Friends are not constrained to those who live near me. Digital sharing would erase those distances.
Not to mention you can't play the (single-player) game while a friend does as well.
Friends are not constrained to those who live near me. Digital sharing would erase those distances.
Then design a system that doesn't fuck over 30% of your existing customer base while tethering 100% of your new customer base to internet checks.
This likely will be implemented later on as a feature requiring the online check in. But as an OPTIONAL FEATURE it represents a much more valuable proposition.
This likely will be implemented later on as a feature requiring the online check in. But as an OPTIONAL FEATURE it represents a much more valuable proposition.
You guys make it sound like you can't share games anymore, just lend your physical copy to your friend.
Never forget...
Yeah, nothing was confirmed but Major Nelson basically confirmed only one person could play one game at a time(which is also the only reasonable way this could work); doesn't sound that great to me. Well whatever, that's all in the past now anyway, and no drm, games being bought and resold = a win for the majority, yessssssssss.This was NEVER going to work like people imagined it.
Wait a second. MS cancels DRM and people start cancelling XB1 preorders?
Can someone tell me why MS couldn't have just allowed people to opt out of always online and forfeit their sharing abilities? Why all or nothing?
Can someone tell me why MS couldn't have just allowed people to opt out of always online and forfeit their sharing abilities? Why all or nothing?
Never forget...
Because the family sharing plan was complete and total bullshit.
People may have friends online but most of the people we know/meet/spend time with are people in the same geographic vicinity. Where we work, play, school and live. This picture is stretching things.
Can't shake the feeling that people who wouldn't have bought the console in the first place destroyed the console that I wanted.
You guys make it sound like you can't share games anymore, just lend your physical copy to your friend.
They could have still theoretically implemented this on digital only games. It's a shame they chose to just drop it completely.
Family-Plan GAF, you're looking at this the wrong way - customer backlash just succeeded in getting MS to backpedal on most of their DRM policies in record time, so there's no reason to think that you can't keep the pressure on and get them to rethink the total removal of the Family Plan. They've already backpedaled once in less than a month, plenty of months left to get them to backpedal again.
Yeah, it's a bummer.
Honestly, they should have kept family sharing with digital purchases. It would give people an actual incentive to buy digital rather than retail without alienating retailers.
I'd rather have no family sharing than their old policies, but no denying this is a bummer.
Family-Plan GAF, you're looking at this the wrong way - customer backlash just succeeded in getting MS to backpedal on most of their DRM policies in record time, so there's no reason to think that you can't keep the pressure on and get them to rethink the total removal of the Family Plan. They've already backpedaled once in less than a month, plenty of months left to get them to backpedal again.
Never once had any of the issues that the PS4 part of the picture brings up. Most of my friends I live close to. As do most other people. People may have friends online but most of the people we know/meet/spend time with are people in the same geographic vicinity. Where we work, play, school and live. This picture is stretching things.
That picture is/was a sad attempt at mocking the excellent PS4. Excellent, in fact, by the way the MS crumbled like a house of cheap cards by folding in on their plan in gaming.
What kind of company has so little confidence in their product/features that they remove them and copy their competitor? It's pretty spineless imo and they get not respect from me for it.
This is true for the people in my area. Well I can't blame Microsoft for back pedaling after the, mostly biased, outcry.The most vocal people I was seeing on my Facebook feed were people that I know for a fact have never owned an Xbox or Xbox 360.
indeed. could have been a selling point for the digital version.
so naive, so young.
Sony tried a similar plan and you know what happened ?
Third parties were angry, so Sony cancelled it.
Because the family sharing plan was complete and total bullshit.
This likely will be implemented later on as a feature requiring the online check in. But as an OPTIONAL FEATURE it represents a much more valuable proposition.
Never once had any of the issues that the PS4 part of the picture brings up. Most of my friends I live close to. As do most other people. People may have friends online but most of the people we know/meet/spend time with are people in the same geographic vicinity. Where we work, play, school and live. This picture is stretching things.
That picture is/was a sad attempt at mocking the excellent PS4. Excellent, in fact, by the way the MS crumbled like a house of cheap cards by folding in on their plan in gaming.
What kind of company has so little confidence in their product/features that they remove them and copy their competitor? It's pretty spineless imo and they get not respect from me for it.
That's my take.. A distraction that was never intended to be implemented how they talked about it.
Family-Plan GAF, you're looking at this the wrong way - customer backlash just succeeded in getting MS to backpedal on most of their DRM policies in record time, so there's no reason to think that you can't keep the pressure on and get them to rethink the total removal of the Family Plan. They've already backpedaled once in less than a month, plenty of months left to get them to backpedal again.
Even if only one person could have played at one time it still would have been great.
Everyone has 20 games they havent touched in a year.
My Xbox live "group"
California, Georgia, Utah, Florida
You're totally right, lets just start an inter-continental Fed-ex account and share, thats way easier
My thoughts exactly. This was pretty much Bone's only advantage over the PS4. It was more secure for devs, and it gave users muc greater flexibility in accessing/sharing their content. Now that it's dead, the Bone is no different (except being less powerful) than PS4.
Now I can't install all my games, and play them without the disc. BUY DIGITAL
Now I can't access all my games from whatever Bone I'm logged into. BUY DIGITAL
Now I can't digitally share my library with my friends, and they can't share theirs. NOW YOU'RE FRIENDS CAN SHARE THEIR GAMES WITH UNLIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITHOUT NEED OF GOLD AND NO OTHER RESTRICTION UNLESS THEY LACK ANY FAMILY OR FRIEND NEAR THEM
To whomever helped to effect the changes in policy above, fuck you.
To MS, for not adequately communicating the advantages of these forward-thinking policies, having such a muddied message in the first place, and for spinelessly giving in to pressure, not even trying to come up with a compromise, triple-fuck you.
Edit: I dub thee, Xbox One, to be forever called... Xbox 180.
Never once had any of the issues that the PS4 part of the picture brings up. Most of my friends I live close to. As do most other people. People may have friends online but most of the people we know/meet/spend time with are people in the same geographic vicinity. Where we work, play, school and live. This picture is stretching things.
That picture is/was a sad attempt at mocking the excellent PS4. Excellent, in fact, by the way the MS crumbled like a house of cheap cards by folding in on their plan in gaming.
What kind of company has so little confidence in their product/features that they remove them and copy their competitor? It's pretty spineless imo and they get not respect from me for it.
Yeah it does, it's called physically passing the game.Does PS4 got a Family-Plan? Because they are apparently the pro-consumer company.
So what exactly are people clinging to with Family Sharing?
Do we know how it works? The restrictions, and etc? For example Sony allowed digital sharing (do they still now?), is it better than that?