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Media Create Sales: Week 27, 2013 (Jul 01 - Jul 07)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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That... would actually make a lot of sense.
Glass Rebel
Member
I don't see such a late tie-in affecting sales of the game that much, even less with Pokémon coming up. L5 fucked up by not getting the anime out earlier.
Rolex edition as suggested by someone on GAF has a nice ring to it.
crisdecuba
Member
When are Media Create results for the prior week generally made available the following week?
Wednesday
airmangataosenai
Member
If it was selling like that we probably would've heard something about sell-outs and stock issues by now.
No. Wii U got channel stuffed. It will not (never?) have stock issues outside of maybe a few stores. 50K would not cause stock issues.
airmangataosenai
Member
I'm mainly talking about the new model.
This is certainly the biggest week for Wiiu since his release, but i don't think the situation after this will be like the weeks before, just cause there's actually new games to be released that people may want to play. Nintendo is already starting to market Lego and you can even find some notes about it on sites and blogs and next month they will definitely try to hype W101.
I mean, those games are new and probably are not going to move lots of units, but at least it's a better situation than before when there was nothing at all. Nintendo should take that chance to push the market more agressively, since there will be at least one nintendo game per month in Japan. At worst, they could sustain some 10k sales.
Also, i think Lego will get some good sales. Perhaps 50 to 70k. Looks to be a very good looking game and very different. If Nintendo market it well, it could be a little sucess, just like they did with Goldeneye and Epic Mickey on the Wii.
I mean, those games are new and probably are not going to move lots of units, but at least it's a better situation than before when there was nothing at all. Nintendo should take that chance to push the market more agressively, since there will be at least one nintendo game per month in Japan. At worst, they could sustain some 10k sales.
Also, i think Lego will get some good sales. Perhaps 50 to 70k. Looks to be a very good looking game and very different. If Nintendo market it well, it could be a little sucess, just like they did with Goldeneye and Epic Mickey on the Wii.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
So based on this how long do you think until Pikmin 3 becomes the third best-selling title on Wii U (assuming it beats 300k on Wii U before another title does so).
I'd like to think if Wii U manages to reach the million units milestone this week it'll have had a great week. The real question is if it can follow up on that. A price drop in Japan might have been perfectly timed if there was any guarantee of Pikmin 3 lighting the charts on fire.
Bruno MB
Member
Assuming that you're talking about Japan, the third best-selling Wii U title is way below 300.000 units. Monster Hunter 3G HD must have sold around 215.000 units so Pikmin 3 shouldn't have trouble outselling that title. Maybe it will need 1 or 2 months.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Hm, I was talking about worldwide actually. Any idea as to what's the third best-selling title at the moment for the Wii U Worldwide and how many copies it's sold?
shinra-bansho
Member
I think it's unlikely the second best selling title on the Wii U has reached 300K WW, let alone the third best selling. If it has, likely not by much.
Lego City is apparently the best selling in the US at 150K. Only a few other titles have topped 100K there.
It's conceivable though that the second best selling title WW is actually MonHun - based on BrunoMB's post above. If it has done 200 something thousand in Japan, then it may have done enough to reach 300K WW.
Lego City is apparently the best selling in the US at 150K. Only a few other titles have topped 100K there.
It's conceivable though that the second best selling title WW is actually MonHun - based on BrunoMB's post above. If it has done 200 something thousand in Japan, then it may have done enough to reach 300K WW.
MasterSheen
Member
In Japan? 330k and 530k respectively. I'm pretty sure MH is the third best seller on Wii U worldwide.
Aquamarine
Member
Code:
NSMB Sellthrough: 525,968 as of June 23rd, 2013
Nintendo Land Sellthrough: 330,649 as of June 9th, 2013I believe Japanese Wii U Famitsu sales rankings are as follows:
Code:
1. NSMB U
2. Nintendo Land
3. MH3U
...with Dragon Quest X and Game and Wario trailing behind.It dropped off the charts early, but I believe Zombi U barely made a splash in Japan.
On the subject of Lego City. Do we have a firm idea of what exactly it is that prevents Western games from succeeding in Japan? Accessibility, aesthetics, and marketing are the things I've heard of.
The combat in the Lego games seems simple enough and the aesthetic is colourful. Maybe the 3DS game could pull off half-decent numbers with good marketing. Maybe the open-world gameplay should be downplayed.
Actually, is the 3DS version even being released over there?
Wait, haven't NSMBU and Nintendo Land both hit 300K in Japan itself?
The combat in the Lego games seems simple enough and the aesthetic is colourful. Maybe the 3DS game could pull off half-decent numbers with good marketing. Maybe the open-world gameplay should be downplayed.
Actually, is the 3DS version even being released over there?
Wait, haven't NSMBU and Nintendo Land both hit 300K in Japan itself?
shinra-bansho
Member
I wasn't including Nintendo Land as it's a pack-in for a lot/most of the consoles.
NSMBU should be around 1.7M or so WW sell-through off the top of my head and just guestimating Europe.
In terms of standalones, I imagine the only games potentially reaching 300K other than NSMBU is Monster Hunter, which did well in Japan and okay in the US.
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General question, where does Chris normally get retailer impressions from? Does anybody have access to it. I'm, like everyone else in the thread, quite curious at Pikmin performance.
shinra-bansho
Member
Ah, okay. No retailer impressions of Pikmin 3 on there though, unless crappy google translate is steering me wrong. I guess we'll know in a couple of days anyway.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
As far as I know, the only Western games that do well are GTA, COD and Naughty Dog games. Ratchet and Clank used to do well.
michaelius
Banned
Hmm that would be putting Pikmin 3 at over 20% tie ratio. It's possible but the Wii rereleases weren't too hot on much higher userbase
Sammy Samusu
Member
If that blog gets too popular they will probably be forced to stop posting, so I don't, I'd remove the link.
slaughterking
Member
If ND games are considered good sellers the list of good selling western games is much longer. Skyrim, Fallout, Red Dead Redemption, Assassins Creed, Battlefield and others had similarly solid results.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Ok by ND game sis incorrect. Uncharted 3 and TLoU. Skyrim and BF did similar if not better numbers so your right on those ones.
ambientmystic
Member
Tomorrow's gonna be one of the Wii U's days of reckoning lol.
Will the IwataWiiUrisefromthecoffin.gif be posted in the Media Create thread?
Will it surpass 40k hardware sales?
Stay tuned.
Will the IwataWiiUrisefromthecoffin.gif be posted in the Media Create thread?
Will it surpass 40k hardware sales?
Stay tuned.
Because if it doesn't Nintendos master plan is truly over. Even Vita rose to 40k with miku and persona so Wii u has to do around the same to even hint at Nintendo's plan of gradual releases from July till the end of the year to work.
Vita rose to 40K and then came back crashing down.
Setting some arbitrary value that it has to pass will not matter in the long term. It's obvious from the get go the Wii U will come back crashing down.
Software people are interested in will cause hardware to rise. The Earth spins, rain falls, and the sun comes up in the morning, news at 11.
EDIT: Just read my post and seen that I come off as rude, sorry about that, didn't mean to sound rude. Just trying to be frank.
Some data (probably Famitsu?) from Sinobi on Wii U software in Japan
http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-11568381851.html
2013年7月時点のWii Uソフトの累計販売本数トップ3は以下の通り。
1位「NewスーパーマリオブラザーズU」52万5968本
2位「Nintendo Land」33万649本
3位「モンスターハンター3G HD Ver.」19万5213本
Rough translation:
Top 3 Wii U software upto 2013 July (the blog was updated on 7th July)
1. New Super Mario Bro U - 525,968
2. Nintendo Land - 330,649
3. Monster Hunter Tri G HD Ver - 195,213
No mention if any digital version nor bundle version counted
http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-11568381851.html
2013年7月時点のWii Uソフトの累計販売本数トップ3は以下の通り。
1位「NewスーパーマリオブラザーズU」52万5968本
2位「Nintendo Land」33万649本
3位「モンスターハンター3G HD Ver.」19万5213本
Rough translation:
Top 3 Wii U software upto 2013 July (the blog was updated on 7th July)
1. New Super Mario Bro U - 525,968
2. Nintendo Land - 330,649
3. Monster Hunter Tri G HD Ver - 195,213
No mention if any digital version nor bundle version counted
Snowden's Secret
Banned
I'd say most people equate poor Wii U sales to the extreme post launch drought it experienced (launch sales were good enough).
If a good, polished first party game from a beloved established franchise brings a significant boost (even temporary) then that backs up the notion that the issue is (primarily) about games.
If even a good, polished first party game from a beloved established franchise has almost no effect on sales, then the problem is not games.
ambientmystic
Member
Understood where you're coming from. I just don't get why you're here in the sales thread of all places if the numbers don't interest you at all lol.
I agree. mpl90 should edit his post.
I see it as a given that the Wii U will a large rise. They have two interesting titles (Pikmin 3 and NSLU) and finally got a premium white SKU, so those holding out for a white premium will get one (most likely minority here).
You're thinking short term, I'm thinking long-term. I was saying that in terms of long-term and that the numbers won't be interesting in the grand scheme of things.
Aquamarine
Member
That looks like Famitsu software sales for the Top 3-ranked Nintendo Wii U titles the last time they were in the Top 30.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I agree, though there is the problem that Pikmin is not actually a big franchise. The GameCube games did well, but it's nine years since the last Pikmin game released. Considering it's more of a niche game, one can only hope that players will appreciate it for its charme and its quality.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
You are right, that probably describes it better. Still, I'm a bit worried due to the long period of time that has passed since the second game came out.
Man, Pikmin 2 Wii charted a few days ago. There's still genuine interest in the series, I'm sure.
It is.You can find it easily on the net
Also at hachima, there was a news anout Pikmin moving some hardware for wiiu
http://mantan-web.jp/2013/07/16/20130716dog00m200030000c.html
The Horror the horror
Banned
Is it fair to say that Pikmin 3 showcases a degree of effort, passion, and brilliance that seems missing from every game Nintendo has released or has revealed for the Wii U thus far (with the exception of X)?
I guess excitement comes from seeing how well Pikmin can sell, and how well the Wii U can sell when it's actually given a game with at least some selling potential.
It'll be intresting to see how things transition from that to TW101, Wind Waker HD, DK and 3D World. Also interested in Sonic Lost World. Does Sonic usually do well in Japan?
It'll be intresting to see how things transition from that to TW101, Wind Waker HD, DK and 3D World. Also interested in Sonic Lost World. Does Sonic usually do well in Japan?
Hero of Legend
Member
Sonic sells horriblly in JP for whatever reason, even the Wii games did like 5k FW.
Ouch lol. That's surprising. I'd imagine the franchise used to preform well until a certain point in time? After DreamCast I'd imagine?
well it is the first game worth owning for the console
NSMBU and Nintendo Land for me but I'm probably in the minority.