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Microsoft: "We purposefully did not target the highest end graphics"

Amir0x

Banned
Well that's fine as long as it's competitive visually and not a whole gen behind.

but uh since no used games and all that, not sure how far I'll get in discovering its visual prowess.
 
It's really too bad I hate the dualshock and love the perfect Xbox pad. Because at this point, I'd rather buy a PS4 than XB1.
I want high end graphics and I will get them. Either PC or PS4. As someone who has primarily been a supporter of N/MS (although I do have a PS3 too), this generation is shaping up to be the worst yet. And that's saying something, with the Gamecube and Wii games drought.
 

CrunchinJelly

formerly cjelly
Neither is acting stupid over, and over, and over again. I tried to warn him as well, as he loved to post about completely dubious rumors. He just didn't want to give up the dream though. lol

I wasn't defending him.

But coming in here and seeing a quarter of the thread being meta-GAF gloating over a permabanned user is disappointing.
 
Yea so far my $$$ is on Sony and the ps4 over xbox one.

Still undcided but that's the way i'm leaning. E3 will tell me more i'm sure.
 

Amir0x

Banned
It's really too bad I hate the dualshock and love the perfect Xbox pad. Because at this point, I'd rather buy a PS4 than XB1.
I want high end graphics and I will get them. Either PC or PS4. As someone who has primarily been a supporter of N/MS (although I do have a PS3 too), this generation is shaping up to be the worst yet. And that's saying something, with the Gamecube and Wii games drought.

iirc there were gamepads made that emulated the look and feel of the 360 pad that worked on PS3... I'm sure the same will be true of PS4.
 

Elios83

Member
Did Reiko have an account bet or something on Xbox One's specs?

I don't know but honestly he was clearly too invested with this thing, his continual refusal to deal with the fact that the leaked specs were accurate ended up being a bit annoying.
Btw I'm sorry if the ban is permanent :/
 

Hattori

Banned
This pretty much confirms PS4 as lead platform for cross-platform games with Xbox One and (potential) Wii U ports, yes?

nope, don't forget MS has the power to money hat whatever they want (as much as I hate to admit)

I dont think being the midleground console is going to really hurt them. Its still going to have beatifull games that are several steps up from xbox360 and way more powerfull than Wii U. Then there is diminishing returns. I dont think the general consumer are going to care that PS4 games looks better.
To be quite honest, I didn't see anything from what they showed that can't be done on the Wii U graphically, unless we're talking theoretically based on it's specs?
 

Hermii

Member
I dont think being the midleground console is going to really hurt them. Its still going to have beatifull games that are several steps up from xbox360 and way more powerfull than Wii U. Then there is diminishing returns. I dont think the general consumer are going to care that PS4 games looks better.
 
PS4 purchase am confirmed.

Microsoft didn't wow me at all. And while I was initially lukewarm on the PS4 announcement as well, Sony had a much better showing, and it's not even E3 yet.
 
Can't wait to upgrade my GPU with the money I would have spent on PS4 or Xbox One. It just seems more prudent now.

Exactly what I am doing, I nearly bought one recently but decided to wait and see.

Now they're really both behind of there is no point in them. I shall wait for the next cards though first so get it later this year.
 
nope, don't forget MS has the power to money hat whatever they want (as much as I hate to admit)

I don't doubt their ability to money hat, but why would they do so to be lead platform for a cross-platform game? I can see money-hatting for exclusive content, exclusive DLC, or entire games exclusive to Xbox One, but not money-hatting for lead platform. What would be the benefit?
 
Wasn't the biggest reason the 360 was leadplatform on so many multiplatform games because it was just easier to to develop for?
 
I hope this (comparatively) weaker hard gets priced accordingly then. The Call of Duty: Ghosts trailer looked visually average. Battlefield 4 absolutely destroys it. Forza 5 looked great but then again Forza 4 looked excellent on the 360 so it would have hard to make it look worse. They could have taken Forza 4 and made it 1080p at 60fps with good AA and it would have been impressive.
 

sTeLioSco

Banned
nope, don't forget MS has the power to money hat whatever they want (as much as I hate to admit)

yes,like fifa/madden and cod ghosts exclusivity amairite....

get real.

ps4 is more powerfull and simpler to work with.majority of next gen ports will be better on ps4.
 
I hope you don't think there's going to be some major difference in development cost between PS4 and Xbox games because the Xbox has a weaker GPU.
I don't. I had hoped since before the PS4 was unveiled that the two consoles would be a little bit conservative as far as power goes, focusing on innovative features and ease of development rather than trying to cram in bunches of expensive tech. It's quite expensive to turn a new IP into a definitive success these days, and games cost too much to develop and advertise as it is. I feel like we're in for a whole 'nother generation of me-too titles and sequels to said titles if and when visuals become the priority again.
 
Power is not going to make PS4 the top console (sales wise). Folks need to seriously stop perpetuating that myth.

That said, XOne has a whole slew of other problems that will make me purchase a PS4 to sit alongside my Wii U. You fucked up, MS.
 
Wasn't the biggest reason the 360 was leadplatform on so many multiplatform games because it was just easier to to develop for?

In large part, yes. But Sony built the PS4's architecture from the ground up with the help of developers, making it tailor-made for efficient game development. The days of horror while developing for PS3 are almost over.
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Perhaps I just didn't look close enough (or care enough to notice), but I didn't see anything from Sony's PS4 reveal that trumps anything we saw today. KZ4 looked nice, but I thought COD looked nice. What am I missing?

eyeballs, apparently.
 

vio

Member
I am starting to think, considering UE4 is multiplatform, we are not getting SVOGI in UE4 because of xBoxONE.
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Turn 10 confirmed on Twitter that it was not CG. That was video of the game running on the box.

It didn't feel genuine. Like EA's crap and everything else shown that wasn't CoD... smacked of bullshit.
 
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