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Metro: Last Light first run copies have included Ranger Mode, otherwise $5 DLC
- Thread starter Messofanego
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Thinking back, the earliest I can recall is Electronic Boutique giving away t shirts, posters, and other gaming chachskis for a pre order. Back then it did feel special, like I was being rewarded just for coming into the store. You didn't even have to put money down, just show up and get loot.
Nowadays its just a mess. The industry has developed this "F-You" attitude toward anyone that doesn't pre order their game. So many times I'll get excited about a game just after release when people I know are playing and word of mouth is going around -- and I usually resist because I feel so stupid buying a game 2 days after release.
Seriously? I know you're feigning ignorance in order to get a pass, but a preorder implies you put a hold on the game prior to release so you can pick it up on release. A first run copy is any copy that was printed during the game's initial printing.
Preorders = can place before release so you can pick it up on release
First run = can readily find at retail both on release and months after release
Pretty big difference there champ, and your thread title states that if you fail to do the former you must pay extra in order to access the content. This is a complete fabrication.
"Late to the launch" is in this context is both pretty misleading and entirely meaningless when every copy in print will have access to the content, up until they do a second shipment (which won't be for months).
That's exactly what I think too. There's no need to be butthurt about such a silly thing. We need to chill down and enjoy an awesome game.
Dictator93
Member
We have known this since December 2012
And I'm surprised that ANYBODY is surprised this is still happening.
This also happened with Metro 2033 - except it was paid downloadable content and there was no way to get it for free.
I'm not saying it's okay but I'm saying to SCREAM BLOODY MURDER over $5 that we already knew about is beyond hyperbolic.
This.
Still not very happy about it though. I just pre-ordered it.
Is this what happened? Interesting.
All at a glorious 15 fps, am I right?
Edit: Thanks to whomever is responsible for the title change.
IcyRhythms
Member
Don't like it, don't buy it
If you think it's complete nonsense, don't support the full game or its DLC.
If you think it's complete nonsense, don't support the full game or its DLC.
Yes yes, but if we don't make an outcry there's going to be nothing done IF enough people jump on this crap anyway. Hell, even if it bombs silence would imply this wasn't something people had an issue with whereas if it does they'll look into WHY and see this is something people did not like at all.
trab pu kcip
Member
fuck, this really makes me question if I should get the game at all. I wouldn't play it any other way than ranger mode but I'd never pay an extra 5$ for it. it's a matter of principle.
this shouldn't be...metro...what happened
yeah but the game itself looks so promising, it's just a damn shame.
this shouldn't be...metro...what happened
yeah but the game itself looks so promising, it's just a damn shame.
IcyRhythms
Member
I'm not sure how many developers actually care. They know if the game creates enough buzz(or is already super popular)that gamers will the buy product regardless. It's sad, but true. I agree, though, I suppose it's better to say something than nothing.
Here is what I think:
1- This was planned by THQ, as someone have said before.
2- At least for me, the game is cheaper at launch than Tomb Raider or BioShock Infinite. And this mode is included for free. So, it's no big deal if you already planned to pre-order. It's the game with all the content, right?
3- As for people who wouldn't buy at launch, than I agree that $5 for a mode is bad. Since KM/DS can't/won't do anything about this, you, as a consumer, can do what you want.
1- This was planned by THQ, as someone have said before.
2- At least for me, the game is cheaper at launch than Tomb Raider or BioShock Infinite. And this mode is included for free. So, it's no big deal if you already planned to pre-order. It's the game with all the content, right?
3- As for people who wouldn't buy at launch, than I agree that $5 for a mode is bad. Since KM/DS can't/won't do anything about this, you, as a consumer, can do what you want.
MikeE21286
Member
Good idea witha poor marketing message.
You don't see the big deal for having to pay 5$ in order to play a harder difficulty setting?
Neuromancer
Member
Maybe under Deep Silver they'll do the right thing and end up making it a free download.
AstroZombie
Banned
What about Steam? There's no such thing as first run copies there.
I was planning to get this day one, but now I'll wait for a sale.
I was planning to get this day one, but now I'll wait for a sale.
trab pu kcip
Member
it especially pisses me off that people who seriously care about experiencing the game in its full potential are punished like this.
if you have preorder dlc crap just throw in some lollipop extras for the generic mass of buyers who are used to paying for this kinda stuff or just don't care as long as they get some fancy accessories.
if you have preorder dlc crap just throw in some lollipop extras for the generic mass of buyers who are used to paying for this kinda stuff or just don't care as long as they get some fancy accessories.
And many internet forum posts require no thought.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Isn't it weird to give you ranger mode cos it's better/harder then give you more in game money/firepower that makes it easier? >_>
Anyway, locking difficulty modes is shitty and giving in game currency in single player games is also shitty. I could understand the latter in some online game where money basically acts as a shortcut to something.
It all just speaks of shitty balance and meaningless game mechanics that should be removed or reworked.
Anyway, locking difficulty modes is shitty and giving in game currency in single player games is also shitty. I could understand the latter in some online game where money basically acts as a shortcut to something.
It all just speaks of shitty balance and meaningless game mechanics that should be removed or reworked.
Every PC copy of this game is a steam copy. I can assume you can just buy a physical copy if it means that much to you.
Also, the game is already significantly discounted on GMG if you want to get it "on sale".
-BLITZ-
Member
The question is, why do you charge .. uh, money, right ? for range mode. If you don't want to be in the game, why not included in a free DLC ? So what's the deal with money being involved in the middle of a playthrough mode.
Oh man, what a really bad choice to earn extra money, eh.
Oh man, what a really bad choice to earn extra money, eh.
AstroZombie
Banned
Not an option where I live and when I say "on sale" I mean "sub $10".
slightconfuse
Banned
Difficulty mode DLC.
and thought EA had shitty DLC .
Price drop it is. Won't support shut like this
and thought EA had shitty DLC .
Price drop it is. Won't support shut like this
Well it seems like it's for first run copies rather than 'purely' preorder so if someone sees it in the shops they can still make an impulse purchase and get the Ranger mode on release day (and probably for a short while afterwards)
What I don't get is this: if you don't like to have to pay for it, assuming you won't pre-order, why would you buy the DLC even when the game is cheaper? You're still sending the message that you support that paid DLC for a difficulty mode.
For me, the two best options are: buy as a pre-order (difficulty mode for free) or buy when it's cheaper but don't buy the DLC at all.
For me, the two best options are: buy as a pre-order (difficulty mode for free) or buy when it's cheaper but don't buy the DLC at all.
Krusenstern
Banned
Things like these make it easy to decide getting the game later for 10$ or so.
The Janitor
Member
I'm guessing the no-HUD thing is locked to ranger mode too. It's like with Hitmans purist mode. Why can't they just give us the option to turn off HUD in any mode :S
AHA-Lambda
Member
You had better be joking, or else you're a moron.
trab pu kcip
Member
a friend said he'll just wait for the goty edition now, with all dlc included. sounds weird to wait that long but I might do the same thing.
Pinko Marx
Banned
You know, I was gunna pick this game up sometime soon cause I was able to get a good deal on it..But I think I'll just wait for the eventual Ultimate Edition and get it on sale.
Could be another option...
SlasherJPC
Banned
I think if you don't buy the game within the first month or so and get it free, and your waiting for a price drop like many do. Giving full support to the devs nets you a freebie. Paying $5 bucks for a mode that you may or may not want after you buy the game at a lower price, I don't see a huge problem. I mean I get the frustration but... big deal.
If you want Ranger Mode on Steam you have to pre-order it. It'll be put up as $5 DLC as soon as the game is released.
If I want to wait for impressions (considering the game is £35 and singleplayer only I think this is a good idea) I won't get Ranger Mode if I want to buy it digitally.
ranger mode, to most people interested in it, isn't extra content or even articulating content, it's merely a preference. when i say merely i don't mean it carries little weight, i mean potential customers don't qualify it as some value-adding additional experience, just the default way they want to play the game.
as i said in the other thread, it's like making inverted mouse or 5.1 sound a pre-order "bonus". people won't pay extra to fulfil their preferences, but they will avoid products which don't provide them.
as i said in the other thread, it's like making inverted mouse or 5.1 sound a pre-order "bonus". people won't pay extra to fulfil their preferences, but they will avoid products which don't provide them.
Don't take this the wrong way but I gotta ask:
Did you even have ANY interest in this game whatsoever? Like, if you'd planned on buying it why would you skip it for a "limited edition" DLC? I see what the problem is, and Ranger Mode was AWESOME in 2033, but I don't know why you'd not buy the game because of it. Also, I'm not trying to say I disagree with your decision but I'm just wondering.
ThreePiMatt
Member
Couple things to point out, EA used the same "way it was meant to be played" when they were pimping their retailer exclusive bonuses for Battlefield 3. Its a marketing slogan created by marketing people and you're better off just ignoring that it even exists.
Secondly, per Steam, all of 2.9% of players beat the game on Ranger mode, I'd assume even smaller percentage on consoles. So this really effects a tiny minority of players, and like they pointed out, the people who actually will take advantage of this content will probably be preordering anyway.
Finally, yeah, preorder DLC is kind of scummy. But really would you rather it be a difficulty level that a tiny fraction of players care about or story content that effects 100% of players? Preorder DLC is a fact of life and no one gives two shits about weapon skins anymore so the DLC is going to be more substantial than that.
If people want to be angry at something be angry at the 100 bullets/money. Be angry at DLC that makes the game easier, not harder. It fucked up some of the balance in Human Revolution.
The amount of outrage for this is entirely disproportional to the actual scope and impact of the issue.
Secondly, per Steam, all of 2.9% of players beat the game on Ranger mode, I'd assume even smaller percentage on consoles. So this really effects a tiny minority of players, and like they pointed out, the people who actually will take advantage of this content will probably be preordering anyway.
Finally, yeah, preorder DLC is kind of scummy. But really would you rather it be a difficulty level that a tiny fraction of players care about or story content that effects 100% of players? Preorder DLC is a fact of life and no one gives two shits about weapon skins anymore so the DLC is going to be more substantial than that.
If people want to be angry at something be angry at the 100 bullets/money. Be angry at DLC that makes the game easier, not harder. It fucked up some of the balance in Human Revolution.
The amount of outrage for this is entirely disproportional to the actual scope and impact of the issue.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
I don't see anything wrong with this. I don't give a shit about hard mode, but I would guess that the core fans do. Aren't these the people that will buy the game when it is still selling for full price? If they are waiting for a price drop then they should factor this tiny cost into that decision.
vikingvessel
Member
If it ends up pricing down at the same pace as the original, it shouldn't be long before the DLC is the same price as the game until the game itself becomes a throw-in.