Crimson_Gold
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this makes me both excited and jealous.
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The Last Of Us - Off screen footage from PAX East
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this makes me both excited and jealous.
About the game's existence or just the multiplayer's?
Raitosaito
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uncharted86
Member
Great to hear!
So that's what, 3 or 4 impressions in this thread from people actually attending the event and playing the demo? And all of them came away very excited.
And all the negativity in this thread are all from people without any hands-on with the game
I don't know! My guess is they tried every thing (these are game designers after all) and picked the best option while keeping mind of both enemy and companion AI. The focus also seems to be melee combat, so when confronting both clickers and runners they probably ran into some trouble and made it unnecessarily hard in a way that was not fun. Just my two cents...Interesting argument though.
Is that so? If that is the conclusion, that means that when doing a hands-on event you better have an official playthrough of the demo available on YouTube by the developers to make the game look as good as possible.Great to hear!
So that's what, 3 or 4 impressions in this thread from people actually attending the event and playing the demo? And all of them came away very excited.
And all the negativity in this thread are all from people without any hands-on with the game
I don't think it's wrong with being critical of games. In a pre-release scenario you just have to take the available information and hope for the best.
And if someone is really concerned they just wait until 3 days after launch and decide then if the game is worth their time and money.
Edit: Those concerns surely can be raised, as long as they aren't ill-informed.
I just started playing Absolution yesterday and the Instinct mode is the worst of these aid modes I've ever used. I usually avoid them or use them only when necessary but that one is so linked to the game design that it pretty much mandates you to use it. All devs need to use that as an example of what not to do. I have trust that ND can pull it off well and I play using the PS3 Stereo Headset so I'm not worried about it ruining the game.
oh snap
uncharted86
Member
Sorry, was that directed at what I concluded, or at what has been going on in this thread based on the videos in the OP?
Because I have not watched them and do not want to either
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
It's pretty crazy to read Arne say they didn't pull any tricks for the TLoU demos.
Not because ND is a developer that deserves heightened skepticism, but because some of the stuff from the walkthroughs (specifically E3 stuff) is verging on otherworldly.
Yeah, they make pretty (and fun) games and are quite known for pushing limits, but the most impressive aspects of those demos wasn't shiny graphics, it was the seemingly complex AI and all the seamless contextual animation. The flow of combat. That's the kind of stuff that was, imo, a little suspect, not because ND are suspect, but because wtf man that shit it pretty far beyond what we've been seeing this gen or ever.
Not because ND is a developer that deserves heightened skepticism, but because some of the stuff from the walkthroughs (specifically E3 stuff) is verging on otherworldly.
Yeah, they make pretty (and fun) games and are quite known for pushing limits, but the most impressive aspects of those demos wasn't shiny graphics, it was the seemingly complex AI and all the seamless contextual animation. The flow of combat. That's the kind of stuff that was, imo, a little suspect, not because ND are suspect, but because wtf man that shit it pretty far beyond what we've been seeing this gen or ever.
Both. I didn't read the beginning of this thread because it was about the listen-mode.Sorry, was that directed at what I concluded, or at what has been going on in this thread based on the videos in the OP?
Because I have not watched them and do not want to either
The impressions I've read by people that have played the game were indeed positive. I'm just not sure that I have read all of them.
GribbleGrunger
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TalesOfWin
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jacksepticeye
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My sentiments exactly
Eric Monacelli said in a interview that we will likely see a new demo.
I still think ND is using some smoke and mirrors. AI still has to follow a script. I still love everything they show and will be there day 1 but I can't see everything being seamless.
Elginer
Member
Not yet was the official answer by Arne on this very same page
Soon I hope. Soon. -_-
SniperHunter
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I think you guys need to play FEAR, the AI in that game was AMAZING and it was built around the environment. The human AI in Last of US, looks as good as the enemy AI in FEAR IMO
Raitosaito
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Even if all the systems are exactly the same as the demo when it's in our hands, it was played in a very specific way. I doubt everything we saw we will get that kind of perfect reaction by the AI or the combat system every time.
If they can make it feel that intense in combat (or at least most of the time) it will be a win in my book. There has never been a demo that has lived up the the vertical slice E3 demos for me so my bar isn't set super high.
If it's not the E3 demo then I won't be playing it. I'm on an incredibly strict blackout for this.
The game has been in development for a year and a half longer than ND's ever worked on a single game. I expect it the AI to impress if it's been a primary focus the whole time.
CriterionDog
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oh my!
WeAreStarStuff
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I've been on a media blackout for this, but all of the cynical GAF
postings made me check out the video. Game looks FANTASTIC. Can't wait; not going to look at anything else. Keep it up Naughty Goods.
postings made me check out the video. Game looks FANTASTIC. Can't wait; not going to look at anything else. Keep it up Naughty Goods.
Wait what? Arne's alternate account is natedrake?
Pachterballs
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Can't read this thread as I want to media blackout but I gotta say, I have god of war ascension and I probably won't be playing TLOU early beta.
It's a joke. He has several alternative accounts. The latest one is robotrock.
He is trying to fool us all, but the dead giveaway are that they all share the positive impressions.
I'm assuming it's a joke. Looking back through NateDrake's history, I would be really surprised if it was Arne.
Your post confuses me even more. I wasn't aware that having alternate accounts were allowed.
I'm thinking that as well.
What else do you think Community Strategists do at developers?
They all sign up to the various forums on the Internet and post positive impressions about the games they are releasing in the near future.
And he would've gotten away with it too if only he hadn't used the character from their PS3 game series as one of the fake accounts.
Now the house of cards of fake accounts and fake impressions is collapsing all around him.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
This is where language and tech jargon can get muddled up and really make a mess of things... since all AI is "scripted" and technically it's all "smoke and mirrors"... we need to differentiate between terms better.
For example, I'm not quite sure what angle you're coming from... so it's hard to respond, agree, or disagree.
"Smoke and mirrors" the way I was using earlier, referred to any extra manipulation (for some desired/dramatic effect) beyond what the game is normally capable of. Beyond what a normal player, you or I, might encounter playing that sequence.
And "scripting" not in the technical sense... more literary... as in... how a play is scripted and actors play their pre-rehearsed parts.
So if ND had manipulated the encounter to always play out in a predetermined, desirable way, and maybe added a canned (only for this demo purpose) animation as a crescendo... I would say that is (at least to a degree) "scripted" and "smoke and mirrors".
It is what I'd suspected, since it seemed otherwise too good to be true. But Arne says nay, so... pretty cool. Assuming I'm correctly understanding what he said earlier. But maybe I'm not. Since, you know... the language is muddled. lol
Demo content TBD. Whatever the case, it will be from a much more current build.
lol, nicely done.
<3 you too
Not really not sure why people find that stuff funny.
Sho_Nuff82
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Looks like the game absolutely punishes you for trying to run and gun it when the "zombies" are around. This is good IMO.
toddhunter
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Problem is no matter what they do with MP, if it is behind an online pass I'll never really try it. This is so I'll have better resale value (due to no ps4 bc) Am I the only one like that?
I thought it was a shame because U2's online was surprisingly quite fun when I gave it a go.
Dev diary is from a more recent build than this demo.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Smashing! I've recently bought GOWA and finished it. I now want to sell it on ... can I still use the code for the demo of TLOU without the disc?
uncharted86
Member
The thing is though that U2 and U3 were released in Oct/Nov, so you can't really use that as any indication. I would have thought that they had showed it already, if I had made a guess a couple months back.
It's not a code, is it? The demo for TLoU is launched from within the main menu of GOW:A, at least in my region of the game.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Thanks. I'll probably skip the demo then because I want to get enough money together to buy Sly4.
overall, roughly more skewed towards encounters with survivors. this is a slippery slope though, no percentages or anything else. wait til more info or the game comes out.