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Oh, I know some might disagree with this but Eichiro Oda is one of the best when it comes to foreshadowing and revisiting previous plot points too. He even has most of the covers of One Piece chapters focusing on characters in the previous arcs.

They are then inserted back into the main plot and you don't feel that their inclusion is that jarring.

Not to mention Haki was hinted at way back before it was even referenced to by a character.
I'd say he does it better than Kubo or Kishimoto, but all the foreshadowing and revisiting previous plots doesn't get me at all, if the plot moves randomly and a snails pace.
 
I'm going to scream and yell if it turns out Naruto is still pining for Sakura after all this shit.

End this love triangle. Let Sakura go with Sauske and Hinata be with Naruto. She's the one he both needs and deserves.

Pretty much how I felt.

I mean, we're mere chapters after shit like THIS and now we get this jack ass acting like she's not even there again? Because apparently the 4th's a shipper and can't think of a better subject to ask his son about than "is this random female medic I know nothing about getting ya dick?!?".

W/e, Naruto can still want rude, loud/ useless girl trope number 40 if he wants (if he still wants that after all this stuff has happened than yeah, he doesn't really deserve Hinata). Hopefully this shit makes sense in the coming chaps cause this one seemed pretty light-hearted.
 
Pretty much how I felt.

I mean, we're mere chapters after shit like THIS and now we get this jack ass acting like she's not even there again? Because apparently the 4th's a shipper and can't think of a better subject to ask his son about than "is this random female medic I know nothing about getting ya dick?!?".

W/e, Naruto can still want rude, loud/ useless girl trope number 40 if he wants (if he still wants that after all this stuff has happened than yeah, he doesn't really deserve Hinata). Hopefully this shit makes sense in the coming chaps cause this one seemed pretty light-hearted.

Choked on water after reading this lol
 

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
Pretty much how I felt.

I mean, we're mere chapters after shit like THIS and now we get this jack ass acting like she's not even there again? Because apparently the 4th's a shipper and can't think of a better subject to ask his son about than "is this random female medic I know nothing about getting ya dick?!?".

W/e, Naruto can still want rude, loud/ useless girl trope number 40 if he wants (if he still wants that after all this stuff has happened than yeah, he doesn't really deserve Hinata). Hopefully this shit makes sense in the coming chaps cause this one seemed pretty light-hearted.

Wow, hahaha.

To be fair I think not even the current Hinata herself is as romantically inclined with Naruto as many of her fans would like to believe. Well, maybe that's just me though, but honestly I think "I want to be with him forever" is not Hinata's 'objective' right now, so to speak.

I'd say he does it better than Kubo or Kishimoto, but all the foreshadowing and revisiting previous plots doesn't get me at all, if the plot moves randomly and a snails pace.

One might say that the randomness of his plot makes him easier to foreshadow stuff. I mean, if he can insert BCDEFGHIJKLMN filler between A where the foreshadow happens and O where the thing it foreshadow appears, people would scream "OMG AMAZING!" although from B to N the plot is just mostly filler that has nothing to do with the larger main plot involving the foreshadows.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Pretty much how I felt.

I mean, we're mere chapters after shit like THIS and now we get this jack ass acting like she's not even there again? Because apparently the 4th's a shipper and can't think of a better subject to ask his son about than "is this random female medic I know nothing about getting ya dick?!?".

W/e, Naruto can still want rude, loud/ useless girl trope number 40 if he wants (if he still wants that after all this stuff has happened than yeah, he doesn't really deserve Hinata). Hopefully this shit makes sense in the coming chaps cause this one seemed pretty light-hearted.

Damn dog :lol
 
Pretty much how I felt.

I mean, we're mere chapters after shit like THIS and now we get this jack ass acting like she's not even there again? Because apparently the 4th's a shipper and can't think of a better subject to ask his son about than "is this random female medic I know nothing about getting ya dick?!?".

W/e, Naruto can still want rude, loud/ useless girl trope number 40 if he wants (if he still wants that after all this stuff has happened than yeah, he doesn't really deserve Hinata). Hopefully this shit makes sense in the coming chaps cause this one seemed pretty light-hearted.

See, initially, I kinda read it as a silly throwaway comment. Unless I'm reading too much into this, Naruto is very keenly aware that Sakura is head over heels in love with Sauske. It seems silly to continue dragging this thing out.

But yes. Sakura is usless and terrible. I'm not sure why Kishimoto continues to shove her down our throats. Even the anime team prefers Hinata (which is why she gets ridiculous amounts of screentime in openings and filler episodes).
 
I just read Naruto again and it was just as bad as the first time. sigh......

One thing though about Team 7 being back together. You know the next chapter will end with Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke preforming their summons at the same time. The last Page will be a splash page of them each on top of Frog, The Snake and The Slug with the words. "The Legendary Sannin Reborn!"

Fuck this manga.
 

Kusagari

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I mean, even during those chapters that showed what people thought was Naruto/Hinata there was nothing shown to make us really think Naruto thought anything of her romantically.

It's why I was laughing at people who thought stuff like that clinched a Naru/Hina ending.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
I just read Naruto again and it was just as bad as the first time. sigh......

One thing though about Team 7 being back together. You know the next chapter will end with Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke preforming their summons at the same time. The last Page will be a splash page of them each on top of Frog, The Snake and The Slug with the words. "The Legendary Sannin Reborn!"

Fuck this manga.

Fuck if they do bring back Bunta that would be worth it. Dude's a boss.
 

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
Man I love the reactions this Naruto's chapter provoke from people. Amazing.

If someone were to told Kishi about the reactions, I wonder what he would think. I am perfectly willing to bet he's just gonna laugh his ass off, hahaha.
 

Village

Member
Oh I am sure that what Kishi is planning is Sasuke contributing something to the fight so that he can escape death punishment (IIRC isn't this the fate of betraying Shinobi in Naruto's world?). But him as the Hokage? Nahhhhhhh.



You never know with Kishi, hahaha.

Tsunade? True she didn't join up with orochimaru, but she did just leave right?


Yo, read Abnormal-kei Joshi pretty intersting , sadly only chapters is there anything like it

Also quoting because I would like suggestions.
 
I just read Naruto again and it was just as bad as the first time. sigh......

One thing though about Team 7 being back together. You know the next chapter will end with Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke preforming their summons at the same time. The last Page will be a splash page of them each on top of Frog, The Snake and The Slug with the words. "The Legendary Sannin Reborn!"

Fuck this manga.

Didn't Sasuke kill Manda? He's using Hawks now, right?
 
See, initially, I kinda read it as a silly throwaway comment. Unless I'm reading too much into this, Naruto is very keenly aware that Sakura is head over heels in love with Sauske. It seems silly to continue dragging this thing out.

But yes. Sakura is usless and terrible. I'm not sure why Kishimoto continues to shove her down our throats. Even the anime team prefers Hinata (which is why she gets ridiculous amounts of screentime in openings and filler episodes).

Sakura is only usless and terrible because Kishimoto writes her that way. She has been shown that she had the potential be the most powerful female ninja in the series.. The only thing that stopped her is, Kishimoto's intense hatred of anyone with internal sex organs.
 

Stat Flow

He gonna cry in the car
One thing though about Team 7 being back together. You know the next chapter will end with Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke preforming their summons at the same time. The last Page will be a splash page of them each on top of Frog, The Snake and The Slug with the words. "The Legendary Sannin Reborn!"

No no man.

Naruto will be atop the Kyuubi. Sasuke will be on top of a giant hawk. And Sakura will be on top of a giant Kitchen.

A true Rebirth.
 
I might be the only OP reader who think that Shank's scaring that shark away is not Haki. Just the usual "strong people scaring the shit out of stuff" trope, and that Haki is something he just invented later.

For the recent great attempts of foreshadowing, I would like to nominate Shingeki no Kyojin.
I was thinking it more of Shank on Whitebeard's ship actually.
 

Village

Member
Sakura is only usless and terrible because Kishimoto writes her that way. She has been shown that she had the potential be the most powerful female ninja in the series.. The only thing that stopped her is, Kishimoto's intense hatred of anyone with internal sex organs.

That would be valid, but there are cool laides in naruto. Cool powerful ladies.

Sakura is just bad.
 

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
Tsunade? True she didn't join up with orochimaru, but she did just leave right?

Also quoting because I would like suggestions.

Well, Tsunade didn't actively try to destroy Konoha--or joining forces with entities wanting to achieve that--like Sasuke, and I never got the impression that she's "leaving" Konoha, no.

Didn't Sasuke kill Manda? He's using Hawks now, right?

Yep. In the infamous suddenly-got-enough-chakra-to-summon-Manda incident.

I was thinking it more of Shank on Whitebeard's ship actually.

Oh! I thought you were talking about the very beginning of manga. Many OP readers tend to agree that it was the first instance of Haki, although I disagree.

Hmmmm...., wait, I don't remember exactly but, isn't Haki a known quantity by the time Shank's whitebeard ship happened...? It's been a long while.
 
Myself while reading these Naruto responses on here:

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Bleach v 39
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Only one color, I think :( v39 was the start of the best part of this section of the Arrancar Saga and what not. Everyone being defeated and then all of a sudden Old Man Yama just being all epic with Ryujin Jakka shocking and amazing Ayon...and then the start of my second favorite fight in all of Bleach (Ichigo/Ulquiorra, Ichigo/Grimmjow). Rushing to read v40 soon.
 

Village

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Well, Tsunade didn't actively try to destroy Konoha--or joining forces with entities wanting to achieve that--like Sasuke, and I never got the impression that she's "leaving" Konoha, no.



Yep. In the infamous suddenly-got-enough-chakra-to-summon-Manda incident.

To be fair after the all the exposition dumps he has experienced, I would give him a pass.
 
Naruto
I wonder how many more years this has with each chapter prolonging the series...

A town where you live is still going?! I dropped it in favor of good ending. Has it gotten any better? I dropped it around chapter 170/
 
That would be valid, but there are cool laides in naruto. Cool powerful ladies.

Sakura is just bad.

The women in this manga are always shown to be inferior to their male counterparts.

Even the most powerful and useful woman, Tsunade is the weakest of the three sannin.
 

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
To be fair after the all the exposition dumps he has experienced, I would give him a pass.

Yeah... it's obvious that Kishi attempted to garner sympathy for Sasuke with stuff that happened.

But still, becoming a Hokage is just him acting stupid crazy, methinks.

Naruto
I wonder how many more years this has with each chapter prolonging the series...

A town where you live is still going?! I dropped it in favor of good ending. Has it gotten any better? I dropped it around chapter 170/

Never.

Man. Naruto would have been so much better if Kishi had decided to make Uchiha Madara a woman.

I'm serious here.

Then 10000000 MadaraxHarashima's fanfics are to be born.

Although.... Madara being a man wouldn't stop those people, I guess, hahaha.
 

Soriku

Junior Member
Bleach 538

I guess Kubo decided to forfeit the race for domination in JUMP. This chapter was awful. Hitsugaya, of all characters, has to be downgraded to just a normal swordsman with no bankai. I dont even want to read this anymore. Thats offensive and just a terrible move to make. What have I been reading Bleach for even. It was really only salvaged by Hisagi screentime and some epic Ichigo panels.

Hitsugaya lost his Bankai a while ago. But think of it this way: After this training he'll be a much better swordsman, and once he inevitably gets his Bankai back, he'll be even better than before! Yeah!
 
Damn all this Naruto talk is depressing.

I would laugh my ass off if Hinata realizes that Sakura is a threat to her romance and kills Sakura with a palm to the heart when she isn't looking.

It would be nice if Naruto ended around October 10th which is Naruto's bday.

That gives about 20 chapters to end the year.
 

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
Damn all this Naruto talk is depressing.

I would laugh my ass off if Hinata realizes that Sakura is a threat to her romance and kills Sakura with a palm to the heart when she isn't looking.

It would be nice if Naruto ended around October 10th which is Naruto's bday.

That gives about 20 chapters to end the year.

As a Naruto fan, I actually find the talks to be highly entertaining :D
 
Hitsugaya lost his Bankai a while ago. But think of it this way: After this training he'll be a much better swordsman, and once he inevitably gets his Bankai back, he'll be even better than before! Yeah!

Im hoping he gets it back or either a significantly altered and much improved Daiguren Hyorinmaru.
 
Monster Volume 11

"That's all I'm going to let you hear" oh god Johan is a master troll and master manipulator. Can't wait to see what he "finally realized" by listening to this tape
 
I can't help it. I'm an admitted shipper. It's a guilty pleasure. As soon as I first saw Hinata watching Naruto from behind the tree, I thought: "That's her. That's his waifu."

It doesn't help that Kishimoto doesn't seem to have ANY idea what he's doing with the heroine of his series. I'm at work so I can't look for it, but it seems like he's addressed this a few times in interviews. It's like he's completely clueless how to create a likeable female lead. Interestingly enough, most of his secondary female characters are pretty cool.

The one time I was really rooting for Sakura was when she was fighting Sasori with Elder Chiyo.
 

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
Meh, Hitsugaya is probably the most boring character in Bleach. And since it's Bleach, that means something indeed.

Too bad he got one of those popular-with-polls armor.

Come to think of it, not many mangakas dare to kill off/make disappear popular characters from their manga, huh. The only ones I can think of is Hikaru no Go and Rurouni Kenshin; the first caused the downfall of the manga and the latter the mangaka backpedals so hard it caused the earth to spun around.

I can't help it. I'm an admitted shipper. It's a guilty pleasure. As soon as I first saw Hinata watching Naruto from behind the tree, I thought: "That's her. That's his waifu."

It doesn't help that Kishimoto doesn't seem to have ANY idea what he's doing with the heroine of his series. I'm at work so I can't look for it, but it seems like he's addressed this a few times in interviews. It's like he's completely clueless how to create a likeable female lead. Interestingly enough, most of his secondary female characters are pretty cool.

The one time I was really rooting for Sakura was when she was fighting Sasori with Elder Chiyo.

You said this as if it's a bad thing :)

Really, people find enjoyment from manga due to various reasons. I, personally, wouldn't judge people if they find 'shipping' to be that reason.
 

Village

Member
The women in this manga are always shown to be inferior to their male counterparts.

Even the most powerful and useful woman, Tsunade is the weakest of the three sannin.

That is wrong. An example being that they kept hinting that hinata was far stronger than she let on. And Tsunade the weakest, man she lived the longest and has hulk strength. The hell are you talking about?
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
That is wrong. An example being that they kept hinting that hinata was far stronger than she let on. And Tsunade the weakest, man she lived the longest and has hulk strength. The hell are you talking about?

Just cause she lived the longest don't mean shit. It means she didn't fight Pain and Konan one-on-two.
 

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
That is wrong. An example being that they kept hinting that hinata was far stronger than she let on. And Tsunade the weakest, man she lived the longest and has hulk strength. The hell are you talking about?

And out of all the folks to prevent Pain kidnapped Naruto, it's Hinata that showed up.

True, she got defeated rather easily, but it's Pain so duh.

The war would have gone much, much differently if Pain managed to kidnap Naruto back then.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Konan is considered not that powerful and inferior? Sakura too, who took out Sasori?

Sakura had help, she would have died instantly if she fought alone. Konan wasn't shit compared to the rest of the team.

So we are discounting hulk strength? Apparently being literally the strongest woman isn't a strong factor anymore?

Jiriya had sage mode, same strength but with more speed.
 
I can't help it. I'm an admitted shipper. It's a guilty pleasure. As soon as I first saw Hinata watching Naruto from behind the tree, I thought: "That's her. That's his waifu."

It doesn't help that Kishimoto doesn't seem to have ANY idea what he's doing with the heroine of his series. I'm at work so I can't look for it, but it seems like he's addressed this a few times in interviews. It's like he's completely clueless how to create a likeable female lead. Interestingly enough, most of his secondary female characters are pretty cool.

The one time I was really rooting for Sakura was when she was fighting Sasori with Elder Chiyo.

I know how you feel. I always felt that Hinata genuinely liked Naruto for what he was even back then and while her shyness might have crippled her from acting on those feelings, she does care for him.

Then the Pain arc happened and I thought it was a done deal. But then with Kishi I shouldn't have thought that obviously.

If Naruto end up with Sakura all I'll feel is disappointment not that it matters as I dislike the manga anyways but at the same time there is that sympathy for Hinata.
 

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
Sakura had help, she would have died instantly if she fought alone. Konan wasn't shit compared to the rest of the team.



Jiriya had sage mode, same strength but with more speed.

...from a woman?

And I doubt many in Akatsuki can survive that technique Konan used against Madara. Well, not without a huge scratch, at the very least.
 

scy

Member
Toriko 234 - Ultimate Routine. Toriko doing a good job of trying to keep up the hype.

Because apparently the 4th's a shipper and can't think of a better subject to ask his son about than "is this random female medic I know nothing about getting ya dick?!?".

New favorite poster.
 
Monster 97

Grimmer has really grown on me as a character, his complex emotions and discussion about how he's never sure how to feel is really touching.

Also Lunge continues to be a clown hopefully his realization that he's an idiot happens really soon... or he dies, either way is happy with me.
 

Kusagari

Member
I think Konan's strength is downplayed a lot because of how easily Jiraiya beat her in her first appearance.

But it's hard to judge her strength when Kishimoto couldn't be bothered to give her a real fight outside of jobbing to Obito.
 
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