Maybe at first, but if Gamers nut up and not say one thing and then bitch and moan when they do another pubs will shift where the money is. Vita isn't a bad system but those shiny exclusives are on 3ds for a reason.
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MCV: Retail sources talk used Xbox One games, £35 for used game in UK [U2: Eurogamer]
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Maybe at first, but if Gamers nut up and not say one thing and then bitch and moan when they do another pubs will shift where the money is. Vita isn't a bad system but those shiny exclusives are on 3ds for a reason.
Nope. Can't give them away, can't lend them out, can't do shit with them, except throw them at MS executives heads.
WrenchNinja
Member
They shouldnt.
Not necessarily the same people, but yes, lots of people will be there day one.
Boy Wander
Member
There HAS to be more to this than has been revealed so far. It just doesn't make sense. If I were a retailer and what people are speculating is actually true, I'd push PS4 and Wii U to the hilt and relegate XBone to the back corner of my store. The majority of games machines are sold at retailers so retailers still carry a lot of clout so I can't believe there isn't more to this or the information we have so far is somehow inaccurate.
twisteddeeds
Member
It looks like $5 for a new high demand game.
Look at my girlfriends set up. She has an xbox 360 for games and Netflix / hulu , she had a cable box dvr for cable and she has a bluray player for that.
IF she wants to play a game with me she has to switch inputs to the right device. But if she has an xbox one I can simply send her an invite while she is watching bates motel and then she can just hop right int othe game.
That is a nice feature and its a product that doesn't exist.
I rarely buy used, but this is pretty disgusting and will destroy a lot of liquidity in the market. Short-sighted loons.
The thing is, it's being driven by the big boys. Do you think EA gives two shits if people stop buying anything non-AAAA? If the middle class disappear completely, but BF achieves a 40 percent increase in revenue, EA is happy. Their market share increases.
Anyone who understands economics knows this isn't going to grow the revenue pie. That's an absurd and naive notion. But it's going to redistribute an even greater percentage of revenue to the Haves. And honestly, I'm not sure MS even cares about anything besides AAAA games these days. So they probably feel good about helping EA/Activision on this issue.
LOL, the hero we need.
Exclusive COD maps be worth your soul man. Who has time to wait a month?
what!!! really?
maquiladora
Member
Or they could reign back budgets for games. Not every game has to be a huge AAA games with tens of millions of dollars in the budget and over 500 people working on it. B tier games are still enjoyable and then those sales that Tomb Raider got wouldn't be considered a disappointment.
Hellsing321
Member
Yep. Prices of used games (and by extension new games) will stay higher longer. And digital prices won't be any better because Microsoft wouldn't want to piss off retailers anymore than they already are.
MikeE21286
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I've seen this $5 number discussed/mentioned many times in this thread. I don't see that in the article though anywhere?
Meus Renaissance
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Even at 10%, the margin is so low i'm not sure why retailers would bother stocking the hardware at all. If game-centric retailers in the US and in Europe came to an agreement to reject Xbox One, it would see this entire policy reversed over night.
They were fined because they violated the terms of a previous agreement with the EU. And that agreement was in response to a perceived abuse of monopoly power.
Selling games as an account-based unlock has been happening for years on a massive scale already, and the EU hasn't stepped in. If anything, allowing those account-based rights to be resold back to platform holder is a step up compared to Steam, iOS and all the other stores out there.
anexanhume
Member
Remember that custom blu ray drive? I bet it's not just reading the bottom of the disc...
If your girlfriend had a HTPC or a ps3 she could do most of that already. The cable integration wouldn't be as smooth, but other than that?
ConfusedCat
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its being smashed on twitter by analysts. All of them are changing to SELL
Yoda
Member
I'm in shock after reading this thread. Some of you will so blindly defend a company despite the fact said company is behaving in an anti-consumer way... Guess what? YOU ARE A CONSUMER. Anything that tries to artificially inflate the revenue intake from used-game sales will lower your purchasing power in the market. They aren't doing it to squeeze more money into developer budgets they are doing it for their shareholders. Everyone, Microsoft and Sony fanboys a like should be up in arms with these changes.
Delusibeta
Banned
£3.50 profit to the retailer would translate to about $5.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Huh? It's completely different! The only similarity is you being able to hand your game over to a Gamestop clerk.
Makes sense? MAKES SENSE?
What the fuck are you thinking?
If this is true, I won't be able to sale my game PRIVATELY to a friend, in a forum... or to the store who offers MORE MONEY FOR ME.
If this is true, I won't be able to lend MY GAME, MY GAME, THE ONE I BOUGHT WITH MY OWN MONEY to my friends for the time I want.
Are you kidding me? I know you like X360, but this is RIDICULOUS!!!
Not mentioning this is IMPOSSIBLE here in my country, where there aren't BIG RETAILERS... maybe one or two bigger than the others, but A LOT of small videogames stores who buy used games (and compete between them).
What the fuck are you thinking?
If this is true, I won't be able to sale my game PRIVATELY to a friend, in a forum... or to the store who offers MORE MONEY FOR ME.
If this is true, I won't be able to lend MY GAME, MY GAME, THE ONE I BOUGHT WITH MY OWN MONEY to my friends for the time I want.
Are you kidding me? I know you like X360, but this is RIDICULOUS!!!
Not mentioning this is IMPOSSIBLE here in my country, where there aren't BIG RETAILERS... maybe one or two bigger than the others, but A LOT of small videogames stores who buy used games (and compete between them).
Publishers are playing hard to push their agenda on MS and Sony too I bet. Hopefully retailers get together and try to fight off some of their scare tactics.
Uno Venova
Banned
Terrible.
Meus Renaissance
Member
GameStop President is right now probably running to read the Microsoft FAQ, such is how little he apparently knows
The EU is kinda slow but they're looking into stuffs like Steam right now.
I don't know if they have an incentive, though. If they've all colluded to just share the consumer's cut, is Gamestop really losing anything? It's not like customers can sell on Ebay if they don't like getting 5 bucks for their tradein.
If most people don't share games as you say, why does MS and publishers make a big deal out of this?
ConfusedCat
Banned
Analysts view on Azure thing
"Daniel Ernst ‏@danielhsqr 1m
@firstadopter sounds complicated, prone to error. Silver lining for $GME they have cust reg process already in stores, not so much $BBY $WMT"
"Daniel Ernst ‏@danielhsqr 1m
@firstadopter sounds complicated, prone to error. Silver lining for $GME they have cust reg process already in stores, not so much $BBY $WMT"
Like another guy said in a different thread, it's pretty sad how instead of being excited for the new consoles, we're trying to figure out how much we're getting bent over. No doubt the Xbox One is going to sell like hotcakes at launch, but I hope once the masses realise the bullshit that is occuring that it'll bomb. Last thing we want is for all of MS's insane ideas to become popular :|
Kun Aguero
Member
Higher prices = less sales. I can't wait for the likes of EA to start squealing about sales figures if this goes tits up.
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
I still don't get the £35 figure, I pay that for brand new 360 games right now.
This sounds like gun laws for video games. I'm all for developers get a cut of the used sale but fuck, if my nephew wants to borrow a game or I want to pass it down to him is there a system in place for that? I like to use services such as Gamefly and Redbox so how will that work. I really want to be reactive and say "Fuck you Micro$haft!" but we really need to see if Sony goes the same way. If they do, this is the new future, if they don't Microsoft may have an up hill battle with retailers like Amazon.
I haven't read the whole thread yet but aren't there some regulatory concerns in the US about restricting resale?
I haven't read the whole thread yet but aren't there some regulatory concerns in the US about restricting resale?
Doesn't the EU expressly forbid this
Essentially what MS are doing is artificially limiting the resell market due to their dominant position. You can only resell your copy in the establishments we allow. My right to sell is being limited by MS. As long as no longer have access to the game once I've sold it, then it's nothing to do with MS.
Essentially what MS are doing is artificially limiting the resell market due to their dominant position. You can only resell your copy in the establishments we allow. My right to sell is being limited by MS. As long as no longer have access to the game once I've sold it, then it's nothing to do with MS.
EdibleExplosives
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Lol at £35, fucking hell.
ConfusedCat
Banned
This destroys the rare game mentality right?
like we won't have an Xbone chronotrigger or earthbound in 30 years
like we won't have an Xbone chronotrigger or earthbound in 30 years
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