Hydrogen Bluebird
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Better than the PS4 conference?! What?!
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Rate Microsoft's Xbox One conference
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Better than the PS4 conference?! What?!
Karsticles
Member
At the risk of grossing myself out, this makes the console dangerous for me to own.
My wife and I have 2 cats and 2 dogs, and there is a large amount of hair that fluctuates around our apartment any given day regardless of how well I clean. Every month I have to gut the vents out on my PC, and I pull ~6 handfuls of fur out. The XBone would undoubtedly become a huge fur mat around my place.
SGRU
Member
What?
I mean, why do you think that? Did you saw something the rest of the Internet didn't?
-1 000 000 000/10
i was so exited about both of the consoles equally... to feel soooo disapointed after the MS presentation (it was not the case with the PS4 presentation)... Microsoft should just let this console cycle past without them and turn to de dvd/blue ray/tv player industry...
i was so exited about both of the consoles equally... to feel soooo disapointed after the MS presentation (it was not the case with the PS4 presentation)... Microsoft should just let this console cycle past without them and turn to de dvd/blue ray/tv player industry...
WeAreStarStuff
Member
Voted 3/10. Pretty terrible.
Winterfang
Banned
Rewatching the conference, there wasn't anything bad or cringeworthy about it. They show the console, the controller, the UI some third party games and two exclusives. One of them was a new ip. Call of Duty surprisingly was the best thing and I found the videos relative to it to be entertaining.
Everything outside the conference was a nightmare.
Everything outside the conference was a nightmare.
Probably the crowd from the back of the room that were cheering at everything. I dunno, I guess if you're really into television and multitasking Bing/Music/Movies/Games this was a great conference for everyone involved. I am puzzled though, as I doubt even the biggest fans would call this a perfect conference.
I give a 3/10 based on the little game stuff they did show (aside from CoD which is not my cup of tea).
Yea, the halo TV shit was bogus. I mean, xbots was tuning in but really ms? And the NFL licensing was melodramatic.
But the Skype, hardware, and kinect presentations was awesome. Not to mention that they announced 15 exclusives within the next year, 8 of which are new ips. Not to mention e3 is the second part of the reveal for tge software side like they always said. 1/10? Gtfo GAF.
My rating for an release event is quite directly related to it's information value in addition to entertainment value. I may not like everything I learn, but I value the information none the less. So, by showing the actual console and saying when it's available in Europe the Xbox One conference goes above PS4 one.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Microsoft just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about hardcore culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is with causals where you can become successful by not focusing on games. If you screw the hardcore over, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the hardcore public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Xbox One, nor will they purchase any of Microsoft's products. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Microsoft has alienated an entire market with their causal nonsense
Microsoft, publicly apologize and turn the Xbox One into a hardcore console or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about hardcore culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is with causals where you can become successful by not focusing on games. If you screw the hardcore over, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the hardcore public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Xbox One, nor will they purchase any of Microsoft's products. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Microsoft has alienated an entire market with their causal nonsense
Microsoft, publicly apologize and turn the Xbox One into a hardcore console or you can kiss your business goodbye.
So because we should assume its not a core game, we should just ignore the fact that it could possibly be an impressive lineup, thus it isn't variable? Even though all point to megaton games from rare and possibly crackdown 3? K
What I was actually saying is that they didn't actually announce any games. Thus rating them on a statistic that says nothing about the titles is weird. You know nothing about the scope of the titles. The franchises or developers involved. Or even if they are retail or smaller indie titles.
The statistic is meaningless if you think about it. It shouldn't have a positive or negative effect on the conference rating.
Haha, what?
Anyways, I gave it a 4/10.
It was pretty disappointing, but it wasn't end of the world bad. They acheived the hard job of making a worthwhile improvement over the 360 controller, Forza 5 at launch is fantastic news, graphics look proper next-gen, interface stuff is all pretty spiffy, ability to record stuff is good to hear. Content wise, it was worth a 5/10 I think, which still isn't very good, but I couldn't honestly say there weren't interesting things to see and having a next-gen unveiling was always going to be somewhat exciting.
Presentation was awfully dull, though. This drags the score down overall.
I can also give them a bit of credit for having a strategy to get this stuff out of the way now while showing the stuff WE want to see mostly at E3. Doesn't affect the score I gave it, but it affects my overall hype level of the new Xbox, meaning the conference wasn't a total disaster for me as it seems to be for most others.
Beautiful
weekend_warrior
Banned
You didn't even see the games yet, Also, this post is preposterous.
Do you really believe that ms have no games? Lol
Why blow its load at the reveal and not e3 three weeks from now?
I think this is the single best variation of that post yet. Bravo.
Also, 1/10 easily. The off base focus and revelation of multiple lethal to consumer rights policies they're continuing to further makes this an easy call.
Fake Charlemagne
Member
1/10 Would not watch again.
Seriously though it just seems like the audience that they're targeting with this thing is about as far removed from who I am as possible. I just want the thing to play some games. I don't give a shit about Kinect, their "experience," their ephemeral "content," the fact that I can buy movie tickets or some such shit, and I especially don't care about their premium TV shows. I tuned in for a console that plays games, and received zero gameplay footage from anything. But I sure got information about how I can talk to the damn thing, and how it's going to do a whole bunch of crap I never wanted a game console to do.
Seriously though it just seems like the audience that they're targeting with this thing is about as far removed from who I am as possible. I just want the thing to play some games. I don't give a shit about Kinect, their "experience," their ephemeral "content," the fact that I can buy movie tickets or some such shit, and I especially don't care about their premium TV shows. I tuned in for a console that plays games, and received zero gameplay footage from anything. But I sure got information about how I can talk to the damn thing, and how it's going to do a whole bunch of crap I never wanted a game console to do.
weekend_warrior
Banned
So we're at the point where showing games, for a games console, at the official televised reveal, is considered "blowing it's load"? That's like showing up for a first date in sweatpants.
MS could have easily showed short clips from half a dozen of these "megaton games" and gotten the buzz going before showing the real treasure chest at E3. It's not blowing your load, it's creating positive excitement and momentum leading up to E3 and the eventual console launch.
Meus Renaissance
Member
I actually like Microsoft's vision in offering you a games console that also acts as a media hub. If anything, it'll broaden its appeal across the market. The incorporation of Fantasy Football into live TV is a tremendous idea, although its execution in foreign markets begs serious questions.
The disappointment, however, comes from the fact that they showcased this before their games reveal. On top of that, they've reinforced suspicions of trying to kill the pre-owned games market.
The disappointment, however, comes from the fact that they showcased this before their games reveal. On top of that, they've reinforced suspicions of trying to kill the pre-owned games market.
Imp the Dimp
Member
I have very little sympathy with anyone who chooses to buy a next gen console over a gaming PC given the recent performances of the big three.
Neoriceisgood
Member
I called it a 2/10 after it just happened.
But after calming down a bit, letting my initial shock settle down and reflecting on it..
I realised it's a flat 1/10.
But after calming down a bit, letting my initial shock settle down and reflecting on it..
I realised it's a flat 1/10.
Rebel Leader
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I think this video fits:
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QuikZilver
Member
I don't care about not lending my games, not buying used games, or always online but if they are charging for online multiplayer I'm out. Everything else I liked.
7/10
7/10
Hip Hop
Member
They could have at the very least showed gameplay from the games they did announce like Quantum Break and Forza 5. It wouldn't have been as bad.
3/10 for me. It just did nothing to sway my interest in the machine. Too much focus on gimmicks and not enough on gaming. I understand that they say e3 is where we will be shown all the games, but they could at least have finished the conference with one exclusive game demo footage just to excite people.
Steverulez
Member
3/10.
It was rubbish, but im hopeful for Quantum Break, Forza 5 announcement and the 15 exclusives...
We got to see the box, the controller looks good and Kinect seems to be very powerful.
Im still not sure why they spent so long on COD though. Such a waste of time, I don't think it was wrong to show it, but for 10+ minutes, then to have the Ryse teaser site go up the next day.
Truly baffling.
It was rubbish, but im hopeful for Quantum Break, Forza 5 announcement and the 15 exclusives...
We got to see the box, the controller looks good and Kinect seems to be very powerful.
Im still not sure why they spent so long on COD though. Such a waste of time, I don't think it was wrong to show it, but for 10+ minutes, then to have the Ryse teaser site go up the next day.
Truly baffling.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
It's a meme, google "shot themselves in the foot".
xXxDieselxXx
Member
10/10 for the Tent
3/10 for the presentation
2/10 for the hardware look and design
3/10 for the presentation
2/10 for the hardware look and design
thesuperfunk
Member
wow ... to think i was generous giving it 2/10
KyleOnTheRun
Member
3/10
Godawful in almost every respect. Built up my anticipation to have it plummet when we didn't see a damn game for 33 MINUTES.
Fantasy Football, Skype, and HBO GO does not a console make. PS4 will have all the same entertainment apps and video services (TV-KINECT gimmick notwithstanding). Sony has something to prove this generation as the North American underdog. MS is pulling a repeat of what Sony started this generation with: undeserved confidence and thinking that everyone will buy your system out of mere brand loyalty.
In the last several months, I've seen Sony fight harder than any console manufacturer in history to win over gamers. Sony's backed into a comer and ready to fight. MS is the contender waving its arms in triumphant faux-confidence to a disenfranchised audience that is quickly running out of fucks to give.
Godawful in almost every respect. Built up my anticipation to have it plummet when we didn't see a damn game for 33 MINUTES.
Fantasy Football, Skype, and HBO GO does not a console make. PS4 will have all the same entertainment apps and video services (TV-KINECT gimmick notwithstanding). Sony has something to prove this generation as the North American underdog. MS is pulling a repeat of what Sony started this generation with: undeserved confidence and thinking that everyone will buy your system out of mere brand loyalty.
In the last several months, I've seen Sony fight harder than any console manufacturer in history to win over gamers. Sony's backed into a comer and ready to fight. MS is the contender waving its arms in triumphant faux-confidence to a disenfranchised audience that is quickly running out of fucks to give.
Dlacy13g
Member
I came away from the "conference" saying 7 out of 10...it did what they said it was going to do. show the system, have a few games and show how it works.
Post conference... MS gets a 2 out of 10 for the crazy mis-information that followed to all the questions that were asked.
Its a clear blunder on MS to not have the answers to some of these core quiestions about installing games, used games and connectivity. How did they not have a straight up standardized response ready that would leave no doubts and be clear? Shamefully bad PR job after the show.
Post conference... MS gets a 2 out of 10 for the crazy mis-information that followed to all the questions that were asked.
Its a clear blunder on MS to not have the answers to some of these core quiestions about installing games, used games and connectivity. How did they not have a straight up standardized response ready that would leave no doubts and be clear? Shamefully bad PR job after the show.
Version 3.0
Member
1/10
Maybe I'm not being fair, because I'm giving them that rating based on the whole clusterfuck, not just the conference itself, which was bad, but not any worse than many others. But their new vague-but-clearly-anti-consumer policies do not allow me to give them anything higher. I will not buy this, and I will actively discourage anyone who will listen from doing so as well.
Maybe I'm not being fair, because I'm giving them that rating based on the whole clusterfuck, not just the conference itself, which was bad, but not any worse than many others. But their new vague-but-clearly-anti-consumer policies do not allow me to give them anything higher. I will not buy this, and I will actively discourage anyone who will listen from doing so as well.
BattleMoose87
Member
1/10
Scott32020
Member
1/10
No chance of me buying it unless they remove the Kinect requirement. Failure. I was PSWii60 this gen - now probably only PS4. Wii U has a better shot of me buying it though (when its cheaper probably).
No chance of me buying it unless they remove the Kinect requirement. Failure. I was PSWii60 this gen - now probably only PS4. Wii U has a better shot of me buying it though (when its cheaper probably).
googleplex
Member
Oh man.. Can I change my answer from 1/10 to 0/10?
This "With the cloud, the Xbone is 40x more powerful then the 360"
Holy shit what a farce of a console.
This "With the cloud, the Xbone is 40x more powerful then the 360"
Holy shit what a farce of a console.
This....doesn't even fucking matter. Almost all mainstream media are talking about it positively and the hardcore of the hardcore are wigging out for no reason.Also, major nelson and other ms talking heads have stated that e3 will be the software showcase. Which makes sense. Because its so close to it. Why bitch and moan about that?
Three weeks from now games will be reveal if you like it or not. And I don't know about some of you but I'm excited for what they have to show.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
3/10
and thats only for the Halo tv show.
and thats only for the Halo tv show.
I'm taking the past few days into account. It's staggering, really. Look, most of us hate the TV-centric approach the conference went with. But this goes beyond that. The first rumours broke, what, at the start of February? Sony's conference was a week later. Since then new rumours about the console have come out almost every week. There was the Adam Orth fiasco. They've had 3 months to see the negativity surrounding, uh, everything. They've had 3 months to look at Sony's approach being entirely candid about the shortcomings of PS3, highly informative presentation, focus on games and the response that garnered. And they still seem clueless. We give Nintendo shit for not seeming to know what they're doing, but Jesus Christ, this is another level altogether.
Watch Cerny's portion of the Sony conference and just how much he told us, then compare it with the vapid nothingness presented by Mattrick et al. Not a single negative rumour was addressed and what they did give us was vague at best. "Here's one box to control the living room", they said. Except it'll only be available in North America at launch, doesn't replace your cable box, can't interface with DVR and uses HDMI-CEC to control channel switching which only the newest boxes support. "We have exclusive FIFA Ultimate Team content." What is it? With how focused the whole presentation was on the US surely now is as good a time as any to rope in some of Europe. "Here are some of the games, running on Xbox One, that are only possible because of Xbox One." Where? Those are (highly unimpressive) pre-rendered trailers. Are you guys even ready for this?
So then they decided to address all the negative shit after the conference. You'd think with 3 months they'd have some good answers for us. Nope. Every representative seemed to contradict the last. There's a used game fee, but there's no fee, but it'll be a small fee, now the fee is the full price of the game, but there's a paywall, then it's tied to your installation, then your profile, then your family can use the game on your profile, GameStop didn't know about it, but now they know how it'll work. This has been addressed by a Corporate Vice President, General Manager, multiple reps, official support account on Twitter, Director of Programming and President of Interactive Business. Not only do we still not fucking know, they're surprised by what the others are saying. Get your shit straight. "You have permission to play your game." Fuck off.
Then as soon as it was revealed that PS4 was (supposedly) a good deal more powerful the new company line was that Xbox One would "leverage" (I wish PR people would stop using this as a verb) the infinite powah of the cloud. Oh, so it's always online? No it isn't, but it is, it checks every 24 hours, Harrison is wrong, now he's right, we're still thinking about it, the whole console is designed around the new age of fast internet, but the internet isn't stable enough for OnLive or Gaikai, yet the cloud makes Xbox One 40x more powerful. So a console that isn't always online...offloads calculations to the cloud...once every 24 hours...making it 40x more powerful? What. Did I mention the large disregard for indie games, forced Kinect and installations? How will games activate when they eventually shut down the servers? How will infinite cloud power-enhanced games scale back for those with no internet connection? How does it work in the first place? What are some concrete examples? Why aren't game "journalists" asking these questions?
I just don't understand how they can be surprised by any of this. They have been asked most of these questions since February and said "Microsoft does not comment on rumour or speculation". Well, here we are at Microsoft's official event. Does Microsoft comment on features announced by their own staff at their own unveiling? "We still don't know. We'll let you know when we feel like it." They've clearly decided that they want to take this console in a direction that makes a closed platform even more closed by adopting the most anti-consumer policies gaming has ever seen, so yeah, people are probably going to ask how it works. Why put any faith in them when their entire gaming division has appeared this incompetent?
So every negative rumour came true (sometimes worse), even the implied ones about them being 6 months behind in development, and we're even more confused now than before the conference. Good job, Microsoft.
Xbox One / 10
Watch Cerny's portion of the Sony conference and just how much he told us, then compare it with the vapid nothingness presented by Mattrick et al. Not a single negative rumour was addressed and what they did give us was vague at best. "Here's one box to control the living room", they said. Except it'll only be available in North America at launch, doesn't replace your cable box, can't interface with DVR and uses HDMI-CEC to control channel switching which only the newest boxes support. "We have exclusive FIFA Ultimate Team content." What is it? With how focused the whole presentation was on the US surely now is as good a time as any to rope in some of Europe. "Here are some of the games, running on Xbox One, that are only possible because of Xbox One." Where? Those are (highly unimpressive) pre-rendered trailers. Are you guys even ready for this?
So then they decided to address all the negative shit after the conference. You'd think with 3 months they'd have some good answers for us. Nope. Every representative seemed to contradict the last. There's a used game fee, but there's no fee, but it'll be a small fee, now the fee is the full price of the game, but there's a paywall, then it's tied to your installation, then your profile, then your family can use the game on your profile, GameStop didn't know about it, but now they know how it'll work. This has been addressed by a Corporate Vice President, General Manager, multiple reps, official support account on Twitter, Director of Programming and President of Interactive Business. Not only do we still not fucking know, they're surprised by what the others are saying. Get your shit straight. "You have permission to play your game." Fuck off.
Then as soon as it was revealed that PS4 was (supposedly) a good deal more powerful the new company line was that Xbox One would "leverage" (I wish PR people would stop using this as a verb) the infinite powah of the cloud. Oh, so it's always online? No it isn't, but it is, it checks every 24 hours, Harrison is wrong, now he's right, we're still thinking about it, the whole console is designed around the new age of fast internet, but the internet isn't stable enough for OnLive or Gaikai, yet the cloud makes Xbox One 40x more powerful. So a console that isn't always online...offloads calculations to the cloud...once every 24 hours...making it 40x more powerful? What. Did I mention the large disregard for indie games, forced Kinect and installations? How will games activate when they eventually shut down the servers? How will infinite cloud power-enhanced games scale back for those with no internet connection? How does it work in the first place? What are some concrete examples? Why aren't game "journalists" asking these questions?
I just don't understand how they can be surprised by any of this. They have been asked most of these questions since February and said "Microsoft does not comment on rumour or speculation". Well, here we are at Microsoft's official event. Does Microsoft comment on features announced by their own staff at their own unveiling? "We still don't know. We'll let you know when we feel like it." They've clearly decided that they want to take this console in a direction that makes a closed platform even more closed by adopting the most anti-consumer policies gaming has ever seen, so yeah, people are probably going to ask how it works. Why put any faith in them when their entire gaming division has appeared this incompetent?
So every negative rumour came true (sometimes worse), even the implied ones about them being 6 months behind in development, and we're even more confused now than before the conference. Good job, Microsoft.
Xbox One / 10