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[BlazingDarkness]

You mistake me. I expect that stuff because that's the easiest thing to do. I also expect something more than just that, and not just in the sense of surprise. I expect first party or full exclusive software that inspires awe. Not reinventing the wheel, but doing something more than look prettier and on a larger scale of quantity.

I can see where you're coming from but I'd scale down your expectations a little. Publishers are still going where the money is, 'next-gen' doesn't necessarily mean new ideas (and risks) - you'll see more inventive stuff come in time, but it's not what we're going to be seeing just yet, for now it's all about the pretty visuals.

 

[Sydle]

I don't understand the pre-emptive damage control comments. Did anyone expect they were going to show their entire software portfolio hand on the 21st? Makes sense to officially announce a next box and focus on platform vision first, with a few key game examples to showcase that vision, then focus on specific content (games, music, video, etc.) that make up the short term lineup.

 

[Usobuko]

I would not be shocked if that showed up.

The only thing Gabe shat on more them Microsoft was the ps3 and look how that ended. I bet if MS got in touch and compromised on a few things for Valve games regarding steam he would come around fast.

Erm, not even Portal 2 was timed-exclusive for PS3. Gaben had to take care of those on Valve platforms first, that's their core business. They are in no need for any cash and Steam is growing consistently.

 

[Courage]

Mirrors Edge 2.

Holy shit, this should happen.

 

[Satchel]

There is literally no possible way MS has HL3 as an exclusive. They would have to buy Valve to get it.

Mirror's Edge 2 on the other hand, would be awesome to see.

Outside of Respawns game, I expect Microsoft has locked down one of the annualized franchises for 1 edition.

Be it either:
- CoD
- FIFA 14
- Madden 14

or anything like that. Wile the install bases are small, the moneyhat wouldn't have to be as big.

 

[iceatcs]

I wonder what timed exclusive would be most likely to make this board shit bricks of rage.

I think HL3 is the worst one. I can't think what else can be, maybe FIFA. Popular PS games are first party.

PC has very strong voice community. I really don't want go to reddit if happen.

 

[88random]

Moneyhats incoming

 

[StuBurns]

Outside of Respawns game, I expect Microsoft has locked down one of the annualized franchises for 1 edition.

Be it either:
- CoD
- FIFA 14
- Madden 14

or anything like that. Wile the install bases are small, the moneyhat wouldn't have to be as big.

Yeah, if they're ever going to do it, it's this year. CoD would be genius. It would cost a lot, but it would completely lock down that audience for a whole generation in terms of mindshare. Whatever it cost, it would be worth it.

 

[H_Prestige]

You mistake me. I expect that stuff because that's the easiest thing to do. I also expect something more than just that, and not just in the sense of surprise. I expect first party or full exclusive software that inspires awe. Not reinventing the wheel, but doing something more than look prettier and on a larger scale of quantity.

What do you think COD is?

 

[Iced_Eagle]

Final Fantasy 7 remake, exclusive to Durango.

Make it happen MS. GAF would be down for days.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I've heard the same thing from Greenberg for a number of years now, so it's hard to take a comment seriously.

Realistically I'm not going to get my hopes up expecting anything more than the status quo for the past few years.

And if he proves me wrong, I'll be pleasantly surprised. But as for exclusives, I expect the usual suspects (Forza, etc), and probably Respawn's "Titan".

I have no faith in Ryse being any good, and I've never been a fan of Remedy or Lionhead's output.

People expecting Microsoft to lock up something of the magnitude of CoD, BF, or FIFA are kidding themselves. Microsoft would need to moneyhat hundreds of millions of dollars for that to happen.

I suspect a lot of people will also be disappointed with what they show on Tuesday.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

I can see where you're coming from but I'd scale down your expectations a little. Publishers are still going where the money is, 'next-gen' doesn't necessarily mean new ideas (and risks) - you'll see more inventive stuff come in time, but it's not what we're going to be seeing just yet, for now it's all about the pretty visuals.

Well, I always come away disappointed and I've been following these events since the CES days of a big NA video game show. So, it's nothing new, but I won't keep hoping for something better when they really should be living up to a higher standard of ambition. Especially the platform holder who sets the tone, the bar, and challenges the third party to match a set of heightened standards for what next-gen could be.

 

[Satchel]

Yeah, if they're ever going to do it, it's this year. CoD would be genius. It would cost a lot, but it would completely lock down that audience for a whole generation in terms of mindshare. Whatever it cost, it would be worth it.

The launch year is the time to spend hat sort of cash. Your dollar goes so much further. Band reinforcement is so important in that first year or so. So locking down big name third party exclusives is a good investment.

If Microsoft locks down the next gen version of CoD Ghosts, that would be huge for them.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

What do you think COD is?

Apparently, I'm not explaining myself well. I expect the AAA success stories to be standard going into next-gen, too. I also expect more and Sony didn't provide that at its first show. So, for me, their presentation wasn't at all amazing.

 

[DopeyFish]

I've heard the same thing from Greenberg for a number of years now, so it's hard to take a comment seriously

[citation needed]

 

[TedBundysNips]

Really hope we get a new Killer Instinct this gen.

 

[sleepykyo]

Erm, not even Portal 2 was timed-exclusive for PS3. Gaben had to take care of those on Valve platforms first, that's their core business. They are in no need for any cash and Steam is growing consistently.

That doesn't have to conflict. They can go the same route EA did for Left 4 Dead.

 

[Syphon Filter]

I've heard the same thing from Greenberg for a number of years now, so it's hard to take a comment seriously.

Realistically I'm not going to get my hopes up expecting anything more than the status quo for the past few years.

And if he proves me wrong, I'll be pleasantly surprised. But as for exclusives, I expect the usual suspects (Forza, etc), and probably Respawn's "Titan".

I have no faith in Ryse being any good, and I've never been a fan of Remedy or Lionhead's output.

People expecting Microsoft to lock up something of the magnitude of CoD, BF, or FIFA are kidding themselves. Microsoft would need to moneyhat hundreds of millions of dollars for that to happen.

I suspect a lot of people will also be disappointed with what they show on Tuesday.

Naw MS doesn't play around, it will be huge.

 

[SentientStone]

Really hope we get a new Killer Instinct this gen.

Killer Instinct: Humiliation
(Kinect dance game ;p)

I really do hope we get a full Killer Instinct game next gen though.

 

[Satchel]

Really hope we get a new Killer Instinct this gen.

Microsoft wouldn't have taken the cost and effort to get the KI rights back if they weren't panning on doing SOMETHING with it.

 

[Brofist]

Why would he say exclusives to mean the obvious stuff (kinect and 1st party)? Must mean 3rd party stuff that normally would be multiplatform titles. I have a feeling the "hurr hurr Kinect" people in here will be ass hurt come soon.

 

[Mrbob]

Apparently, I'm not explaining myself well. I expect the AAA success stories to be standard going into next-gen, too. I also expect more and Sony didn't provide that at its first show. So, for me, their presentation wasn't at all amazing.

So does The Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls not count because they are on PS3? Sony pushes gaming boundaries much further than MS. I think you are putting some unrealistic expectations on MS themselves to deliver at this event.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Naw MS doesn't play around, it will be huge.

They've been "playing around" since, what, 2008? That's the last time I cared about one of their E3 press conferences.

I don't think an hour is going to be long enough to truly excite people. We'll see a platform that has a bunch of entertainment connectivity, we'll see the OS, we'll see the console, a few glimpses of launch titles, and I think most will be left wondering what the big deal is.

Now, that's not to say they can't have a blowout E3....for this forum's interests at least, there's just more potential for information that this forum would get excited about at E3, while quite a few will probably be bored with kinnectivity talk during the brief initial reveal.

 

[TedBundysNips]

Killer Instinct: Humiliation
(Kinect dance game ;p)

I really do hope we get a full Killer Instinct game next gen though.

Ha day 1 purchase for a chance to dance with orchid!! But yeah Killer Instinct next gen would be sweet.

 

[Satchel]

Sony pushes gaming boundaries much further than MS..

Genuinely interested to hear your reasoning on this comment.

 

[TedBundysNips]

Microsoft wouldn't have taken the cost and effort to get the KI rights back if they weren't panning on doing SOMETHING with it.

Suppose your right , Lets just hope they don't butcher it and lose the essence of the original games.

 

[Foffy]

Microsoft wouldn't have taken the cost and effort to get the KI rights back if they weren't panning on doing SOMETHING with it.

Kinect motion fighter.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

So does The Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls not count because they are on PS3? Sony pushes gaming boundaries much further than MS. I think you are putting some unrealistic expectations on MS themselves to deliver at this event.

Maybe, but that's my take on it. I just don't feel the same buzz about PS4 or next-gen, so far, that many people apparently do. It feels like a lazy extension of today's highly incremental design. Factory output of the highest quality. And, no, I don't see TLOU being that impressive. I'm already not anticipating Beyond, but we'll see with both when I play them. That's this gen, though. When someone throws a party to debut next-gen, I expect next-gen.

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

Perfect timing for me, my days off work changed to Tuesday- Wednesday. So anticipation is going to drive me nuts. Hoping for some leaks just before or some Gametrailers exclusives.

 

[StuBurns]

Maybe, but that's my take on it. I just don't feel the same buzz about PS4 or next-gen, so far, that many people apparently do. It feels like a lazy extension of today's highly incremental design. Factory output of the highest quality.

How was this generation any different?

 

[Stripper13]

Anyone boycotting the system if only COD is shown on the 21st? In addition, if they mention Kinect or movies at all, I'll see my 360 right away.

Weren't you supposed to be an insider - or privy to insider information at some point. Did you give up that act?

I just seem to remember tons of back pedalling and defensive posts when people were calling you out on your vague-at-best posts.

On Toplc: Curious about what they're going to show. I'm not partial to exclusives either way - but the Respawn mech title has me excited. Realistically, if the hardware is solid (as in, not noticeably worse than PS4) and they have a Halo/Forza/Cool-couple-of-other-titles, I'll be on board.

 

[Gamespawn]

I think that since MS is going second, and COD is pretty much guaranteed to be there, their show will be better than the Event. E3 is going to be EPIC!

Salt will literally be everywhere...

In mouths, eyes, buttocks (hehe).

 

[Y2Kev]

I'm predicting an exclusive from Inbombniac Games

 

[fallingdove]

Killer Instinct: Humiliation
(Kinect dance game ;p)

I really do hope we get a full Killer Instinct game next gen though.

Sign me up. This would force my own multi console future. The kinect dance game of course.

 

[Justin]

I suspect a lot of people will also be disappointed with what they show on Tuesday.

I think you mean that a lot of people will claim to be disappointed no matter what they show on Tuesday.

 

[grosvenor_92]

How many involve kinect ?

 

[Satchel]

I think you mean that a lot of people will claim to be disappointing no matter what they show on Tuesday.

Yep. At least on NeoGAF, many will "be disappointed" no matter what is shown. But it all depends on expectations. This event has only ever been stated to be about the console, and their vision.

They've flat ut said E3 will be games games games.

Given there's only 2 weeks between events, I don't see the issue with the strategy.

 

[Klocker]

I think you mean that a lot of people will claim to be disappointing no matter what they show on Tuesday.

yep

Predestined disappointment disguised as disappointment.

 

[Justin]

How many involve kinect ?

I am guessing 1 on Tuesday, the same amount of move games that Sony showed.

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

How many involve kinect ?

Probably over 30, including the posts in this thread

Spoiler

=p

 

[MightyHedgehog]

How was this generation any different?

Oh, it wasn't that great to start, either, but it wasn't what we got from Sony in February. It actually felt more interesting than what has been revealed so far. And, really, it's early days, so I expect a better, fairer look at year one for this generation after E3. Right now, though, I'm basically hoping for a better showing with MS. Doesn't mean we won't see much of the same, but it only takes a more interesting, different direction for what they show to be more interesting than the most refined game of today being dressed up with higher-spec technology. I want something I haven't seen, isn't overly familiar, or won't be possible with today's platforms. You know. Next-gen.

 

[Four_Chamber]

I think you mean that a lot of people will claim to be disappointing no matter what they show on Tuesday.

Bingo. There are some people that will shit on this reveal even if Jesus walked onto stage.

I can't wait for the megatons, whether they occur at this reveal or at E3. With these words, I'm feeling they have a much better chance happening at Microsoft's conferences.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Would insomniac being on stage with Ms showing off an infinity exclusive be a betrayalton? Because... Well, yeah.

I'm predicting an exclusive from Inbombniac Games

Well that's.....something.

 

[StuBurns]

Yep. At least on NeoGAF, many will "be disappointed" no matter what is shown. But it all depends on expectations. This event has only ever been stated to be about the console, and their vision.

They've flat ut said E3 will be games games games.

Given there's only 2 weeks between events, I don't see the issue with the strategy.

I think I would have been disappointed if they don't show many games before I read the quote in the OP.

It makes a lot of sense to hold most of it back. You don't want your line up to be old news when Sony reveal theirs at E3. You'd want them both to compete directly. So I think it makes sense, but if I hadn't read that, I'd have been expecting more of a game focus than I am now.

 

[Toki767]

Exclusives...kinect...DLC...timed third party games....basically the same things we've had this gen.

 

[Colonel Nasty]

I'm pretty sure you can make the list now of who's gonna be disappointed tues.

 

[Cartman86]

Bleh all it means is that Tuesdays event will not have a ton of games which we should expect. Don't go crazy when half of it is about TV/media and UI features. Wait to complain at E3 if they fuck up. They are lowering certain expectations.

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

How was this generation any different?

I think so. This generation made online console gaming mainstream. We also got interesting smaller downloadable titles.

Wii Sports was pretty mindblowning at the time as well.

What's going to blow are minds next gen?

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Insomniac going Xbox exclusive is okay with me, their games have always been middling on Sony systems so hopefully a MS partnership or whatever will encourage something worth caring about.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I think you mean that a lot of people will claim to be disappointing no matter what they show on Tuesday.

If Microsoft shows surprising specs, and some really polished looking launch games (and some new IP), I think a lot of people could be pleasantly surprised.

But I'm not expecting a whole lot on either front. And E3 will be reserved for most of the game talks.

Again, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things if they come out with a great E3, but the initial reveal may be a bit deflating after such a long and drawn out buildup, especially since their competitor has already shown their cards for next-gen.