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MS marketing director: "We are going to kill Sony at E3!"

I'd consider co-funding development as different from buying exclusivity.

Basically:
Spending money for games to exist = good
Spending money for games not to exist (on specific platforms) = bad

I really would have thought we could all agree on this point.

That's probably the best and simple way of putting it.

MSFT has lots of money and has always bought success. I think this may ultimately hurt gaming if they continue the way it's going.
 
Yes but PS3 multiplats suffered because it was difficult to develop for, not because it was powerful. PS4 is easy to develop for, and has an even greater power advantage. It will almost certainly have the better multiplats.

The Xbox was easier than ps2, and more powerful. It wasn't a noticeable difference. Digital foundry will see it and no one else. People acting like there will generational difference between the two are wrong. Will they look better? Probably. Will anyone besides message board console warriors pointing to checked boxes care? Nope.
 
It's not even that though. They're going to develop with the lowest common denominator in mind. Even if the PS4 versions do have better textures and framerate, it's nothing the mainstream would immediately notice.

Not if the gap is at Bayonetta level which can totally happen multiple times. Bayonetta is the simultaneously released multiplatform mainstream game with the highest ratio of XBOX360 sales, 1 copy every 2 PS3 ones (100000 vs 200000).
 
PS fans are admitting the PS3 is not more powerful than the 360?

Overall it probably is, if the cpu and spe's are properly utilised. But obviously it's more laborious to do on the development side, which is why early on it was mainly only the first parties that made the best use of them.
 
Not if the gap is at Bayonetta level which can totally happen multiple times. Bayonetta is the simultaneously released multiplatform mainstream game with the highest ratio of XBOX360 sales, 1 copy every 2 PS3 ones (100000 vs 200000).

See, that's because the PS3 port was flat-out shitty. I don't think Xbone ports will be ~20fps while Sony will flaunt 60fps.
 
Like they didn't last generation?

Well I don't think X1 is as complicated to develop for as PS3 was but you may be right with the better dev tools and power advantage for PS4. All I'm saying is that if the 2 versions are identical it's not because MS "made them do it". As for PS4 versions being better that's cool as I'll have one by default. It's MS that I'm suspicious of.
 
Nope, no proof. Sony did not buy their way into the industry at all.

So the only reason you think Sony money hatted these games is because they stopped getting releases for the Saturn? Even when in many cases the Saturn is the only platform they dropped? How does that make sense?

I just don't see why Sony would go out of their way to make games not get released for the Saturn, a platform that was already failing anyway while allowing other ports?
 
That would be a monopolistic amount of money hat. All ea games exclusive for 6 months ! That ex cod game sounds like it would be their top game moneyhatted, if its anything like cod i personally dont care, others will. I do wonder if gaf would hold their ground or give in and forget the whole drm, no used game, always kinect problems and overlook them. Interesting
 
Is there any evidence at all leading people to believe that Respawns game is going to be XBone exclusive? Or is that just speculation at this point since Destiny is running their ad campaign promoting the PS4 and both games are being published by Activision?
 
Shouldn't you and everyone else be happy that any company is willing to spend $1 Billion on making games?

I don't know ask Quantic Dream.

You don't see a difference between financing and partnering with a smaller studio compared to essentially paying to remove a game from another platform?

A good comparison for the Sony-Quantic Dream partnership would be Microsoft-Remedy, and I don't think anyone is complaining, both partnerships seem to be very good for all partners involved.

I'd LOVE for Microsoft to spend money on similar partnerships - and their internal studios.

But for them to pay to actually keep COD away from PS4? Do you really think that's a similar situation?
 
I really hope MS don't show anything great, otherwise it'll make my console of choice for next gen, a lot harder..

This is exactly how I feel regarding MS. So far everything has been going the way of the PS4 for me so if Microsoft shows something truly revolutionary and maybe fixes some of the screw ups it's done so far - it's going to be tough deciding.
 
Is there any evidence at all leading people to believe that Respawns game is going to be XBone exclusive? Or is that just speculation at this point since Destiny is running their ad campaign promoting the PS4 and both games are being published by Activision?

Several reliable people have said as much - it's at least a timed deal.
 
People expecting a big difference in graphics between the two are going to be disappointed. Everything with a decent budget behind it is going to look fucking amazing.
 
Is there any evidence at all leading people to believe that Respawns game is going to be XBone exclusive? Or is that just speculation at this point since Destiny is running their ad campaign promoting the PS4 and both games are being published by Activision?

I came here to post something similar - though I think Respawn's new game is actually being published by EA. But according to Respawn's own website they say multi-platform for their next game? http://www.respawn.com/games/
 
The decision of which console you'l buy can only be hard if you've already made up your mind.

Let wait to see what E3 offers. MS seems pretty confident of their lineup. Sony has a long history of lets be honest, piss-poor launch lineups.

But they could very well bring the heat this time. E3 should be magnificent.
 
If Sony would have came out and said this, GAF would be all up in arms praising Sony with Kaz gifs...

Sony has the number of first party developers behind them and the console reveal reception to support this. They showed multiple exclusive launch window titles and have a lot more studios than MS. MS doesn't have a history of a lot of AAA first party IPs, nor did their console reveal instill confidence in their game library. They're the ones that have to prove something, and boasting like this doesn't do that.
 
TBH if MS has the next Rockstar game as an exclusive or even GTA5, then they got me by the balls. I'd gladly bend over despite online DRM if the Xbone is <$399
 
People expecting a big difference in graphics between the two are going to be disappointed. Everything with a decent budget behind it is going to look fucking amazing.

I think you are underestimating the hardware difference between the consoles. There is seriously no logical reason why the PS4 version won't look and run much better other than the developer deliberately gimps the version to not hurt Xbone's feelings.. Any game that can scrap 30fps on Xbone should be running 60 on PS4 flawlessly.
 
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