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The third Sonic Wii U game might be Sonic vs. Mario Kart

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Nowhere in my statement did I mention PC hardware. I don't know why it was even mentioned? I'm talking about Sumo's current output on the Wii U.

You also never mentioned the Wii U in your post.
Please god no!

Don't shit up mario kart with sonic and his shitty sub 30fps friends

Fine if its a spin off and there is a Nintendo developed next gen mario kart, but if this is it I'm out.
The only thing me and Dan were pointing out was your statement that the game was sub 30 FPS.
 

Surfheart

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What's the excuse for all the Mario villains coming together for a race, then? Or ROB, or Pac-Man?


You mentioned the game was sub 30 FPS. You were then corrected. I mean, I could complain that the PS3 version of Sonic Generations has long loading times and then say "man this game has awful loading times, Sonic Team can't make any sort of good games," but I'd be wrong as soon as someone showed me the PC version.


This is a thread about a potential Wii U game yes?
Sonic transformed is sub 30 fps on the Wii U. THis hypothetical new game is also going to be on the Wii U.
I wasn't corrected, someone game out of left field and stated the game runs nice on a high end PC which has nothing to do with a new Kart game developed by Sumo on the Wii U.
What am I missing here in this conversation?

Edit: Look I'm sorry if I was misunderstood, I just dont want the Wii U Mario Kart to run like Sonic Transformed Wii U does, thats all I meant to say.
 

Roo

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Someone just contact S0L and ask him directly if a Mario Kart/Sonic Transformed game is a possibility.

I wouldn't mind a game like that as long as they keep the Mario Kart franchise intact. No guest mascots. The last thing we need is a Smash Bros game on wheels.
 

sn00zer

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Man that Skies of Arcadia track is all-time. I don't think there's a better track in any kart game.

Ehhh there are better tracks in the game....actually there are only three tracks I dont like

THe two Jet Set Radio Tracks and mutha fuckin Billy Hatcher level......no idea how that on made it in without major tweaks
 

RM8

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THe two Jet Set Radio Tracks
What.

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Graffiti City is one of my favorite tracks ever. Oh man, love it so much.
 

RM8

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I tend to like city-themed tracks in kart racers :p Neo Bowser City, Toad's Turnpike... not Moonview Highway, though. I hate Moonview Highway.
 
What's the excuse for all the Mario villains coming together for a race, then? Or ROB, or Pac-Man?

Was ROB in a Mario Kart game? Serious question, because if he was I wasn't aware.

As for the Mario Kart GP games, I think while Nintendo is fine with letting third party companies using Nintendo's characters in a Nintendo IP pair them up with their own characters, I seem to remember an interview party companies using N there was an interview with Hideo Konno where he said that Link and other Nintendo franchise characters wouldn't be a fit for Mario Kart. As loosely as Nintendo takes the plot of the Mario series, I just can't see them putting Link and Samus in a go-kart race with Mario without there being a decent backstory to how that's even possible.
 
Ehhh there are better tracks in the game....actually there are only three tracks I dont like

THe two Jet Set Radio Tracks and mutha fuckin Billy Hatcher level......no idea how that on made it in without major tweaks

Billy Hatcher level has the best music though ;)
 

RagnarokX

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What's the excuse for all the Mario villains coming together for a race, then? Or ROB, or Pac-Man?
Mario has a Mickey Mouse/Loony Tunes element where the characters are like actors while some of Nintendo's other IPs take things a bit more seriously. But there's no reason they can't do it. I mean Smash came up with an excuse.

I've thought a big Kingdom Hearts style game connecting Nintendo's franchises would be cool; using spacefaring franchises like Metroid, Kirby, Star Fox, Pikmin, and F-Zero to connect franchises like Mario and Zelda in some kind of adventure RPG type game.
 

Jofamo

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Fact is, Nintendo have been padding the Mario Kart series with D-List Mario characters for generations now. Not since 64 have I actually cared about the roster. Who really wants Dry Bones, Koopa Troopa, Paratroopa, Wiggler etc? They're just filling up spaces.

It's about time Nintendo gave Mario Kart an All Star roster, and include their other franchises.
 

BooJoh

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Fact is, Nintendo have been padding the Mario Kart series with D-List Mario characters for generations now. Not since 64 have I actually cared about the roster. Who really wants Dry Bones, Koopa Troopa, Paratroopa, Wiggler etc? They're just filling up spaces.

It's about time Nintendo gave Mario Kart an All Star roster, and include their other franchises.

Koopa Troopa was one of my favorite racers in the very first Mario Kart, and Dry Bones was my Favorite in Mario Kart DS. And if them not being a unique character makes them D-List, then I guess we better toss Toad out while we're at it.

But as someone else said: add whoever you want, I'm going to play as my Mii.
 

Jofamo

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Koopa Troopa was one of my favorite racers in the very first Mario Kart, and Dry Bones was my Favorite in Mario Kart DS. And if them not being a unique character makes them D-List, then I guess we better toss Toad out while we're at it.

But as someone else said: add whoever you want, I'm going to play as my Mii.

Ill give you Koopa Troopa, as he is there to represent Marios normal enemies and was in the original. But no one can defend baby Peach and baby Daisy.
 

BooJoh

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Ill give you Koopa Troopa, as he is there to represent Marios normal enemies and was in the original. But no one can defend baby Peach and baby Daisy.

It's hard to defend any of the baby characters outside of the Yoshi's Island franchise. But to be fair I haven't played Partners in Time, so they might be okay in there.
 
You also never mentioned the Wii U in your post.

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How was it not already obvious that he was talking about the Wii U? This thread is about the wii u version of the game. Did people think he was talking about the potential pc version of Mario and Sonic racing game?

edit-I see that he had already responded with his own reply that said it better than I did, so I guess my reply is unnecessary. Just seemed like you guys were giving him a hard time when his original post was completely reasonable, and to me it seemed painfully obvious what he meant.
 

BooJoh

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How was it not already obvious that he was talking about the Wii U? This thread is about the wii u version of the game. Did people think he was talking about the potential pc version of Mario and Sonic racing game?

Exactly. This entire thread is a discussion about a game that is assumed to be only appearing on Nintendo consoles. How well a PC game runs is completely irrelevant in the scope of the discussion.

The only possible way a PC version of this speculated game will exist is if it's just another Sonic & All-Stars Racing game and the Nintendo versions will have Nintendo cameos that don't appear in other versions.
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
I'd be happy to see this because MK would benefit from some new mechanics, but I'd be disappointed if this kind of collaboration gives us just "expected" games (such as MK). I'd prefer to see Nintendo craeting collaborations to increase the number of games available.
 
Fact is, Nintendo have been padding the Mario Kart series with D-List Mario characters for generations now. Not since 64 have I actually cared about the roster. Who really wants Dry Bones, Koopa Troopa, Paratroopa, Wiggler etc? They're just filling up spaces.

It's about time Nintendo gave Mario Kart an All Star roster, and include their other franchises.

Fuckin'

It's the worst that they bumped Waluigi out of Mario Kart 7 for the stupid Queen Bee, though
 

ffdgh

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Ill give you Koopa Troopa, as he is there to represent Marios normal enemies and was in the original. But no one can defend baby Peach and baby Daisy.
Hey! Baby peach existed in M&L: PiT and she's so darn adorable to play as.

Couldn't care less about baby daisy tho.
 

NotLiquid

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Playing Transformed was like experiencing some childlike wonder. I almost felt like it was the racing game's equivalent of Super Mario Galaxy. Mario Kart ought to take a few cues from it.

I still don't understand why Sonic the Hedgehog needs a kart to go fast.

He doesn't. He just needs it to make it fair obviously. Also he can't fly or swim.
 

Into

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I hope Sonic is in MK8, and the catch is that, Sonic does not use a kart or bike or whatever, he just straight up runs. That would be really cool, can even make drifting work and Tails can come and pick him when he flies off the ledge.

Chili dogs would be his power up
 
I hope Sonic is in MK8, and the catch is that, Sonic does not use a kart or bike or whatever, he just straight up runs. That would be really cool, can even make drifting work and Tails can come and pick him when he flies off the ledge.

Chili dogs would be his power up

I think Sonic can do all on his own, I mean he's done killer jumps before.

Well, maybe they could bring Tails for underwater bits (DOG PADDLE), and Knux can glide him instead of hang gliders.

Items are fine for Sonic.

But seriously, Sonic can be in a kart, it's called COMPETITION!

I never understood the total hatred for Sonic bring in a kart, he just wants to play fair, of course he can beat anyone running or in a kart, but Sonic wants to test his driving skills or Air Riding skills and shit.

He's a team player after all, he is known to play fair.

As for my idea on the game, I think Sonic should be in MK8 and Mario in Sonic Racing 3.

But I'd also love a Riders 4 exclusive to Wii U and Mario could also be a character there. I really liked Riders, it was a pretty unique concept and the tricks were awesome and the air system was also unique. That's just me and am ready to be egged.
 

Taker666

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I'd rather something like Super Smash Bros Racing (featuring Sonic)...than do a Sonic Kart/Mario Kart crossover.

Create two seperate games rather than shoehorning Sonic into Mario Kart.
 

Roo

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I don'tt really understand the hate the Mario Kart franchise gets about being too slow compared to other Racing games. I mean yeah, single player 50cc and 100cc are a pain in the ass but online play 150cc and Mirror with pro players feel pretty intense. Sometimes 3 laps are not enough.
 
TSSZ has another of their rumors (Dimensions was a load of bunk so...):

http://www.tssznews.com/2013/05/20/rumour-sources-claim-info-on-the-seganintendo-alliance/

To summarize, the 3rd game is a Sonic racer but not a kart racer, TSSZ (like I predicted) thinks it may be a Riders, but it's supposedly coming this year in MK8's place (which is said to be for next year), and the game will feature Nintendo characters (like how the series has featured NiGHTS, Billy Hatcher, Ulala, AiAi, etc).

I do find it's a tad much to put out LW, Sochi, and the racer in such a short span together, but it's likely this:

Sonic Lost World - Fall (Oct?)
Sonic Riders 4 - Winter? (Nov/early Dec?)
Sochi Olympics - Spring 2014? (March?)

This ties to 2011; we had Gens and Free Riders at the same time (on 360 no less), and London Olympics 3DS in the following Spring.
 

Darryl

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TSSZ has another of their rumors (Dimensions was a load of bunk so...):

http://www.tssznews.com/2013/05/20/rumour-sources-claim-info-on-the-seganintendo-alliance/

To summarize, the 3rd game is a Sonic racer but not a kart racer, TSSZ (like I predicted) thinks it may be a Riders, but it's supposedly coming this year in MK8's place (which is said to be for next year), and the game will feature Nintendo characters (like how the series has featured NiGHTS, Billy Hatcher, Ulala, AiAi, etc).

I do find it's a tad much to put out LW, Sochi, and the racer in such a short span together, but it's likely this:

Sonic Lost World - Fall (Oct?)
Sonic Riders 4 - Winter? (Nov/early Dec?)
Sochi Olympics - Spring 2014? (March?)

This ties to 2011; we had Gens and Free Riders at the same time (on 360 no less), and London Olympics 3DS in the following Spring.

its automatically bullshit because they pretend to have information about Mario Kart
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Why would Nintendo agree on Mario in Sonic Riders, considering Sonic Riders is a load of crap (that's a bit harsh but still it's just a bad game with a mediocre follow up and a disastrous third game).
 

Jofamo

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There's no way Nintendo aren't releasing Mario Kart in time for the holidays. They'll be banking on it saving the Wii U.
 

parski

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Seeing how close SEGA and Nintendo have been working lately I would not be surprized if this did in fact turn out to be the unannounced Sonic game. It would only make sense. Nintendo not knowing what to do with their own karting-series and SEGA putting out fantastic ones as of late.
 

AntMurda

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Seeing how close SEGA and Nintendo have been working lately I would not be surprized if this did in fact turn out to be the unannounced Sonic game. It would only make sense. Nintendo not knowing what to do with their own karting-series and SEGA putting out fantastic ones as of late.

This unprecedented partnership is nothing like 2002 whe SEGA was publishing exclusive games on the GameCube and Triforce, and they also co-developed F-Zero GX. Or during the Wii when SEGA published exclusive Sonic games on the Wii and co-developed Mario & Sonic like 6 times.

Okay, so seriously. The problem is that Sumo Digital develops the Sonic Racing series. They just released multiple versions of the game, they would be nowhere close to making a Mario Kart anytime soon. Not too mention the reality that Nintendo's Mario Kart team has consistently sold like 10+ million copies of their games as opposed to Sonic Racing.
 

BowieZ

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what's weird about DK characters being in Mario Kart?
Nothing really. Same with Sonic and his appearances in other Mario sports series. So I don't see that a big title change like "Sonic vs. Mario Kart" would be expected or necessary.
 

Camjo-Z

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I'll elaborate for him: he's talking NON-SENSE because the Transformed OST was great.

hyper burning rangers WOW

Also lol at that Sonic racer rumor. TSSZ is always full of shit, but I'd at least think they would stop and consider what they're reporting here. As if Nintendo would say to SEGA "hey you know those Sonic racing games you've made that have always been mediocre at best and never sell that well? Let's put off our new Mario Kart so we can get Mario in one of those!"
 

Surfheart

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There's no way Nintendo aren't releasing Mario Kart in time for the holidays. They'll be banking on it saving the Wii U.

I hope they have been working on it for the past two years then, look how long it has taken for Pikmin 3.

I hope you are right though...
 
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