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FlyFaster

Member
Kizer said:
I agree with you
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I know.

the point is that capcom is trying make it so you can't just vortex, even tho it's the best option in most cases. They want to tone it down. I'm just arguing for consistency here. If one thing can be called braindead, then other similar things must be, at the very least, somewhat braindead too.
 
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QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
Lost Fragment said:
Wait, how are autocorrect DPs brainless?
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They didn't play P4A yet so they think they are.

But in seriousness just because you DP the right way doesn't mean you are going to hit still, most proper vortex shit is pretty damn DP safe and even if they got rid of vortexes this wont fix the way DPs work unless they give them bigger hitboxes/remove safe jumps and ummm yeah no
 
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Ghazi

Member
You may pay $.99 at character select screen to unlock C. Viper with infinite meter, Ultras, and a full screen unblockable Ultra; that's only for one round, $2 for the next.
 
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alstein

Member
QisTopTier said:
They didn't play P4A yet so they think they are.

But in seriousness just because you DP the right way doesn't mean you are going to hit still, most proper vortex shit is pretty damn DP safe and even if they got rid of vortexes this wont fix the way DPs work unless they give them bigger hitboxes/remove safe jumps and ummm yeah no
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I'd be all for bigger hitboxes on EX DP's, provided reversals on wakeup aren't FADC-able.
 
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FlyFaster

Member
mesmerMAN said:
auto-correct isnt just for dps.

My e.honda/blanka are thankful for that ish :s *I love auto correct command grabs :D*
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it's not just about DPs, auto correct anything is stupid imo. The player should have to pick a side, inputting a motion that covers both sides is so lazy and braindead. Why think? Just do something that covers both.

I thought the idea was to make the game more intelligent and more skill based? If that's the case, auto-correct everything needs to go. The player should have to choose a side or not attempt a reversal. Letting the game pick the best thing for you is about as scrubtastic as it gets.
 
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jaxword

Member
DJ Ghazi said:
You may pay $.99 at character select screen to unlock C. Viper with infinite meter, Ultras, and a full screen unblockable Ultra; that's only for one round, $2 for the next.
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Pay 99 cents to fill up your super meter in battle.

Pay $5 to use a super attack.
 
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Lost Fragment

Obsessed with 4chan
I don't play any characters who have anything worth autocorrecting, but aren't autocorrects pretty risky if you're not sure it's going to hit? The application of an autocorrect isn't the same as an option select. It's to antiair angles that you wouldn't normally be able to antiair.
 
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FlyFaster

Member
Lost Fragment said:
I don't play any characters who have anything worth autocorrecting, but aren't autocorrects pretty risky if you're not sure it's going to hit? The application of an autocorrect isn't the same as an option select. It's to antiair angles that you wouldn't normally be able to antiair.
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ya, they can backfire for sure. Just look at guile, his auto correct flash kicks mostly end up fucking him over then ever helping him.

auto-correct moves aren't the end of the world, but I personally don't like them. Seen and been on the receiving end of too many auto-correct moves that I just hate the concept. I mean, for christs sake, even Ultras can auto correct.

oh no, my only choice is safe jump (if i can) after I knock you down because any cross up attempt will just be auto-corrected by the opposing player.


also,

auto guard = lame, players don't like it
auto tech throw = lame, players don't like it
yet
auto correct = awesome, players love it

something is wrong with that imo.
 
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Imm0rt4l

Member
FlyFaster said:
ya, they can backfire for sure. Just look at guile, his auto correct flash kicks mostly end up fucking him over then ever helping him.

auto-correct moves aren't the end of the world, but I personally don't like them. Seen and been on the receiving end of too many auto-correct moves that I just hate the concept. I mean, for christs sake, even Ultras can auto correct.

oh no, my only choice is safe jump (if i can) after I knock you down because any cross up attempt will just be auto-corrected by the opposing player.


also,

auto guard = lame, players don't like it
auto tech throw = lame, players don't like it
yet
auto correct = awesome, players love it

something is wrong with that imo.
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Those aren't even comparable. The alternative is inputting dp and nothing coming out because the inputs were screwed up from a crossup.
 
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FlyFaster

Member
Imm0rt4l said:
Those aren't even comparable. The alternative is inputting dp and nothing coming out because the inputs were screwed up from a crossup.
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ok, i'll give you that lol. I wanted to see how far I could push the argument.



but the bold above I do like. Yes, if you input the command wrong, the game shouldn't magically make the move still work, it shouldn't come out at all imo.
 
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CadetMahoney

Member
Professor Beef said:
Isn't the point of doing a cross-up the fact that the opponent CAN'T see them coming though?
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Just because something is a crossup doesnt make it an unobservable guess. Experience enough of them and you can see and when a jump is going to crossup.

Gokurakumaru said:
Surely any situation where the player is forced to guess is a strike against the game, not a positive.
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The question is. . . is a cross up by default an unobservable blocking guess for the person defending?
 
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Gokurakumaru

Banned
CadetMahoney said:
pretty much, if you see a crossup coming you do a reverse dp, end of story. The game auto-correcting your mistaken guess is. . .
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Surely any situation where the player is forced to guess is a strike against the game, not a positive. I'm curious why you think cross ups and especially cross ups that lead to resets being a guessing game is a good thing. This can't even be dressed up as a "mind game."
 
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Lost Fragment

Obsessed with 4chan
I think you guys are hung up on the "auto" in "autocorrect" and think that autocorrects do something that they don't do. If they don't cross up, you don't want to try an autocorrect DP.
 
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Wynnebeck

Banned
Gokurakumaru said:
Surely any situation where the player is forced to guess is a strike against the game, not a positive. I'm curious why you think cross ups and especially cross ups that lead to resets being a guessing game is a good thing. This can't even be dressed up as a "mind game."
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You're kidding right? If you put your opponent in the position where they have to guess off of a mix-up or reset, etc. to score the hit or knockdown, the onus is on your opponent to not be put in that situation in the first place. Hell, even tricking your opponent into thinking it's a cross-up and be ambiguous is a strategy as well. I understand there's some braindead shit that needs to go away (like unblockables and OS) but a cross-up is not one of them.
 
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MegalonJJ

Banned
They should change Blanka's ultra 2 input command into a double quarter circle forward/back motion. It would be much more useful for the anti-air version.
 
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