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Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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bzm

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I thought maxing the Glaive-equivalent was a thing in HoN? They could max Glaive and Aura, taking ult at 6 with no consequences of pushing the lane (toggleable glaive) and actually doing good damage with the ult.
The ult didn't scale with level of nuke, yes, but you still lacked a ton of aggressive power by forgoing the nuke. Literally never saw anyone build her that way past the first week of that change.
I never got to play Legionaire, but on paper the idea sounded strange to me: an Axe with no Battle Hunger. I was never particularly good at HoN, even after playing it with Dota experiences in heroes I knew just for fun. The UI, courier controls, and everything were completely foreign to me and I couldn't use them quickly.

Battle hunger is just some crummy dot, charge got you UP IN THEIR FACE, bra.
 

JustinBB7

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I don't want creepy couriers.
Seems pretty comprehensive though for the [cough] last International tourney

That third one kinda looks like that companion thing from a while ago..


That book thing is awesome btw.
 

K.Sabot

Member
They look like they belong in Monster's Inc.

It's the colors that put me off honestly, too saturated with little variation.
 

K.Sabot

Member
Huh? It's pretty safe to say that those aren't the only colors.

I meant Variation within the color of a single monster.

Stuff like shading and changing of saturation over the course of the body. Perhaps add a second color for contrast.

I know, boo-urns for me picking apart something that isn't out yet, but it looks really plain and muted. Like the color is just one tone set over the entire body.

Edit: That said, I can tell that they are doing a color shift from what I see (the teal converging into a green at the hands), but it still looks really plain to me.
 

Dahbomb

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Carry Manta Style/SnY/Assault Cuirass/Necro Lina can suck my big brown cock. Whoever did this today is a shitty troll and you should feel bad for AFK farming for 50 mins and then when you finally decided to join a team fight you died like the piece of shit you are. Oh and you took mid when clearly did not know how to play that position, no ganks or rune control.

May the trench forever stay on your side. You and your god damn Battle Fury, Armlet, Vanguard Ezalor..
 

Procarbine

Forever Platinum
I thought maxing the Glaive-equivalent was a thing in HoN? They could max Glaive and Aura, taking ult at 6 with no consequences of pushing the lane (toggleable glaive) and actually doing good damage with the ult.

I never got to play Legionaire, but on paper the idea sounded strange to me: an Axe with no Battle Hunger. I was never particularly good at HoN, even after playing it with Dota experiences in heroes I knew just for fun. The UI, courier controls, and everything were completely foreign to me and I couldn't use them quickly.

What doesn't make sense? It was a skill that got you into their face, reduced their damage, and increased their attack speed, pretty much axe's wet dream.
 

Procarbine

Forever Platinum
Carry Manta Style/SnY/Assault Cuirass/Necro Lina can suck my big brown cock. Whoever did this today is a shitty troll and you should feel bad for AFK farming for 50 mins and then when you finally decided to join a team fight you died like the piece of shit you are. Oh and you took mid when clearly did not know how to play that position, no ganks or rune control.

May the trench forever stay on your side. You and your god damn Battle Fury, Armlet, Vanguard Ezalor..

What the hell, what kind of awful would afk farm lina.
 

Rahk

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I'm in for the compendium at $10. I figured it would be that price with a courier. Is the courier included?
 

Atlantis

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Carry Manta Style/SnY/Assault Cuirass/Necro Lina can suck my big brown cock. Whoever did this today is a shitty troll and you should feel bad for AFK farming for 50 mins and then when you finally decided to join a team fight you died like the piece of shit you are. Oh and you took mid when clearly did not know how to play that position, no ganks or rune control.

May the trench forever stay on your side. You and your god damn Battle Fury, Armlet, Vanguard Ezalor..

Those items are hilariously awful, even for a goofy "carry" Lina.
 

shira

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I'm in for the compendium at $10. I figured it would be that price with a courier. Is the courier included?

Yeah, details are sketchy but it upgrades if you watch games/take part in polls. It will probably be something similar to the greevils and some sort of mtx.

Carry Manta Style/SnY/Assault Cuirass/Necro Lina can suck my big brown cock. Whoever did this today is a shitty troll and you should feel bad for AFK farming for 50 mins and then when you finally decided to join a team fight you died like the piece of shit you are. Oh and you took mid when clearly did not know how to play that position, no ganks or rune control.

May the trench forever stay on your side. You and your god damn Battle Fury, Armlet, Vanguard Ezalor..

Some people just play to farm for items. Win/lose they just want to watch the world burn.
 

TGMIII

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The Lockjaw courier is the only one I want. Shame I missed out on it since it would cost me £120+ these days, which is about £110 more than I'm willing to pay.

Compendium looks interesting though, I wonder just by how much it will increase the prize pool.
 

TUSR

Banned
All of us except swiftlame moved over, for the most part.
However Neki doesn't play anymore, Oceanic fell off the face of the planet, Delirium is still being held captive by the DOD, and Sebby died somewhere in Africa.

i heard neki got hooked by WoW or something

neki gonna neki
 
Bit late to the party on the news, but the compendium is absolutely brilliant. Probably wouldn't work for anything but a large annual tournament like this, but it's definitely next-level production for eSports.

Sold for $10.
 

Phandy

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Pre-nerf Helm of the Black Legion (hon vanguard equivalent);

Legionnaire was probably the manliest hero in the history of moba's.
Legio > Axe, all day every day.
 

Usobuko

Banned
Vote for 10 of your favorite players from any team and the winners will play in a showmatch at The International.

I don't know man, showmatch is kinda boring because the chemistry and synergy isn't there. Anyway, I'll go with

1. Zsmj
2. Dai / X!!
3. YYF (Capt)
4. Xy-
5. Puppey

vs

1. Burning (Capt)
2. 430
3. LoH
4. Chuan
5. Akke
 
Mushi AM too stronk for your Wisp + CK.

This folks is why you don't let an AM free farm in a solo lane. Really tight positioning on Orange the whole game to prevent being picked off though.
 

Archie

Second-rate Anihawk
http://pastebin.com/qcdD0R34 said:
"DOTA_TIP_PP_Desc" "The International Prize Pool is increased by $2.50 for every International Compendium purchased."

Compendium will be $10.

Also, stretch goals.

"DOTA_TIP_PP_StretchGoals" "Stretch Goals"
"DOTA_TIP_PP_StretchDesc" "Stretch Goal Rewards will be unlocked when the Prize Pool reaches the goal amounts."
"DOTA_TIP_PP_Goal_1" "Goal 1"
"DOTA_TIP_PP_Goal_2" "Goal 2"
"DOTA_TIP_PP_Goal_3" "Goal 3"
"DOTA_TIP_PP_Goal_Amount_1" "$1,700,000"
"DOTA_TIP_PP_Goal_Desc_1" "Compendium owners recieve a Limited Edition 125% Battle Booster that lasts until The International ends."
"DOTA_TIP_PP_Goal_Amount_2" "$1,850,000"
"DOTA_TIP_PP_Goal_Desc_2" "Compendium Courier gains additional stages."
"DOTA_TIP_PP_Goal_Amount_3" "$2,600,000"
"DOTA_TIP_PP_Goal_Desc_3" "Compendium Owners will receive a newly created Immortal item."
 

Archie

Second-rate Anihawk
Base prize pool is $1.6 million

Each compendium sale adds $2.50 to the prize pool

$1.7 mil stretch goal will be reached at 40,000 sales.
$1.85 mil stretch goal will be reached at 100,000 sales
$2.6 mil stretch goal will be reached at 400,000 sales
 
Base prize pool is $1.6 million

Each compendium sale adds $2.50 to the prize pool

$1.7 mil stretch goal will be reached at 40,000 sales.
$1.85 mil stretch goal will be reached at 100,000 sales
$2.6 mil stretch goal will be reached at 400,000 sales

Oh, I thought the stretch goal was how much was added to the pool, not the pool itself.

It'll easily make the first one in a few days.
 
They are not going to give out TI2 Smeevils. The datamined inventory image looks like the green one on the Compendium website. I can't link it right now, but it looks like a green, larger and slightly more detailed version that is not riding anything and carries a backpack.

In any case it will be different from the TI2 version.

Any news on the release date for the Compendium? :)

10:00 PDT. In four hours and twenty minutes.
 
If we meet the top stretch goal, Valve will take home 3 million dollars in profits, unless my math is off (400,000 * 7.5)

So basically this will have paid for the International and some.
 

Aesthet1c

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If we meet the top stretch goal, Valve will take home 3 million dollars in profits, unless my math is off (400,000 * 7.5)

So basically this will have paid for the International and some.

Brilliant move on Valve's part. I remember them talking last year about how this might be their last International. Maybe if they can turn a good profit they would continue to do it.
 

TGMIII

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Brilliant move on Valve's part. I remember them talking last year about how this might be their last International. Maybe if they can turn a good profit they would continue to do it.

I thought they said that TI3 would be the last event in the current venue. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
 
If the Compendium works out for them and I am pretty sure it will, they would be pretty silly not to continue the International.

I don't think they actively hate money.
 

BeesEight

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Brilliant move on Valve's part. I remember them talking last year about how this might be their last International. Maybe if they can turn a good profit they would continue to do it.

My read of that announcement was that Valve doesn't like 'forcing' its employees to do anything. They were committed to doing a third but weren't sure if they wanted to keep holding the event each year. I suspect that the Compendium element is just as much a money maker as it is an incentive for Valve workers to keep running the tournament in order to try new things.
 
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