or they think whatever they got under their sleeves is good enough to "endure" these times.
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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online
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or they think whatever they got under their sleeves is good enough to "endure" these times.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
I think they have far bigger problems than denying always online, mostly the announcement of the damn console! This would've never happened if they went full-on in Q1 2013.
Vire
Member
Why wouldn't Microsoft just come outright and say it then?
"If we were working a new console, it would not have always online requirements"
Squash that bug before it spreads to major media outlets and save face.
Hint:
Because it does have it
Miles Quaritch
Member
A non response. They needed to do more, a lot more to defuse this story.
Guess this all but confirms it, although it does leave room for the opposite to also be true.
Aquamarine
Member
It's happening. MS would have flatout denied it if nothing was happening.
Always online is happening.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Electricity!? oh the irony... food and energy? You're just being silly now.
I have a choice. I don't HAVE to pay £300 extra to play my games right now, in fact I've had my console for three years and only went online this year. This policy means you will HAVE to pay that £300 extra if you want to play ANY game.
Twilight Gap
Member
I love how they link to shinobi's user profile and the first thing you see is his avatar.
lol
welp, with the bane gif and the PR response, I think this thread has climaxed.
It's been fun gents. I would have slept the excitement off too were it not for this ridiculous lawn mower down the street.
I think Sweet Billy is starting being erased from the Earth. I don't know how much longer he'll last in our brains. Poor Sweet
...err...
...Guys, I have a problem: I don't remember what we were talking about a few seconds ago. Do you have the same problem too?
...err...
...Guys, I have a problem: I don't remember what we were talking about a few seconds ago. Do you have the same problem too?
I could've sworn the posts where people screenshotted him as logged in preceded the ones where people tweeted responses to his "challenge" back to him. But alas I am not detective GAF enough to prove this.I just had to ask:
freenudemacusers
Member
product roadmap is code for 'you are correct in your assumptions'
So fucking bad. "Sometimes the electricity goes out. I will not purchase a vacuum."
The vacuum ABSOLUTELY NEEDS electricity to run. If a vacuum could be made that easily didn't require electricity, then yes, you'd be a fucking fool to purchase a vacuum that needed electricity. That's not the case, and games don't NEED to be always online. What a dolt.
The phone analogy is just as bad. With a cell phone the connection IS THE SERVICE. With a video game, always on is a superfluous, tangential OPTION/RESTRICTION, that holds the potential to needlessly interrupt the service. Big difference.
ChosenPredator
Banned
to answer that is to confirm that the next xbox exist
What did you expect?
oh come on, now you're just TRYING to get people to think you're a brat.
Yeah. Agree.
Whiteshirt
Member
That's the problem. I don't see any reason for mandating always on. There are reasons to encourage consumers to stay online all the time (i.e. automatic patching, updates, downloading of interesting demos) but what reasons is there to force it besides piracy protection and feeding people targeted advertisements?
Plenty products leverage the internet but many don't just stop working because of a wonky (or in many cases, unobtainable) internet connection.
PaulExcellent
Member
Oh, Microsoft.
This is a hit that you should definitely think about trying to repair.
Maybe a quick media show?
An explanation on the concept of always-online?
Some more details about the console?
A guide of the future of Xbox Infinity Live?
Nope?
You sure?
Alrighty then.
This is a hit that you should definitely think about trying to repair.
Maybe a quick media show?
An explanation on the concept of always-online?
Some more details about the console?
A guide of the future of Xbox Infinity Live?
Nope?
You sure?
Alrighty then.
Ingeniero
Member
That settles it for me then.
I have to wait for the NextBox reveal and official details.
He said that the guy is an employee, so he probably wasn't fired, good for him.
Not necessarily, when Halo 2/Halo 3 popped on the Steam registry, Stinkles/Frankie denied it's existence and said there were no plans in porting Halo 3 anywhere.
Microsoft never outright confirms or denies rumors or allegations, they have the most stubborn poker face out there.
MaulerX
Member
A little off topic (not sure if it was already posted or new thread worthy):
Atari founder Nolan Bushnell favors Xbox 720, says "Microsoft will win next-gen"
Read more: http://vr-zone.com/articles/atari-f...t-will-win-next-gen-/19514.html#ixzz2PcDVErFU
Atari founder Nolan Bushnell favors Xbox 720, says "Microsoft will win next-gen"
Read more: http://vr-zone.com/articles/atari-f...t-will-win-next-gen-/19514.html#ixzz2PcDVErFU
When someone like Gies says something dumb I wish more members would post respectful criticism of his opinion without resorting to personal insults. It makes it a whole lot easier for people to dismiss neogaf when we spend pages and pages piling on one guy with post like 'this guy is an idiot, how does this guy have a job' etc. Yes he takes some very questionable stances but the response here is disproportionate.
Can't say I am surprised from the response.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
MS can't say a single thing since they haven't announced the system yet. They wouldn't address it.
There was a thread on that a few days ago
Aquamarine
Member
Not necessarily. Microsoft could have said something like
"We would never implement something so anti-consumer that alienates our fans and customers."
Uno Venova
Banned
Via Vire - "If we were working a new console, it would not have always online requirements"
Hydrogen Bluebird
Member
I wonder what features/services MS has planned that will make it worth the hassle of having to be always online.
And does anyone even doubt it exists at this point?
I can understand the criticism, I just do not agree that he should be beholden to the posters in this thread to engage in discourse, especially in its current state. He's paid to write articles for Polygon, if I'm not mistaken, to attract views. And he has gotten the attention of the fastest moving thread on GAF currently without even posting here.
Not that anything I said will blunt the intensity of the folks posting in this thread. They're gonna do whatever, almost regardless of what Gies says or does.
UberTag
Member
You can't deny something that's true and then go back on your denial afterwards.
By not saying anything, they're pretty much confirming what we already know to be the truth.
Hopefully the Durango comes in at a purchase price that will make people not care about "always online" and "one-time activation" games. If not, well... I wouldn't want to be Microsoft.
WrenchNinja
Member
"Reported by Derek Strickland on Saturday, April 6 2013 2:24 am"
um...
He has a time machine, GET HIM!
Impeccable
Member
I think it's just funny that in 2013 in the age of the internet companies still feel it is necessary to deny at all costs. Just say, "We're working on the successor to the fantastic Xbox 360 and we will have more information about this subject and more at a future date and time."
Pretending your product doesn't exist when it's OBVIOUS it fucking does is just insane.
Pretending your product doesn't exist when it's OBVIOUS it fucking does is just insane.
NullPointer
Member
Fixed.
That is amazing.and
The first is only after 5,000 replies. The second is a godly gif that awa64 is getting too rattled about.
educator
Member
They can't deny it, because if they did, it would imply/confirm the existence of the Xbox 720.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Anybody else wish they could be a fly on the wall at Sony's executive meetings next week?
Kaz probably took the whole gang out for drinks tonight!
Kaz probably took the whole gang out for drinks tonight!
Paul thurrot said it was delayed to may.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Hey remember when Sony used to deny that PS4 was even a thing a few months ago? Something, something, PS3 hitting its stride and stuff. MS is just sticking to their "Not commenting on rumors and speculation" policy. Doesn't really confirm or deny anything.
What about Ouya?
Do people on GAF overreact? Totally. Do people on GAF sometimes revel in Schadenfreude a bit too much? Definitely.
Does that mean Gies can dismiss opinions that don't match his instead of doing his job and investigating both sides? No, it doesn't. Sure, forums can be weird, noisy, and whiny, but that doesn't mean they don't have a point.
Does that mean Gies can dismiss opinions that don't match his instead of doing his job and investigating both sides? No, it doesn't. Sure, forums can be weird, noisy, and whiny, but that doesn't mean they don't have a point.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Not necessarily. They could dismiss the claim without acknowledging the existence of the console. The language they use is very telling.
This implies it is always online, but also leaves room for the opposite to be true.
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