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[gofreak]

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/30549...ler-makes-an-appearance-at-the-fcc/index.html

So the significance of this is that it is a mark in the road towards a US launch. This is right about in time for a launch later this year in the US, based on historical comparisons at least. The PS3 controller first appeared at the FCC in May 2006, ahead of its holiday 2006 launch in the US.

No sign of the PS4 box yet - of course, Sony will be with-holding that until after E3, but I would guess it might appear shortly thereafter in FCC's database.

The confidentiality on photos/user manual etc. expires in November.

One other new note from the filing is the weight: 210g. This is slightly heavier than the DS3's 193g. Uses Bluetooth v2.1+EDR as specified.

 

[SirIgbyCeaser]

Does it have Mini USB or Micro USB at the front? I couldn't tell from the pics but it looked like mini.

 

[Man]

Peripheral is getting real.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

EDIT: Its definitely Mini Micro USB.

 

[Varth]

Its definitely Mini USB.

Seems micro to me.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Seems micro to me.

Yeah sorry. I mistyped it. It's Micro B.

 

[amstradcpc]

Whats the small hole next to the upper right screw hole?. An IR emitter?. The controller secret?...

 

[gofreak]

The report doesn't give much away about what kind of connection it uses, as far as I can see. The only mention of USB is this:

Not sure if that distinguishes the type being used.

 

[iNvid02]

Whats the small hole next to the upper right screw hole?.

maybe a reset button

 

[zerodayPopbot]

Whats the small hole next to the upper right screw hole?. An IR emitter?. The controller secret?...

Reset button I think.

 

[gofreak]

Whats the small hole next to the upper right screw hole?. An IR emitter?. The controller secret?...

DS3 is one of those too. It's just an empty indentation on DS3. Perhaps more relevant to the internal structure.

 

[PJV3]

DUMB QUESTION ALERT.

how difficult would it be to get the old DS3 to work with a PS4, Is it a bluetooth issue?

I'm sort of sad to get rid of the four I own, I wouldn't mind doing a cheap mod to keep them.

 

[Carl]

One other new note from the filing is the weight: 210g. This is slightly heavier than the DS3's 193g.

Good. Good.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

The report doesn't give much away about what kind of connection it uses, as far as I can see. The only mention of USB is this:

Not sure if that distinguishes the type being used.

It's definitely Micro. It was confirmed a while ago.

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130221b_e.pdf

 

[gofreak]

It's definitely Micro. It was confirmed a while ago.

Oh I see. I didn't know they'd gone into such detail before.

 

[Man]

It increased 27grams in weight. Secret Sauce!

 

[amstradcpc]

It increased 27grams in weight. Secret Sauce!

And the battery went from 1000 to 800 mA.

 

[Bluforce]

800 mA battery.

I just checked my Sixaxis (european), and it have a 30 mA battery.
My DualShock 3 (japenese white DS3) have a 300 mA.

Are those numbers correct?

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

It increased 27grams in weight. Secret Sauce!

Bigger battery, touchscreen, and sensor bar adds to it.

 

[DBT85]

DUMB QUESTION ALERT.

how difficult would it be to get the old DS3 to work with a PS4, Is it a bluetooth issue?

I'm sort of sad to get rid of the four I own, I wouldn't mind doing a cheap mod to keep them.

There should be no issue getting them to work, but Sony have apparently decided that they won't. Probably because of the touch and light bar options that won't be available.

It would have been nice to have some spares for Fifa nights but nm.

As for the DS4, the only question remains is what d-pad are they going for, the one they showed already or the vita one.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

800 mA battery.

I just checked my Sixaxis (european), and it have a 30 mA battery.
My DualShock 3 (japenese white DS3) have a 300 mA.

Are those numbers correct?

SIXAXIS DC 3.7V 30mA (UK launch, no rumble)

DUALSHOCK 3 DC 3.7V 300mA (Controller launch)
DUALSHOCK 3 DC 5V 500mA (Included with Slim PS3)
DUALSHOCK 3 DC 5V 500mA (Included with Mini PS3)

MOVE Navigation Controller 5V 500mA (Controller launch)
MOVE Motion Controller 5V 800mA (Controller launch)

DUALSHOCK 4 DC 5V 800mA (As per FCC)

Seems like its the same battery as Move Motion Controller.

 

[amstradcpc]

800 mA battery.

I just checked my Sixaxis (european), and it have a 30 mA battery.
My DualShock 3 (japenese white DS3) have a 300 mA.

Are those numbers correct?

Wow!. Rumble is a battery sucker!. No wonder Sixaxis was so light!.

 

[Man]

Bigger battery when compared to DS3 mainly due to Lightbar functionality I suspect.

 

[gofreak]

And the battery went from 1000 to 800 mA.

800 mA battery.

I just checked my Sixaxis (european), and it have a 30 mA battery.
My DualShock 3 (japenese white DS3) have a 300 mA.

Are those numbers correct?

Are those numbers not to do with power supply over usb?

Battery capacity is another matter, no?

 

[PJV3]

There should be no issue getting them to work, but Sony have apparently decided that they won't.

It would have been nice to have some spares for Fifa nights but nm.

As for the DS4, the only question remains is what d-pad are they going for, the one they showed already or the vita one.

Hopefully they will release cheaper secondary controllers without the bells and whistles, the new controller doesn't look cheap.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Bigger battery when compared to DS3 mainly due to Lightbar functionality I suspect.

I believe its easier for them to not use a random spec, and use the same battery as Move controller.

 

[KimonoNoNo]

I know it's been stated that a DS3 is not supported on PS4, but how likely is it that my usb wheel and fight stick will still work next gen.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

I know it's been stated that a DS3 is not supported on PS4, but how likely is it that my usb wheel and fight stick will still work next gen.

It may work. No one knows yet though. I have a feeling DS3 will also work with some convertor attached to it.

 

[Striek]

Are those numbers not to do with power supply over usb?

Battery capacity is another matter, no?

They are maximum power draw in use, not battery capacity.

 

[DBT85]

Hopefully they will release cheaper secondary controllers without the bells and whistles, the new controller doesn't look cheap.

Sony won't. 3rd parties might if Sony allow it.

But the controller doesn't look that expensive tbh. It's got a couple of LEDs behind light bar, a touch panel, a speaker and a headset jack.

To Sony these things are probably pennies.

 

[IonicSnake]

What about EU?

 

[mrklaw]

What about EU?

is there even an equivalent searchable database for the CE mark? I've not seen one.

 

[IonicSnake]

is there even an equivalent searchable database for the CE mark? I've not seen one.

I was wondering that myself.

 

[Little Old Man]

One other new note from the filing is the weight: 210g. This is slightly heavier than the DS3's 193g. Uses Bluetooth v2.1+EDR as specified.

Excellent. I was hoping the new design didn't add significantly to the weight- the low weight of the DS3 makes it very comfortable to hold for hours at a time.

 

[darkside31337]

Heavier than the DS3 is a total bummer. DS3 was the perfect weight shrug.

 

[wetflame]

Heavier than the DS3 is a total bummer. DS3 was the perfect weight shrug.

17g isn't that much. Hopefully the changes to the ergonomics of it all outweigh the added weight and it still feels comfortable.

 

[velociraptor]

What I like about the 360 controller is that it is made from good quality plastic. My 360 controller looks as good as new.

I hope the PS4 pad is similar. PS2/PS3 pad degrades after a few years of usage. It becomes super shiny.

 

[fluffydelusions]

That's really early to appear at FCC isn't it? Maybe we could see a fall release?

For mobile phones:

The minimum number of days between FCC approval and carrier release date is 37 days (1 month and 1 week). The maximum is 96 days (a bit over 3 months).

 

[Paracelsus]

I wonder how Micro hasn't been ruled illegal at this point. It's a flimsy piece of crap, good luck playing wired.

 

[glaurung]

I like that the PS Eye is so small. It is positively minute compared to the Kinect 2.0 fridge.

 

[M.D]

weight: 210g.

Xbox 360 controller

Weight

Wireless version (with batteries):

265 g / 9.35 oz

Wired version:

300 g / 10.6 oz

I wonder how much the new Xbox controller weighs? I'd bet about the same as the 360 (unless it needs more batteries?

 

[Interfectum]

It increased 27grams in weight. Secret Sauce!

It's rocket science, you wouldn't understand.

 

[Valkyr Junkie]

Funny, I replaced one of my dead DS3 batteries with one from DealExtreme and it's rated at 1800mAh.

Bluetooth v2.1 is a disappointment.

 

[pharmboy044]

Anyone know what the weight of 360 controller is in grams?

 

[Totobeni]

Xbox 360 controller

Weight

Wireless version (with batteries):

265 g / 9.35 oz

Wired version:

300 g / 10.6 oz

I wonder how much the new Xbox controller weighs? I'd bet about the same as the 360 (unless it needs more batteries?

this can't be right, there is just no way the wireless is lighter than the wired version.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Is there a standard headphone jack on it? Wondering if I can hook my sennheiser headphones to it.

 

[ascii42]

this can't be right, there is just no way the wireless is lighter than the wired version.

Wired version could be counting the cord.

 

[i-Lo]

I would really like to exchange the battery.

 

[netBuff]

Bluetooth v2.1 is a disappointment.

Why does it matter which version of the Bluetooth standard a controller uses? Isn't that pretty much completely irrelevant?

I wonder how Micro hasn't been ruled illegal at this point. It's a flimsy piece of crap, good luck playing wired.

I think the fact that modern mobile phones come with Micro connectors pretty much forces their hand: Staying with Mini would mean reduced flexibility in charging the controller for most people.

Funny, I replaced one of my dead DS3 batteries with one from DealExtreme and it's rated at 1800mAh.

Don't expect batteries from places like DE to be truthful in their stated capacity.

 

[Jedi2016]

Are you guys sure about the Micro-B connector? In the high-res photos they released, it looks like a Mini-B, the same type used on PS3. I don't want to have to buy new charging cables, dammit.