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[Gowans]

I was playing the Castlestorm demo on XBLA yesterday and I had loads of fun with it but as there is no BC I'm limiting my XBLA purchases and not buying it.

I did think to myself tho, if they did bring some of the key XBLA games to the Xbone over with new compatible versions (probably the ones with PC ports already) and said you buy once you have both it would be enough to get my back in.

I can't see Pinball FX, Minecraft etc been left on the table of this gen surely.

What do you guys think? And what would the downloadable games be you think would see a reimergance?

 

[MrDaravon]

I see this happening for bigger titles, but at least on Xbox there is zero chance of you getting the new version for free if you already have the old version (wasn't sure if that's what you meant?).

I full imagine they'll "enhance" some of them and port them over to the new system, but they will be new purchases.

 

[Karuto]

You could, I dunno, keep your Xbox 360. No reason to limit yourself then.

 

[abstract alien]

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[PolarGamer]

I'm in the same boat as OP. At least some titles with cross play on PS Vita and PS3 makes sense in buying.

Some huge discounts towards launch will probably make me buy stuff for the 360 as well. Problem is my backlog is huge enough as it is.

 

[Storm360]

I doubt it will on Xbox side, definitely with Sony based on PS3/Vita

 

[uncleniccius]

I was playing the Castlestorm demo on XBLA yesterday and I had loads of fun with it but as there is no BC I'm limiting my XBLA purchases and not buying it.

I did think to myself tho, if they did bring some of the key XBLA games to the Xbone over with new compatible versions (probably the ones with PC ports already) and said you buy once you have both it would be enough to get my back in.

I can't see Pinball FX, Minecraft etc been left on the table of this gen surely.

What do you guys think? And what would the downloadable games be you think would see a reimergance?

Sony have announced 3 way cross buy for one of their downloadable games, but I doubt this kind of thing will happen to titles that have been out for a while.

 

[JoshHood]

There are already-announced PS3/Vita/PS4 games published by Sony that I fully expect to be cross-buy over the gen. They've seen people happy about having a backlog already on day one of picking up a Vita, so likely wanna duplicate that.

 

[Tnetennba]

As long as it's making money I'd imagine Microsoft will want Minecraft there to squeeze as much as they can from it. At the same time why give somebody something for nothing when you can make them pay for it twice? It seems far more likely that we'll see Sony implementing something like this on a broad scale if either of them are going to do it.

 

[EagleEyes]

I'm curious to see if the whole Xbox 360 mini rumor holds out to be true or not concerning BC. With the Xbox One having 3 wifi direct radio signals it could lend truth to the rumor of the mini being able to send a direct signal to the Xbox One.

 

[itxaka]

Another reason to buy our arcade games in the PC. Seriously, there is no reason but for exclusives to buy it on consoles.

 

[Basileus777]

It'd make sense to port some of those titles over to next gen. I hope we see it.

 

[RibbedHero]

Another reason to buy our arcade games in the PC. Seriously, there is no reason but for exclusives to buy it on consoles.

Yep, if you want cross generational purchases buy on PC.

 

[drgambit]

My question is this: Does backwards compatibility equal emulation?

PS3 is a major example of this, certain first gen systems were backwards compatible with the PS2, due to hardware being on the machine to make the necessary work. However, now PS2 games are digital and can be emulated on the system without all the necessary hardware.

You would have to think that somewhere down the road there will be some type of emulation for the Xbone/PS4.

 

[Monkeylord]

Well, there's already some XBLA games available on the Win8 Store (Pinball FX2, Skulls of the Shogun), and they haven't made them cross compatible, despite being under the Xbox brand (I'd love to see my PBFX tables that I've bought on Live appear in my Win8 list).

Alas, I think it's a pretty good indicator that they're not interested in allowing cross compatibility.

 

[web01]

Seems possible, a very good way to make people feel invested in next gen consoles with their current gen game purchases.

 

[goomba]

Will be amusing to see all the people who buy a xbone or ps4 oblivious that it wont play their existing games . may even cause mass returns ?

 

[Cryolemon]

Will be amusing to see all the people who buy a xbone or ps4 oblivious that it wont play their existing games . may even cause mass returns ?

I think it's fairly widely known that there's no backwards compatibility.

 

[Kyoufu]

Will be amusing to see all the people who buy a xbone or ps4 oblivious that it wont play their existing games . may even cause mass returns ?

It's 2013. People use Google frequently.

 

[goomba]

It's 2013. People use Google frequently.

So why did so many think wii u was a wii addon?

 

[MrT-Tar]

I can see Microsoft (and maybe Sony) following Nintendo's lead in offering enhanced versions of downloadable games for a reduced price, if one has already purchased them the gen before.

However, I accept and don't mind Nintendo doing it, as one can still play all their downloaded Wii games on the WiiU (just via a separate menu). On XB1 and PS4, where one doesn't have that liberty, I don't think people will be quite as accepting.

 

[Gowans]

Well, there's already some XBLA games available on the Win8 Store (Pinball FX2, Skulls of the Shogun), and they haven't made them cross compatible, despite being under the Xbox brand (I'd love to see my PBFX tables that I've bought on Live appear in my Win8 list).

Alas, I think it's a pretty good indicator that they're not interested in allowing cross compatibility.

Yeah the sad thing is I think you're right.

Game room was also a huge step in the wrong direction for that stuff, should have worked on all.

With Sonys cross play and iOS stuff on iPhone to iPad & steams PC/Mac/Linux you would hope they would jump on board now.

 

[Kintaro]

It's 2013. People use Google frequently.

Not as much as you think. I deal with people who don't know that current PS3s aren't BC with PS2 games. When you move past the super hardcore buyers, you assume the rest know nothing and get ready to educate.

 

[Kyoufu]

Not as much as you think. I deal with people who don't know that current PS3s aren't BC with PS2 games. When you move past the super hardcore buyers, you assume the rest know nothing and get ready to educate.

That's pretty sad. You'd think people would Google something like that on their smartphones/tablets/computers these days.

Shouldn't be a problem though since they made it clear there is no BC at the reveal, whereas PS3 had BC originally.

 

[Rolf NB]

Best-case scenario, games that use a major engine that is going to be ported anyway, and do everything in the context of that engine (i.e. no hardware specific custom code) could be offered as cross-gen dealios with the same assets in bumped up resolution.

The porting cost for, say, Unreal Engine 3, Unity, PhyreEngine etc would be entirely on the engine vendor. Depending on licensing details (engine+platform), a studio would have to do little more than recompile existing code on top of a new, already ported engine release.

I doubt we will be seeing much of this though.

 

[MasLegio]

I would like The Last Guy to be playable on the PS4. Would be a shame if that game was forgotten

 

[Gorki247]

Well, there's already some XBLA games available on the Win8 Store (Pinball FX2, Skulls of the Shogun), and they haven't made them cross compatible, despite being under the Xbox brand (I'd love to see my PBFX tables that I've bought on Live appear in my Win8 list).

Alas, I think it's a pretty good indicator that they're not interested in allowing cross compatibility.

Skulls of the Shogun has the Skull Anywhere mode which is a cross compatible multiplayer mode between XBLA, Win 8/RT and WP8. You could also get is a discounted package price during launch.

 

[Monkeylord]

Skulls of the Shogun has the Skull Anywhere mode which is a cross compatible multiplayer mode between XBLA, Win 8/RT and WP8. You could also get is a discounted package price during launch.

Limited offer isn't really the same though, and "cross compatibility" was a poor choice of words on my part. Sorry.

What I meant was, You can't (outside of the launch offer) buy SotS on XBLA and also play it on win8. They even get listed as separate titles. Same with PinballFX2. Shows up as a separate title and all the tables I've bought on XBLA don't show up in Win8.