at the bottom of the link in the OP (https://twitter.com/PG_jp/status/297935558867566593). It's Konami's to decide what to do with.

Of course, I long since gave up hope that reading comprehension would inform how people consume written content on the internet. People think that as the developer we do every single thing in the supply chain like some sort of vertically integrated conglomerate. I swear, some people probably think we have a brigade of trained hamsters who chisel the pits into the game discs with their teeth. ;)

EDIT: Also - love how the thread title makes it sound like some official company statement. See, everyone, corporations are really people!
Just throwing this out there: I'd love to get more info about The Wonderful 101 from PG in the near future.
 

farnham

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If it was going to happen Nintendo needed to convince konami a year ago and it needed to be out by now. Now as it stands its just not going to happen especially with how kojima views nintendo platforms in general.
Just throwing this out there: I'd love to get more info about The Wonderful 101 from PG in the near future.

Hint: its not going to sell so its probably a low priority game thats going to be shat out (see aliens colonial marines)
 

ahm998

Member
I think this game will blow my gamepad very soon in next nintendo direct.

With exclusive content & Wiimote plus enable.

My body ready to next nintendo direct :p
 

farnham

Banned
Your breath smells like an asshole when you talk.

Hmm think about it. Platinum is making one game in the vein as this one for wiiu and another one that may interest the same audience too. However they are utterly apathetic about wiiu getting a port. It seems to me that either they have not invested much in the platform at all. Or they are just paid the dev costs and a fixed amount and dont get a cut for the sales. Either way it seems kinda strange how uninterested they seem to be regarding the wiiu as a platform when two games are supposedly exclusive for it (another possibility is of course a sigma release two month after the original games bombing hard)
 
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Retro_

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Hmm think about it. Platinum is making one game in the vein as this one for wiiu and another one that may interest the same audience too. However they are utterly apathetic about wiiu getting a port. It seems to me that either they have not invested much in the platform at all. Or they are just paid the dev costs and a fixed amount and dont get a cut for the sales. Either way it seems kinda strange how uninterested they seem to be regarding the wiiu as a platform when two games are supposedly exclusive for it (another possibility is of course a sigma release two month after the original games bombing hard)

cue neogaf reading into hidden meanings behind that exchange for 8 pages

9 pages

Hint: its not going to sell so its probably a low priority game thats going to be shat out (see aliens colonial marines)

I'm not sure if you actually don't know what the situation surrounding that game is about, or if you're just trolling by comparing it 101
 

farnham

Banned
I'm not sure if you actually don't know what the situation surrounding that game is about, or if you're just trolling by comparing it 101

nintendo is paying platinum money to make a game for them and to finish a game that was abandoned by sega. Both titles are "supposedly" wiiu exclusive. You would think that platinum is interested in wiiu success. However the stance of platinum pretty apathetic towards wiiu. You may think they are not supporting the platform at all if you read some interviews of platinum regarding wiiu.
 

sonicmj1

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Hmm think about it. Platinum is making one game in the vein as this one for wiiu and another one that may interest the same audience too. However they are utterly apathetic about wiiu getting a port. It seems to me that either they have not invested much in the platform at all.

JP already laid things out pretty clearly, so I don't know why you're hunting for hidden meanings. It's not their choice whether MGR goes to the WiiU, the PC, or anywhere else. What do you want them to say?

Every Platinum game in development at this time is a WiiU exclusive, so I don't know how you can say they aren't invested in the platform. Nintendo will decide how much marketing push any individual game receives.
 

Margalis

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In this thread: people repeatedly and willfully refuse to understand the difference between developers and publishers.

This thread is embarrassingly dumb.
 
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